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Need Helping Wooing A Swede in Canada

Everyone else says her name wrong: Helena

jdt1992
post 1.Feb.2011, 03:12 PM
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I met a girl from Gotaland (my keyboard cannot make an umlaut, and I want to impress her by being the only Canadian to pronounce her name right. Everyone says it "Hel-EJ-na" or how an English speaker would read the name Helena.

She says it "Hel-YEN-a" or perhaps "Hel-YEJ-na", and says that it is pronounced "forward, in front of the mouth" and not "in the throat/back of mouth" as I do.

Could someone familiar with this name please use the website vocaroo.com to record the name, say it slowly and carefully, as well as normally as in conversation, and paste the link that is generated under "post on the internet". Use the second one, "vocaroo link".

Any tips you can give would be great as well.
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gplusa
post 1.Feb.2011, 03:22 PM
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just me, and not accounting for local accents, I break it into He-le-na. With the second "e" being sounding (leee) than the first "e". The "e" sound is also quite a flat sound, unlike in other languages. The L is also be stressed, which is why I'd move it to the second part of the word. I guess you could couple the "n" onto the back of the "e". I think that's how we say our friend's name (scratching my head).
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jdt1992
post 1.Feb.2011, 03:26 PM
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Yes, thisis a very local accent. There is a distinct English-Y sound after the first syllable, almost to make it four syllables long.
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Streja
post 1.Feb.2011, 03:49 PM
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?

English Y?

Don't say heleyna as it is wrong.

HE LE NA
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Try saying it in Spanish and adding the H sound at the beginning and you get something similar to Swedish.
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jdt1992
post 1.Feb.2011, 03:53 PM
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The trick to it is that it is not pronounced exactly as it looks, whether one reads it phonetically in Sweis or English.
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jdt1992
post 1.Feb.2011, 03:53 PM
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**Swedish

Thanks keyboard tongue.gif
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byke
post 1.Feb.2011, 03:56 PM
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http://vocaroo.com/?media=vjfbh2G8xmS70h8Ob
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Streja
post 1.Feb.2011, 03:58 PM
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byke, did you pronounce bajs there? It's incorrect. Bajs has no [z] sound. It's not voiced. smile.gif
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jdt1992
post 1.Feb.2011, 04:07 PM
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Yeah, I'm definitely not calling her that.
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byke
post 1.Feb.2011, 04:07 PM
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Helena, is pronounced very similar to the name "Dave" with a sarf English accent.
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thecraicer
post 1.Feb.2011, 04:48 PM
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A bottle of vodka and a little bravado usually works to woo them.
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scandinavian leather
post 1.Feb.2011, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE (jdt1992 @ 1.Feb.2011, 03:12 PM) *
my keyboard cannot make an umlaut

http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/e...ies/latin1.html

The grail of all symbols.
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Opalnera
post 1.Feb.2011, 07:03 PM
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I think the strongest sound would be in the middle. The Swedish way of pronouncing E is something like "eya". I would give "He-leya-na" a try. Lucky she is not called Åsa. A girl I met here called Tove went on exchange to USA and said they called her stove, or "hey you Swedish girl".
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jdt1992
post 1.Feb.2011, 08:00 PM
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Opalnera that's exactly how she says it. Do you know what the "in front of the mouth" versus "in the throat" technique is?
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Opalnera
post 1.Feb.2011, 08:25 PM
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Difficult to replicate. My only advice there is, try not to have to much air in your mouth and kind of swallow. I think tone is more important.
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