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Star Wars in Swedish causes fan outrage

The Local/og · 8 Feb 2012, 16:44

Published: 08 Feb 2012 16:44 GMT+01:00

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“It fills me with disgust,” wrote daily newspaper Aftonbladet’s Magnus Edlund.

“There are some things you know you should instinctively avoid, like jumping off a cliff, or hitting your temple with a hammer,” he wrote.

And so it is, he claimed, with Star Wars in Swedish.

Edlund’s article has called for all fans of the series to boycott the film in an effort to prevent the other films in the Star Wars franchise from losing the appeal that comes with the original English dialogue.

And the readers have responded in full force. A poll on the newspaper showed that 80 percent of voters were ‘disgusted’ with the dubbing.

A slew of Swedish celebrities and entertainers have been called upon to lend their voices, including Anastasios Soulis as Obi-Wan Kenobi, Nick Atkinson as C3P0 and Rakel Wärmländer as Queen Amidala.

Swedish entertainer Andreas Nilsson will be Yoda, and Kim Sulocki, who stars in upcoming Swedish sitcom “The Office,” ("Kontoret") will provide the new voice of Jar Jar Binks.

As the majority of films released in Sweden are subtitled, Edlund has questioned if director George Lucas is just trying to earn more money from the mega franchise, and writes that people have to watch in English to appreciate the film – even if it means reading at the same time.

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“I don’t want to see the 'Star Wars' of my childhood humiliated and abused by stilted Swedish illiterates,” he wrote.

The film opens on February 10th in 130 cinemas around the country.

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Your comments about this article

18:33 February 8, 2012 by Emerentia
Dubbing is for people who cant read, so it's good for films suited for little children.

Even for family films, like Disney films, there is usually an option i Sweden, one can choose to go to cinema with a film thats dubbed, or a non-dubbed with original voices. Once I got it wrong and went to one that was dubbed, and I was so disappointed, it ruined the film totally. But I've also experieced to go to a cinema where a mum right behind me reads the subtitles to her children out loud, That was even more irritating, so I think it's good when one can choose.
18:41 February 8, 2012 by Scepticion
So, where is the Ombudsman for Swedish language to defend this? :-)

Anyway, in many other countries is easily handled. Dubbed during daytime for kids, and English in the evening for adults. Isn't that how it's done here?
19:11 February 8, 2012 by HYBRED
I wonder if any of these Swedish fans that are complaining about the movie in being in Swedish are some of the ones that tell me "if you live in Sweden you should speak Swedish".
19:40 February 8, 2012 by mafketis
Being against dubbing is so ..... provincial.

Do Swedes really dislike listening to their own language that much?

Maybe this is one reason they have so many problems convincing immigrants and other foreign residents that it's worth learning?
19:43 February 8, 2012 by Bones
Over-reacting! It will also show in English at selected cinemas like other "Children's" films. This is just a marketing ploy so parents of young kids know most showings will be dubbed.
20:53 February 8, 2012 by Beavis
Unfortunatly it wont be possible to improve the quality of Phantom Menace by dubbing-Jaja binks will still be in it.Would be horrified to see Sweden make a trend of what the Germans and French do to movies. Overdubbing sucks in any language. I just dont want to watch Kopps with English dubbed over it, it works both ways!
21:06 February 8, 2012 by samson123
sad idiots!
21:58 February 8, 2012 by Bumblebeetuna
I thought the complaint would be about paying full theater price again for the same movie in 3d. I agree that they overreacted about dubbing, english version will be out soon.
22:27 February 8, 2012 by Abe L
Dubbing SW into any language is pure blasphemy.
23:24 February 8, 2012 by Jannik
At first I thougt this was a joke. But apparently not, its all about reaching a wider audience.

As i recall "The phantom menace" was a totallly crappy movie. It was so bad that i struggled to watch it in its entirety. Its far worse than the original 3 movies made in the 70ties and 80ties. Actually i think Lucas destroyed the Star wars franchise by making this abomination.

