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Pope Francis As Next Nobel Peace Prize Winner

Should Get More Votes Than All Other Candidates

Model T Ford
post 5.Sep.2013, 03:42 PM
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The new Pope has done so much good, and offered the sad world so much hope for improvement, especially now for speaking out against America's militarism for solving the globe's ills, that he should receive the prize in Oslo, particularly when it gave it without any evidence to its leading war monger, President Obama.

Pope Francis is a real winner, even for rabid anti.Catholics!
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skogsbo
post 5.Sep.2013, 03:50 PM
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But, religion only divides never unites. Given the previous winners, I think it is totally devalued. Putin or Assad could win it next and be as credible as Obama or the EU.
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Model T Ford
post 5.Sep.2013, 04:28 PM
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Quite wrong, Skogsbo, but hardly surprising.

Francis is trying to stop religiously-based wars and conflicts, and has dropped protocol when dealing with important Muslims. He even bowed recently to the Muslim Queen of Jordan.

And he makes no value judgments about homosexuality.

The world is divided along religious lines, and a leader who doesn't start with this in mind is going to gain nothing.
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The Nine
post 8.Sep.2013, 06:56 PM
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It should not be given to anyone of a political or religious ethos, unless their acts of peace and unity are separate from their job and creed.

I had the honour of attending the presentation in 2004, to Kenyan activist, Wangari Maathai. At the time she was a very controversial winner. Her work related mainly to what she had done for African women in poverty. She had set up a tree planting initiative where upon impoverished women, who were reliant on their husbands (and treated like house slaves and baby makers) could rent a plot of land for little more than a few dollars a year, and grow saplings that were then sold on to logging companies who were bound by law to replace the trees they cut down. It gave these women a personal income and meant they were no longer reliant on their men folk and gave them a self determination and a worth to society that they had never had. The whole thing was a huge success but Wangari spent two years in a Nairobi prison, beaten and tortured for having dared to break the rules of Kenyan society that make women the property of their men.

I will never forget her face when she was applauded by Presidents, Prime Ministers and royalty, (and her proud kids) NPP should be about people like her, and not just a PR stunt for the Vatican or The Whitehouse.

Let us not forget that The Catholic Church is responsible for more deaths than Hitler and Stalin combined. Maybe the new Pope is a new broom to sweep way many of their crimes, but those crimes still exist and right now they are involved in many child abuse scandals, regardless of their past evils. If Nobel gives this accolade to the new Pope, they will lose all credibility.

Nobel should always go to someone who has just tried their best for others, and not on behalf of their employers.
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intrepidfox
post 8.Sep.2013, 07:30 PM
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Too many politicians winning the prize.

I always remember Betty Williams and Mairead Corrigan. Normal people winning
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cogito
post 9.Sep.2013, 01:31 PM
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The Pope has a greater coalition than the president has.
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AgeOfReason
post 9.Sep.2013, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (The Nine @ 8.Sep.2013, 07:56 PM) *
It should not be given to anyone of a political or religious ethos, unless their acts of peace and unity are separate from their job and creed.

Kind of implies that the peace prize should only be given to people that do not believe in peace! biggrin.gif
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The Nine
post 12.Sep.2013, 08:48 PM
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How? My point was that there are many many deserving people of this award whose actions and work are not linked to their broader agenda as a political or religious activist. Your comment seems to suggest that unless you are political or religious, you can't believe in peace. ?
I was simply saying that there are many people who deserve it who don't serve a government or a God,
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AgeOfReason
post 12.Sep.2013, 09:00 PM
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After todays article in the NY Times, My vote goes for Putin biggrin.gif
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skogsbo
post 13.Sep.2013, 06:10 AM
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Rather bizarrely, Putin has prevent a previous Nobel prize winner from going to war!
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Model T Ford
post 13.Sep.2013, 03:03 PM
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Nothing bizarre about Putin's success up to now, as he has put together a coalition to stop the war-mongering Americans who haven't been able to keep their puppet allies on board.

Still, Washington is hoping to use its apparent poison gas attack to instigate a showdown over Syria as a means of breaking Iranian support for Putin.

Hope it doesn't succeed, but Putin will only be a real candidate for the Peace Prize if he prevents a serious war in the region - what Washington wants in the hope that it can gain control of all the easily accessible oil in the area.
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