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Gjeebes you are right

This country is shit

Saywhatwhat
post 5.Sep.2019, 03:17 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sch...e_United_States

School shootings have been happening a long time.... biggest difference now, I would say, is the use of automatic weapons— hence the rise in deaths and injuries.

So many other nations have solved this yet America continues in a downward spiral because the NRA and the us govt go hand in hand.
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Bsmith
post 5.Sep.2019, 03:19 PM
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Does everyone who owns guns go on a shooting spree?

There are millions of law abiding, good citizens that own guns that have not and will never go on a shooting spree. To punish them for the misdeeds of a few is wrong and illogical. You are much more likely to be killed by an automobile than by a gun. By your logic, then all cars should be banned.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 5.Sep.2019, 03:41 PM
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When law abiding citizens are unarmed Democracy will turn to tyranny!!!

Imagine a United States ruled by the Democratic Left!!!

To arms, to arms, the Liberals are coming laugh.gif
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Saywhatwhat
post 5.Sep.2019, 04:14 PM
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Funny that the mass majority of shooters are white male conservatives...

When will that demographic address the problems they are sowing? And then they blame liberals???

Seems like a big lack of accountability.

Conservatives want access to guns... and yet it’s the conservatives who are committing the horrendous acts....

With your logic, there is no end to mass shootings.

What do you own guns for? Hunting? That’s fine... do you need an automatic weapon to hunt?

Is there tyranny in Australia? New Zealand? The uk? Germany? France? What the hell are you talking about?

Taking guns away from citizens has proven not to cause tyranny in contemporary times.


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Bsmith
post 5.Sep.2019, 04:19 PM
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The term "automatic weapon" and "assault rifle" is thrown around a lot by those who have little knowledge of guns. Assault rifle is a made-up term coined by journalists to describe the AR-15. The AR-15 rifle was developed in the 50's and, at one time, was even offered in the Sears Roebuck catalog. AR actually stands for Armalite, not assault rifle. The term automatic weapon refers to a gun that fires a bullet every time the trigger is pulled. This is just about every weapon made with the exception of a bolt action or lever action rifle or a shotgun (which, incidentally was the weapon of choice in the infamous Columbine shooting). Even and old fashioned cowboy revolver fires each time the trigger is pulled.

The problem with this whole gun control rant is that it vilifies the weapon and does not focus on the shooter or the reasons why society produces such people. Guns have not changed significantly in 50 years...what has changed to encourage such behavior? What is the root cause?
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Bsmith
post 5.Sep.2019, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 5.Sep.2019, 03:14 PM) *
Funny that the mass majority of shooters are white male conservatives.... When will that demographic address the problems they are sowing? And then they blame



Actually, and statistically, the crime rate (including shootings) is much, much higher in the black community.
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Saywhatwhat
post 5.Sep.2019, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 5.Sep.2019, 05:19 PM) *
The term "automatic weapon" and "assault rifle" is thrown around a lot by those who have little knowledge of guns. Assault rifle is a made-up term coined ... (show full quote)


I am clearly focusing on the shooter... white male conservatives... the root cause is that that demographic has been becoming increasingly angry and violent because as there is more equality of opportunity for women and minorities... these white men feel threatened and angered that they have to now share space on a more level playing field.


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Saywhatwhat
post 5.Sep.2019, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 5.Sep.2019, 05:22 PM) *
Actually, and statistically, the crime rate (including shootings) is much, much higher in the black community.



I am focusing on school/ mass shootings....

Yes there is a lot of gun violence and crime in black communities... contained within black communities... the black community acknowledges and addresses this issue in many ways over many decades.

What have white male conservatives done to address the problems in their community.... producing mass shooters...
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Saywhatwhat
post 5.Sep.2019, 04:35 PM
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Bsmith—— u sure you know guns????

What you refer to is semi automatic... one shot to one pull... fully automatic is pull once and spray.
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TheExpatEagle
post 5.Sep.2019, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (skogsbo @ 5.Sep.2019, 03:17 PM) *
Has anyone who didn't own guns ever gone on a shooting spree? There is your answer. wink.gif


Has anyone without access to a car ever killed anyone in a road traffic accident? There is your answer, ban cars!
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Saywhatwhat
post 5.Sep.2019, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 5.Sep.2019, 07:24 PM) *
Has anyone without access to a car ever killed anyone in a road traffic accident? There is your answer, ban cars!

Banning cars WILL end the mass shooting crisis in America.

Case closed.


And yes people with access to trucks, motorcycles... also there are incidents of people throwing objects off of overpasses... don’t need a car to kill in a traffic accident.

If there were people driving cars into masses of people maybe they should be banned? Oh wait... a white male conservative did...

So yes let’s ban cars because it will also end the opioid crisis.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 5.Sep.2019, 09:04 PM
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Don't forget to ban high spike heels, because a woman actually killed a man with one of hers!!!

I also call for a ban on yoga mats...a rolled mat is a formidable weapon in the wrong hands...

It's people who kill people...What is wrong with our society???

Criminals will ALWAYS have weapons because laws mean nothing to them!!!

Liberals allowed us to become violent because they condone lax laws and low class behaviour!!!

Just look at the "crap" cities controlled by Democratic Liberals!!!
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Saywhatwhat
post 5.Sep.2019, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 5.Sep.2019, 10:04 PM) *
Liberals allowed us to become violent because they condone lax laws and low class behaviour!!!



Amazing that you justify mass shootings.

That is sickening.
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Bsmith
post 5.Sep.2019, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 5.Sep.2019, 04:35 PM) *
Bsmith—— u sure you know guns???? . What you refer to is semi automatic... one shot to one pull... fully automatic is pull once and spray.



You are correct. Fully automatic weapons are not available to the public. The Las Vegas shooter used a bump stock to make his weapon act as though it was a full automatic but those now have been banned...as they should be. My point is that most weapons are semi-auto...even my little .22 squirrel gun.
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Bsmith
post 5.Sep.2019, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 5.Sep.2019, 06:33 PM) *
Banning cars WILL end the mass shooting crisis in America.



There was a govt. official who stated (jokingly) that if all black males were eliminated from society, violent crime would drop to almost nothing. Factually that is a true statement. He was severely castigated by the press. What he should have said is that by eliminating all males, violent crime would be virtually zero as almost all such crimes are perpetrated by males. Is that a reasonable solution? Of course not. If the general citizenry would have been polled one hundred years ago and asked if an invention that would kill thousands of people a year should be allowed...most likely we would not have automobiles today. Again, not a reasonable solution.

You want to end school shootings tomorrow? Put in place actual security measures. One point of entry through which all personnel and students must pass through with metal detectors and armed security guards. Problem solved immediately.
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