So it is actually quite hilarious that this piece of thrash is being dubbed. Just when you thought it couldnt get any worse with the retarded Jaja-binks antics, it obviously can.
00:21 February 9, 2012 by Swedishmyth
A lot of the late 80's and 90's Disney stuff was dubbed well, but in modern times you don't dub stuff into Swedish unless it's for toddlers.
02:09 February 9, 2012 by rise
Dubbed movies... imagine to hear Clint Eastwood speak Swedish and with someone else's voice at that! Or for that matter German or French... Laughable!! :D
02:50 February 9, 2012 by Gamla Hälsingebock
What if it were dubbed in Klingon?
07:20 February 9, 2012 by Marc the Texan
I don't think 3D helps.
10:08 February 9, 2012 by jamesblish
Dubbing is fine if it's a movie aimed purely at kids. And I've a hard time seeing how they thought Star Wars would be that kind of movie seeing as the franchise has fans born in the 50's and onwards. But maybe it's the 3D thing, maybe they thought hardcore fans would frown upon 3D anyway, I really don't know. I'm not gonna go see it anyway as I hate the new Star Wars movies.

Dubbing for adults is always wrong though and should never take place. If you're not familiar with the language, use subtitles and don't destroy the original dialogue, it's a form of artistic rape. If you can't handle watching something in a different language then I suggest growing up and/or evolving. Besides, it's nice learning a few new words every once in awhile.
10:17 February 9, 2012 by mrund
A slew of Swedish celebrities and entertainers ... Anastasios Soulis ... Nick Atkinson ... Rakel Wärmländer ... Andreas Nilsson ... Kim Sulocki

These may or may not be good voice actors. But they certainly aren't celebrities of any stature. I've lived in Sweden for decades and I have never heard of a single one of them.

Anyway, The Phantom Menace is a power-trip fantasy movie for little boys, so I don't mind if they dub it.
11:35 February 9, 2012 by robban70226
I'm surprised that they invest into the cost of doing it, for a small country with a dying language, where is the profit?
12:21 February 9, 2012 by jamesblish
The profit usually comes from ticket-buying moviegoers and/or buyers of dvd's. But your aim wasn't to inquire about profits, your point was to point out that swedish is a "dying language". Just thought I'd answer you though.
12:46 February 9, 2012 by sarah02
Search Troopers, collegehumor on youtube :) That is more fun than the real thing!
13:51 February 9, 2012 by Twiceshy
Is it just me who see irony in the fact that we are reading Swedish news, in English, so we don't have to read it in Swedish?

I think to be upset over this we need to do it in Swedish right?

Nu jag tror det här är en dum idé. Sverige är en av de bästa på engelska från att höra Engelska på TV och på film. En stor filmproducent som GL kommer trycka andra att göra detsamma. Eller vad tror du?
23:41 February 9, 2012 by mafketis
"Dubbing for adults is always wrong though and should never take place. If you're not familiar with the language, use subtitles and don't destroy the original dialogue"

But aren't English language remakes of Swedish works (like Wallander, Let me in etc) just a very expensive form of dubbing?

Why would any Swedish speaker want to watch an English translation of a Swedish work and then pretend it's the original? Or are English speakers just too stupid and provincial to be able to enjoy subtitled works?
16:18 February 10, 2012 by uunbeliever
Really? How could dubbing it into Swedish make it any worse?
20:20 February 10, 2012 by BillyB
The film is a pile of junk whatever language

should never have been made
17:22 February 11, 2012 by BritVik
Having seen Westerns with John Wayne speaking in German . . .

There will no doubt be a spate of actors and actresses vying for these speaking parts, and then identifying themselves with the characters henceforth.

Who said Swedes have no humour ? ?
07:43 February 12, 2012 by Dennis Nilsson
When dubbing, you are dumbing down the citizens.

In my shop we sometime have older visitors from countries who are dubbing all movies on cinemas and TV, like France and Germany.

And, usually the only language they could speak, is their own. That's bad, specially when the world get's more international
01:17 February 15, 2012 by jamesblish
mafketis: It's because they're too ignorant to watch something in a different language, with subtitles. So they remake it in Sweden, mispronounced names and all. I don't think any Swede considers that an "original" work. Some may find it oddly flattering though. This also happens with asian movies btw. The Ring was famously remade into english by an american studio. That's just one example, there's hundreds more. This usually only goes for native english audiences as they generally speak only 1 language and are too lazy (I presume) to watch anything not in their own native tongue.
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