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My experience "trying" to move to Sweden

Please god, just end me now

Svedallas
post 7.Jun.2018, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 7.Jun.2018, 08:39 PM) *
In defense of svedallas, don't know why really, they have been a much more supportive and level headed presence in this forum as of lateThey came to sweden iN a different ... (show full quote)


As of today SD is the 2nd most popular party. It is no surprise.

Besides our political problems, and social structure at its brink. I would never leave this country, even if someone would pay me to. When you have family and friends, why would one leave?

I have seen friends who tried to move, and they always move back home.
This is because, Sweden is actually good at many things. But in the past decade, it has been pretty shit. There is no denying that.

The immigration problem is a big part of it. When people have no chance of a job, they are likely to be lured into crime, and that is where sweden is being insanely naive...
More details on that you can see Gjeebees posts, which do shed some truth to the failing structure.

But still, would rather be here, than any other country in the world.
I mean a borderline porn star was able to get a woman released in prison in the US.
Embarrasing.
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Svedallas
post 7.Jun.2018, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 7.Jun.2018, 08:39 PM) *
In defense of svedallas, don't know why really, they have been a much more supportive and level headed presence in this forum as of lateThey came to sweden iN a different ... (show full quote)


It must be the great weather lately.
Negative trolls like wallace spit hate to forums, when it is unnecessary.

The forums used to be great for fruitful debate, but past few years, it is just immigration and visa questions, and frustrated trolls.

I do welcome good debates. But pure hate on a constant gets irritating and boring.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 7.Jun.2018, 09:33 PM
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Amen...
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wallace1837
post 7.Jun.2018, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 7.Jun.2018, 10:11 PM) *
I do welcome good debates. But pure hate on a constant gets irritating and boring.

Still confused between information and feelings.
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pepitoAndalucia
post 7.Jun.2018, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (cheeseburger @ 7.Jun.2018, 11:56 AM) *
Hello again.Does the people on this thread think that going to UK would it be more sensible and "easier"??Thank you for your help by the way!!By the way, i a ... (show full quote)


Hi,

I tried to send you a PM but for some reason it is not working.

Piece of advice. If you have savings and you are planing to move to a country to have a new life or find new opportunities. Please, DO NOT move to sweden.

Go to the UK. Specially if you are fluent in English. There, there is a way more open mindset but not only that, more fair opportunities where your education won't be downgraded or make excuses to say you need to go back to school. Seriously, swedes have no problem in saying your education is worthless, I have NEVER seen anything like that.

Also there is more job flexibility in the UK. In sweden hiring someone is expensive and risky so that is a double sword because in sweden employers are very conservative and don't want to take risks. Here unless you have some special skills that they need, chances are you will end up having to downgrade your ambitions and take jobs that are below your skills.

Do not waste your savings in moving to sweden, please. Housing is impossible and full of barriers. People queue just to find stable long term rentals. Second hand are expensive and meant for short term stay. They never speak about it anywhere... Have you noticed?. not a single word in english and the few articles explain the problem in a way where you cannot see the big picture of how bad the situation is for new comers. They will take your money and burn you out.

You will read fancy articles saying that sweden is a paradise full of opportunities but I can guarantee you, you will never find such a hard country to establish and find housing and work other but sweden. The whole system is designed to make your life difficult, housing, and work is full of impediments. Despite swedes speak fluent english, it is almost impossible to find a job just with english unless you go for the few international companies and these companies rely more on connections and have tons of applications so you will not be the only one competing for these jobs.

Comparing the UK with sweden is pointless. Because british are way more open and flexible to accept people from other countries and their record shows that, consistently.

Comparing Spain and sweden and despite the terrible situation in Spain regarding employment, low salaries and lack of job opportunities. I must say moving to Spain, finding apartment and a low end job is a million times easier for a foreigner than in sweden.

When I left Spain I thought we were the worst. Now I realize the only worst part about Spain is the massive lack of jobs. Everything else is WAY better and MORE affordable than in sweden. You cannot imagine how overpriced things are in sweden. Including food. Not to mention that if you have a good paying job in Spain, which is difficult, you will have a quality of life that will exceed by far compare to a rich swede who lives in sweden.

Be smart, don't waste your savings in a country designed to make your life difficult from day one. Accept the advise of someone who has been struggling in this country to find even the basic things like housing.

Go the UK, Ireland, Canada...Antartica... Just kidding about antartica... ;-)
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SmokerT69
post 7.Jun.2018, 11:11 PM
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Location: Gävle
Joined: 28.Feb.2016

QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 7.Jun.2018, 10:02 PM) *
Smoker, what has your Swedish partner said about the situation you are now in? Do they understand that Sweden probably isn't the place for your family if it is keeping you ... (show full quote)


We could always move back to Bermuda or the UK, or Canada for that matter. The whole reason we moved here was because my wife wanted our kids to grow up around her family. Her entire family lives within 5mins to 1 hour away. My family on the other hand is spread out all over the world from New Zealand to Canada, to Bermuda, to Spain. It's her mum's first grandchildren as well. The schooling in Bermuda isn't that good unless you put your kids in a private school. But they're all catholic with nuns and everything, lol. I went through that and don't want my kids to go to a religious school.

