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Sweden welcomes climate 'compromise'

TT/Joel Linde · 11 Dec 2011, 15:30

Published: 11 Dec 2011 15:30 GMT+01:00

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"Just wonderful, I never dared to hope for this," Ek told the Svenska Dagbladet daily.

"It was complicated to get all 194 countries onboard this plan."

However, despite Ek's response to the deal and the fact that India, China and the US have agreed on the new terms, there is still skepticism as to whether it is good enough.

Svante Axelsson at the Swedish Society for Nature Conservation (Naturskyddsföreningen) feels the new terms are a victory for the climate negotiations, although not for the climate itself.

He argues there's still a lack of concrete decisions to stop global warming, adding that the gain from this conference is foremost that they found new ways to cooperate, which can result to valuable content.

And just as expected, the agreements didn't come without a fight.

The European Union initially presented the new terms, which caused strong objections among the US, Indian and Chinese representatives. Also Brazil and South Africa were strongly opposed to the suggestions.

"This shows that a united EU can accomplish results. It means so incredibly much," Ek told news agency TT.

On Sunday morning, four platforms for the continuous climate efforts were decided upon, also including an extension of the Kyoto protocol.

Ek admitted there were both pros and cons with the the conference, but the overall result, she said, was satisfying. She further explained a committee will now be formed to develop new suggestions for climate agreements in 2015, which shall take full effect by 2020.

But to wait eight years for things to happen is far to slow, Åsa Romson with the Green Party commented on Sunday.

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"The decisions in Durban are small steps in the right direction, but at the same time completely insufficient to reach the two degree target. For that to be possible, the global emissions have to be reduced sooner than 2020," Romson said.

Before the long night session was over, the representatives of India and China accused the EU for using threats to get their will through. However, later that night they both accepted the new terms.

"We're doing this in the spirit of flexibility," said the Indian negotiator Jayanthi Natarajan.

The last decision was made at 5am on Sunday morning after heated debates and a sleepless nigh in Durban, South Africa.

TT/Joel Linde (news@thelocal.se)

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22:12 December 11, 2011 by RobinHood
Please do not tell Lena that half the signatories Do not actually intend to abide by the treaty. International respect for the EU is at such a low ebb, countries just tell poor Lena what she wants to hear, and then do their own thing.

The Indian representative blatantly said so. "flexibility" indeed! It will break poor Lenas heart.
00:44 December 12, 2011 by GLO
Global Warming is a Farce....
05:18 December 12, 2011 by Larry Thrash
What a massive fraud, scam, extortion racket this religion of "climate change" has become. These people are just evil.
07:49 December 12, 2011 by Lavaux
AGW Durban Compromise: Commit economic suicide today or eight years from today.

Seriously, the US Senate will never ratify Kyoto II just as it never ratified Kyoto I. See, Americans are paying attention and won't allow their directly elected political elites to bargain away their liberty to the UN. Too bad the same can't be said for Europeans.
09:53 December 12, 2011 by Liquidmonkey
@ #2 and #3.

care to back up your comments rather than just trolling?

why is it a farce?

why are these people evil?

had no idea that protecting the earths future was an evil farce.

i guess you live on a different planet?
10:04 December 12, 2011 by Eagle63
Global warming is no farce,


eventually a warmer planet will be much better than the icy world we live in today...
10:55 December 12, 2011 by eppie

Eventually maybe yes....but the road to get there will be horrible.

I especially think India, China and the US are playing dangerous games here....those morons have no idea how to build good dikes protecting them from the water, and more than half of them are living very close to the oceans.
11:11 December 12, 2011 by RobinHood

"Why is it a farce?"

1. Arrange month long international conference in warm exotic place

2. create massive carbon footprint assembling thousands of delegates

3. delegates stay in top class hotels and dine at out public expense for a month

4. do nothing until last possible moment, and then stay up until 04.00 on last day

5. reach a vague, wishy washy agreement that most countries will ignore anyway

6. announce it as yet another triumphant treaty that will save the world

7. repeat procedure every two years, ad infinitum

1 to 7 = "farce". Now you tell me why it is not a farce.
11:43 December 12, 2011 by eppie

please reread the comments.

Liquidmonkey reacted on the statement 'global warming is a farce' made by GLO (#2).

You are giving reasons why this conference is a farce.

They are two different things. It seems that you like to discuss with yourself a lot.
11:45 December 12, 2011 by Liquidmonkey
@ #8

first off, the OP called global warming a farce and i was asking about that.

but, your right, these so-called global summits are a farce. the top polluters are unwilling to contribute any money to fix a problem they are responsible for creating in the first place.

if stronger laws were in place that held industries accountable for their environmental impact we probably wouldn't need these summits.

the fact that the US is unwilling to commit, AGAIN, is a total disappointment, AGAIN.
08:25 December 15, 2011 by Lavaux
@ eppie

Global warming is a farce because, among many other things:

1. Science is a process that pits skepticism against consensus, such that relying on consensus to oppress skeptics is not science but rather politics, ergo, global warming is not science but rather politics.

2. Allowing politicians to control carbon energy extraction and use would put them in control of a necessary input to nearly all economic activity, thereby putting them in control of nearly all economic activity; politicians can't be trusted with this kind of power (see the histories of the "Soviet Union" and "East Germany").

3. No scientist guarantees that reducing carbon dioxide emissions to pre-industrial levels will result in the pre-industrial climate, and for good reason: Nature is a dynamic system.

4. Why should man devote his scarce resources and energies to reestablishing the pre-industrial climate, or for that matter some static climate? Which climate is ideal, what makes it so, and why is certain penury and slavery to the state preferable to climate change?

5. Farcical philosophy produces farcical politics; if man is not part of nature, then what is he, and why should he suffer to meet obligations to nature that he imposes on himself arbitrarily and without consideration or return? In Switzerland, plants have constitutional rights. Who gave them such rights, and who will be offended if they're withdrawn?

This list of objections to AGW fanaticism is cursory, but I've never encountered an environmentalist willing to tackle even two of its items, particularly the last one. Any of you Local posters willing to try?
16:53 December 20, 2011 by Britt-Marie7
It is actually not called "Global Warming" anymore, I guess they forgot! They changed it to "Climate Change" when they discovered that the warming did not stick. It is all a BIG moneymaker, so the longer they can keep this up, the longer some people will make a lot of money on this.

Wonder where Greenland got it's name from? Could it be that there were no ice there? Naw, it couldn't, could it? I also heard that Sweden was once under Ice.!

This is the way it is, temperatures comes and goes. Get used to it!
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