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So tired of living in Sweden!

Tired of the country

Saywhatwhat
post 30.Oct.2019, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 30.Oct.2019, 04:40 PM) *
You complain about the housing situation in Sweden.... You complain about the lack if employment in your native country.... Maybe you should think of a third country with ample housing and jobs...


For the many people that immigrate to America for better opportunities, or other countries as other can attest to, I have never heard them complain about the difficulty of stable adequate housing.

You understand so little. You are a coward just like your ancestors.
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nativeswedishengineer
post 30.Oct.2019, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (pepitoAndalucia @ 30.Oct.2019, 03:56 PM) *
Would you move to the desert when there is no water, food, jobs or anything of value? Or instead would you move to a place in which you have highest chances to find work?.If s ... (show full quote)


You have been given multiple pointers to where there is loads of open space available. But that is not of any use to you, you want to live in the same place as everyone else. Does this clarify things on how a country can have a low population density and have a housing shortage simultaneously?
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pepitoAndalucia
post 30.Oct.2019, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 30.Oct.2019, 05:51 PM) *
For the many people that immigrate to America for better opportunities, or other countries as other can attest to, I have never heard them complain about the difficulty of sta ... (show full quote)


Correct!. Met someone who lived and worked in 7 different countries. She told me that she was shocked to see how difficult it was to find rental in sweden, she complained about the strictness of the short term rental contracts and how it was almost impossible for her to find a job with English only. She had been in other countries, managed to secure rental and found jobs without having to speak the local language in the other countries she lived while in sweden she struggled.

What is disappointing and deceptive about sweden is how they portrayed themselves to the international media as open, tolerant and a country of opportunities but then in the real world securing a rental for more than 6 months is almost impossible and finding a job without swedish is only possible if you have a connection or get a job at a very international company.

The thing is people should be aware about what the rental market is like in sweden and the crude reality of finding a job without speaking swedish which means a no go.

I lived in another country in which English was second language and I found a job in 1 month. Never had the problems I had in sweden.
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TheExpatEagle
post 30.Oct.2019, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (pepitoAndalucia @ 30.Oct.2019, 01:08 PM) *
Here in sweden they are incredibly strict and they make excuses with their language. Sweden is almost bilingual so English is second language but despite it, it's almost i ... (show full quote)


How unusual... Swedish companies want employees to be able to speak some Swedish. They must be really racist...

Why the hell should Swedes bend over backwards to employ someone who does not speak any Swedish? This is Sweden. Get with the program.


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gsurya
post 30.Oct.2019, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 30.Oct.2019, 07:23 PM) *
How unusual... Swedish companies want employees to be able to speak some Swedish. They must be really racist...Why the hell should Swedes bend over backwards to employ someone ... (show full quote)


Completely agree. At least in Sweden, most locals speak some English, unlike in Germany, France or Italy.

Immigrants into Sweden, especially those entering the workforce, must make an effort to learn Swedish (though I myself havent, yet) blink.gif
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 30.Oct.2019, 08:31 PM
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Amazing that so many complain about the life they made for themselves, yet they never try to move someplace where they can improve their conditions and be happy...

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pepitoAndalucia
post 31.Oct.2019, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 30.Oct.2019, 08:23 PM) *
How unusual... Swedish companies want employees to be able to speak some Swedish. They must be really racist...Why the hell should Swedes bend over backwards to employ someone ... (show full quote)


In other countries you can find jobs with English alone. In sweden they constantly brag about their perfect English but then they keep people who don't speak swedish out even though in practice you don't need swedish in many jobs.

I was in another EU country and managed to find jobs without having to speak their local language. English was enough.

In sweden they know their language is not appealing and they also know many move in because they heard about swedes are bilingual. I was told in Spain that swedes don't need foreigners to speak swedish in order to find a job which later when I moved in I discovered it was a lie like most of the Pr about sweden.
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ersel
post 31.Oct.2019, 03:41 AM
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QUOTE (pepitoAndalucia @ 29.Oct.2019, 10:34 PM) *
Do you have the link to the interview? I feel the same about the "sect" thing. How everybody gives me similar answers, how women act in similar ways, their nonverbal ... (show full quote)


Starting from the part 2:

”2. ALLA ÄR OLIKA
Det är en sekt, och den sekten stannar kvar hela tiden även om det finns bättre spelare där ute.”

https://www.expressen.se/sport/qs/intervju-zlatan-/

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ersel
post 31.Oct.2019, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 30.Oct.2019, 08:31 PM) *
Amazing that so many complain about the life they made for themselves, yet they never try to move someplace where they can improve their conditions and be happy...


Actually, not true on several accounts.

First of all, the system in the country systematically prevents people from improving their conditions here so that they can create conditions to move abroad and be employable. It is done systematically, people are put in debt, not given jobs, discriminated against both in housing market, and more importantly (even though these two things are intertwined) in job market. Both of these are well known facts, well covered throughout the years by the mainstream swedish media, and well documented beyond any doubt. There is also a firm statistics on this, published throughout the years, in Sweden. Inlåsningseffekt - "the lock up effect", is well known term used in this context, to describe how people are kept outside everything and living month to month in hope of a breakthrough, that never happens.

