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Gun laws around the world

Discuss opinions on various aspects of gun laws

Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 08:08 AM
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Bsmith
post 6.Sep.2019, 01:05 PM
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Interesting that you want to ban guns because of the actions of a few and yet say that we shouldn't judge Islam because of the actions of a few.
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cootje1976
post 6.Sep.2019, 01:29 PM
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 02:36 PM
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 02:41 PM
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Bsmith
post 6.Sep.2019, 04:18 PM
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 6.Sep.2019, 04:49 PM
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The real problem with gun laws in the United States lies with the Politicians they lie and do not enforce Federal Laws at a state level, they use guns as an election prop for their own gain...

If violations were turned over to Federal prosecution, instead of under local law you would see immediate improvement and conviction of bad guys would immensely improve...

Use the Federal laws "on the books" and gun violence will fade away!!!

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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 6.Sep.2019, 05:49 PM) *
The real problem with gun laws in the United States lies with the Politicians they lie and do not enforce Federal Laws at a state level, they use guns as an election prop for ... (show full quote)


I totally agree politicians use guns as an election prop...

It?s insane that 36 states do not require a license or for guns to be registered.

Hence the need for the federal govt to step in and have some massive gun law reform, ey?

Which federal laws... if enforced... would drop gun violence drastically? It will never be gone for good... but it can be drastically reduced.

I would support a national gun registry and banning the sale of guns to the formerly incarcerated, people with a history of mental illness, those convicted or even charged with domestic abuse... can?t think of more right now... but those would be some small steps in a better direction.

Oh and there was a law that expired in 2004 which banned the high capacity magazines and semi autos that look like fully autos... don?t know why that has been removed. Good thing they got rid of bump sticks as bsmith mentioned. Had no clue what that was.

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skogsbo
post 6.Sep.2019, 07:02 PM
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Bump sticks, modified mags etc are all extremely easy to make yourself and no doubt there are umpteen YouTube videos to assist.

The problem is it's too late. There are way too many guns, too much ammo, too many preppers with massive hoards and because of a lack legislation the authorities have absolutely no idea where the guns are.

Look at how the police have to deal with people when they pull them over in a car, every person is treated like a mass shooter.

I just find it odd anyone wants to live in that kind of society.
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Bsmith
post 6.Sep.2019, 08:39 PM
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And I can't conceive of a society where a person cannot even carry pepper spray to defend themselves from possible rapists and thugs.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 6.Sep.2019, 09:52 PM
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Believe me the laws are there, but at the Federal level the politicians holler for federal involvement that is already there, they should instead tell their own State legislators (which is them!!!) to turn cases over to federal prosecutors but if they did that they would have no platform to run on...

It's a damn shame people listen to those whores!!!
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 6.Sep.2019, 09:39 PM) *
And I can't conceive of a society where a person cannot even carry pepper spray to defend themselves from possible rapists and thugs.


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QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 6.Sep.2019, 10:52 PM) *
Believe me the laws are there, but at the Federal level the politicians holler for federal involvement that is already there, they should instead tell their own State legislat ... (show full quote)


I agree it?s a damn shame.... however people power is most effective at the local level.

You are talking about prosecuting at a federal level.... regardless of state or federal jurisdiction.... you are still talking about AFTER the crime has been committed.

Preventative measures are needed. Gun law reform is needed even in your case where the feds need legislation for enforcement on a state level.
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 10:28 PM
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Shit Gamla.
I think I might agree with you...
at federal level prosecution a precedent can be set by which a law is formed....

Is this your thinking?
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skogsbo
post 7.Sep.2019, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 6.Sep.2019, 08:39 PM) *
And I can't conceive of a society where a person cannot even carry pepper spray to defend themselves from possible rapists and thugs.

I guess that's where we differ. If I lived in a country where I felt that need, I'd move.
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Saywhatwhat
post 7.Sep.2019, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (skogsbo @ 7.Sep.2019, 07:32 AM) *
I guess that's where we differ. If I lived in a country where I felt that need, I'd move.


What a way to face up to the problems affecting your community.
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