As for not letting me live... it's really annoying with the immigration and just all around absurdity of the situation. I mean they've even sent me to a refugee center. We can't help it but just laugh about it at this point. For now, I get to spend to a lot of time with my daughter and I'm learning Swedish. I've also been able to catch up on a lot of movies and TV series which I wasn't able to watch during the last 6 years in the army hahaha. Not to mention, I have so much free time that I'm practically a god on my video games. My wife makes more than enough money and worst case scenario I can just go and work a few months in Bermuda. We went back to visit in March and I got two jobs offers during the 3 weeks I was there. We don't have so many restrictions like sweden on overtime. I can easily make 1,200$ a week doing a simple job like driving a fork lift. Which you also don't need licenses for XD
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SmokerT69
post 7.Jun.2018, 11:29 PM
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Location: Gävle
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 7.Jun.2018, 09:09 PM) *
What is missing here and seems to be always missing in these discussions is that Swedes are being judged by cultures that are foreign to Sweden!!!When people move ... (show full quote)


Not sure if this was directed at me... I did not bring my own culture or upbringing lol. In fact I'm a pretty much go with the flow type of guy. I find a lot of things Swedes do strange, and actually really annoying, like taking fika all the god damn time. My wife's family always wants to fika. Can't we just go get lunch? Why do we have to go drink coffee and eat snacks constantly lol. Drives me nuts, but I do it anyway because they all seem to enjoy it.

But again, I'm not bring my "lifestyle" or "culture" and trying to impose it on others. I am simply trying to move here. Which seems to be nearly impossible I might add. Or if this was about Swedes being miserable. It was an actual Swede who told me that. I still can't understand how laughing is considered to be against the social norm. That's something I can expect in Saudi Arabia, not a European nation.

And just to put the shoe on the other foot. A Swede could move to the UK and not have any issues. We're a lot more accepting of other cultures, at least European ones that is. But yea, a Swede living in the UK being anti social, cold and distant wouldn't really bother anyone. And at the same time, we wouldn't have an issue with someone laughing in public. Unless you're in Liverpool, never let your guard down around a scouser...
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 8.Jun.2018, 12:53 AM
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What I am trying to bring out is Swedes are different...not bad, it's just the way they are... comparing them to what you/anybody thinks is wrong as it applies to your culture/behaviour...

Swedes are unique and a lot of people want to be among them, but you can't expect them to change to suit any other culture/behaviour but theirs...

Pacem In Terris...
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Gjeebes
post 8.Jun.2018, 04:18 AM
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"Swedes are unique and a lot of people want to be among them..."

Bahaahahaaaa! Is its really so? Or is it more that the vast majority of "those" people come from even bigger shit-holes, where by comparison, even Romania would be an improvement?

And then there is the "before" and "after". Once you live there, you can't escape seeing the facade crumble right before your eyes!

You'd know that, all-knowing Gamla, had you actually ever lived here, rather than merely "living-it" second-hand, vicariously, through the experiences of your Meatballian kin.

Did you ever consider, that you just don't get "it"...and that you don't even know what "it" is?
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Svedallas
post 8.Jun.2018, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE (wallace1837 @ 7.Jun.2018, 10:35 PM) *
Still confused between information and feelings.


Wallace click below:

https://sl.se/en/eng-info/fares/arlanda/
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Svedallas
post 8.Jun.2018, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE (SmokerT69 @ 8.Jun.2018, 12:11 AM) *
We could always move back to Bermuda or the UK, or Canada for that matter. The whole reason we moved here was because my wife wanted our kids to grow up around her family. Her ... (show full quote)


The UK could be an option.
There are currently plenty of jobs, and the flight is only 2 hours.

I know some families who commute frequently.
Does bermuda have an agreement with the UK? As an ex colony?
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wallace1837
post 8.Jun.2018, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 8.Jun.2018, 08:46 AM) *

I am not going to Arlanda, it is in Sweden!
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SmokerT69
post 8.Jun.2018, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 8.Jun.2018, 08:53 AM) *
The UK could be an option.. There are currently plenty of jobs, and the flight is only 2 hours.. I know some families who commute frequently.. Does bermuda have an agreement with the UK? As an ex colony?


Bermuda is still a colony. Well, we don't call it that anymore. It's an "overseas territory". We have our own parliment and laws, similar to Scotland. But the UK has final say in all matters. We are all British citizens by birth. Out laws are largely based on England but we don't follow their lead. For example our government decided to not join the EU human rights and abide by their laws. For issues like gay marriage and so on, we hold referendums.

All bermudians have the right to live and work in Great Britain, but not the other way around. British citizens have to apply for a work permit or visa if they are staying longer than 90 days. Anyone married to a Bermudian has automatic right to live, work and own a business etc.
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Svedallas
post 8.Jun.2018, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (wallace1837 @ 8.Jun.2018, 09:53 AM) *
I am not going to Arlanda, it is in Sweden!


You idiot.
From Arlanda, take the first plane out of here.

You are not wanted here either.
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Svedallas
post 8.Jun.2018, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (SmokerT69 @ 8.Jun.2018, 12:27 PM) *
Bermuda is still a colony. Well, we don't call it that anymore. It's an "overseas territory". We have our own parliment and laws, similar to Scotland. But th ... (show full quote)


Then, in that case. Try and find work via the UK - since you qualify to apply for there. Some companies can allow remote work...

Isn't it crazy that these 9000 failed asylum seekers will have more of a right.
I am livid.
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