Second of all, on quora there was one thread that I remember, where one woman (foreigner) clearly stated that she knew people who lived for some time in Sweden and lost the will to live, literally.

They have eventually moved abroad and regained their lives (literally), never to return back.

It is, hence, not true what you say, some people actually move out of the country, after arriving as the immigrants, and even while having relatively highly payed, skilled jobs, and they never return. I have met several of them, not a small number. They have moved to all over EU, other scandinavian countries and elsewhere in the world, not returning here, ever.

So Gamla, as usual, you are not only ignorant, shallow and downright bigoted in repeating the same old rant you do - every few pages, but you base your claims on outright inaccuracies and lies.
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Gjeebes
post 31.Oct.2019, 04:21 AM
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"Amazing that so many complain about the life they made for themselves, yet they never try to move someplace where they can improve their conditions and be happy..."

Wrong again retard. The only amazing thing is how you continuously share your "thoughts" (yes, being generous here) about topics you don't comprehend and otherwise know nothing about first hand. You essentially have a continuous tantrum about a book you've never read, or a movie you've never watched.

And what's even more amazing, about you, Gamla, you idiot-stick, is how you constantly yourself complain, about your perceived notion of all the complaints here.

Have you ever considered your generous take on Meatballia, doesn't match with what is being presented here, because you yourself have never lived there?

Of course you haven't due to your overwhelming retardation and cognitive decline, which I am guessing is something you have had to struggle with all your pitiful life.

"They have eventually moved abroad and regained their lives (literally), never to return back."

BINGO!
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pepitoAndalucia
post 31.Oct.2019, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (ersel @ 31.Oct.2019, 04:56 AM) *
Actually, not true on several accounts.First of all, the system in the country systematically prevents people from improving their conditions here so that they can create cond ... (show full quote)



Do you have that quora post?.
Another things I have noticed is how swedish media and even arbetsförmedlingen says that people who cannot find jobs in sweden are most likely poorly educated. That's an insult to those who have an education and can't even work in a warehouse. The swedish view is classicism.


QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 31.Oct.2019, 05:21 AM) *
"Amazing that so many complain about the life they made for themselves, yet they never try to move someplace where they can improve their conditions and be happy..." ... (show full quote)



Good to see you are sane in this bubble called sweden.
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TheExpatEagle
post 31.Oct.2019, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (pepitoAndalucia @ 31.Oct.2019, 01:34 AM) *
In other countries you can find jobs with English alone. In sweden they constantly brag about their perfect English but then they keep people who don't speak swedish out e ... (show full quote)


Swedish is not appealing? You are an idiot.
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ersel
post 31.Oct.2019, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 31.Oct.2019, 07:30 PM) *
Swedish is not appealing? You are an idiot.



You have just proclaimed a good part of native swedes (who say the same as @pepito) to be idiots, but keep on.
Your constant displays of being out of touch with the reality are just amusing, as sad as they are.

In what way the language spoken by a relative small part of earth's human population is (by the definition) appealing, apart from by it's scarcity ? Are you able to think (logically) at all ?
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pepitoAndalucia
post 31.Oct.2019, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 31.Oct.2019, 08:30 PM) *
Swedish is not appealing? You are an idiot.


You are...

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ersel
post 31.Oct.2019, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (nativeswedishengineer @ 30.Oct.2019, 05:46 PM) *
You have been given multiple pointers to where there is loads of open space available. But that is not of any use to you, you want to live in the same place as everyone else.


Yes, and that has been explained previously in one other post.
The reason he wants to live in the same place as everyone else is the opportunities, and that he is, as european, used to the place with some life in it, as opposed to desolate, empty places with no life in them, no opportunities for job or social life (whatever that is in Sweden).
But you, as well as some of you "natives" here at the forum, who react at anything even remotely negative mentioned like someone is removing the healthy tooth out of their jaw, cannot see any of the side of reality that does not suit you skewed national(istic) feelings, or your thesis, shame on reality when it does not suit your thesis or desires.

QUOTE (nativeswedishengineer @ 30.Oct.2019, 05:46 PM) *
Does this clarify things on how a country can have a low population density and have a housing shortage simultaneously?


Housing shortage is a product of the desire to make the profit out of on of the humans most basic needs - a place to live.
This can be solved, but it is not, and that is done on the purpose. Not all countries are like that, and you might start to ask yourself why, or how come.
For the prices and rents existing in the country vs. what it has to offer in terms of life, socialising, accessibility to job, stores, etc. , all in all it does not make for a very attractive proposition, many people have remarked exactly that.
Yet, you and some of you here cherry-pick and twist "the arguments" however it suits your (completely skewed and incomplete) views the best.
It is even beyond ridiculous.

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