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Further study proves migrants make Sweden great

at getting into debt.

Uncle Fred
post 9.Mar.2019, 09:59 AM
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Sweden needs to find $18.6 Billion

Picture shows some lazy locals as mentioned in an earlier study.

https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017...ant-crime-cost/
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Svedallas
post 9.Mar.2019, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (Uncle Fred @ 9.Mar.2019, 09:59 AM) *
Sweden needs to find $18.6 Billion . Picture shows some lazy locals as mentioned in an earlier study.. https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017...ant-crime-cost/


Why do you think they keep raising the retirement age?

Also, many major services are being closed.

First was they closed many homeless shelters, then AMS (how ironic when there are so many refugees unemployed), and in spring majority of the culture museums will no longer be free.

Deprive citizens, further and further, all for majority fake asylum seekers who will never get a job. Let us be honest. They will depend on welfare because there they are on practically vacation while the rest of the working residents and citizens work and pay over 40% of their taxes or their holiday.
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skogsbo
post 9.Mar.2019, 11:37 AM
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Retirement age increase, because people are living much longer and to fund those extra years of pension payments and healthcare they need more years of tax coming in from you.

It's the same problem in any western country. 21st century longevity, 20th century retirement age. We previously died within a decade of retiring, where as now people are pushing on well into their 80s with expensive healthcare keeping them literally ticking along.
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Uncle Fred
post 9.Mar.2019, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE (skogsbo @ 9.Mar.2019, 11:37 AM) *
Retirement age increase, because people are living much longer and to fund those extra years of pension payments and healthcare they need more years of tax coming in from you. ... (show full quote)

Agree, but there is only such much tax revenue, so with the extra 1,000,000 refugees the bubble will burst as the study shows.
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Svedallas
post 9.Mar.2019, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (Uncle Fred @ 9.Mar.2019, 12:14 PM) *
Agree, but there is only such much tax revenue, so with the extra 1,000,000 refugees the bubble will burst as the study shows.


There is not that much revenue from the tax.
Do not forget that healthcare, education is also extremely expensive.

The refugees are a huge debt to Sweden, and the working residents and citizens are forking the bill. This is what will shut down the welfare state if something drastic is not done in the next 5 years.

We cannot afford to keep paying out. We need more people working and contributing into the system, not just taking it...

It costs at least 1000kr per day per refugee. PER DAY.
And they barely can speak any Swedish or English, so it will take minimum 5 years until employable in a low skilled job. Which will not contribute much..it is better they take any work than just sponge off the benefits.
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nativeswedishengineer
post 9.Mar.2019, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 9.Mar.2019, 12:34 PM) *
The refugees are a huge debt to Sweden, and the working residents and citizens are forking the bill. This is what will shut down the welfare state if something drastic is not done in the next 5 years.


That is actually the agenda of the neoliberals. Overload the wellfare systems to force privatization, I wonder how attractive low-skilled work migration to Sweden is when Sweden has turned into Brazil.
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Svedallas
post 9.Mar.2019, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE (nativeswedishengineer @ 9.Mar.2019, 12:42 PM) *
That is actually the agenda of the neoliberals. Overload the wellfare systems to force privatization, I wonder how attractive low-skilled work migration to Sweden is when Swed ... (show full quote)


It already started. AMS has practically closed.

Low skilled migration is pointless. It doesn't amount to anything. But it still contributes to the system.

I wonder what the government was thinking when they took in over 140,000 refugees all at once. No-one wants to employ them. Hence why the crime rates now are at the highest levels.

If a Brit or American cannot even get a job here, do they think someone who learned to read and write at SFI is adding value to a company? I do not understand their thinking...

If we were heavy on farming and manufacturing they could get jobs. But now being one of the most innovative countries in Europe, we have robots for most things...low skilled manual labor is not desirable. It will work for Germany they are the strongest economically and need low skilled labor. But, not for Sweden. This country is too small.

So what happens is the only one working are paying for those who cannot, and never will.
or they get into crime...thats it.
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Uncle Fred
post 9.Mar.2019, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 9.Mar.2019, 12:50 PM) *
If we were heavy on farming and manufacturing they could get jobs.

Here I think is a way to progress, not so much in manufacturing but farming.

Southern Sweden has plenty of unused arable land the government could exploit. Investment in this would be much more beneficial.

Manufacturing, I have wondered for years why kommuns don't free up land and attract business by giving it for free.
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nativeswedishengineer
post 9.Mar.2019, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 9.Mar.2019, 12:50 PM) *
It already started. AMS has practically closed.Low skilled migration is pointless. It doesn't amount to anything. But it still contributes to the system.I wonder what the ... (show full quote)


The Reinfeldt II government wanted to use migration to overload the unions, overload all public wellfare and to create and oversupply of chea labour, not very hard to connect the dots. Their next plan is to bring back live-in servants who get payed in room and board.
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Svedallas
post 9.Mar.2019, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (Uncle Fred @ 9.Mar.2019, 01:14 PM) *
Here I think is a way to progress, not so much in manufacturing but farming. Southern Sweden has plenty of unused arable land the government could exploit. Investment in this ... (show full quote)


Sweden cannot manufacture anything but Volvo and Ikea.
Seasonal farming has been taken over by Easten Europeans who come here specifically for the season. They work hard, and understand the process, and leave, and they make enough money that what they would make in a year, in a summer.

Name me one skill someone from any MENA country would bring into the table.
Just one.
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Gjeebes
post 9.Mar.2019, 07:32 PM
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"Do not forget that healthcare, education is also extremely expensive."

And don't forget the enormous cost of running the feckless, over-bloated, inefficient, over-reaching Meatballian government, in all its pointless glory.

Definitely a case against "you-get-what-you-pay-for".

On the other hand, Sweden's speciality, empty "virtue-signalling"...priceless.
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nativeswedishengineer
post 10.Mar.2019, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 9.Mar.2019, 07:32 PM) *
"Do not forget that healthcare, education is also extremely expensive."And don't forget the enormous cost of running the feckless, over-bloated, inefficient, ove ... (show full quote)


So, you claim that the expensive and inefficient swedish governance costs more than it should, yet is an example of "you get what you pay for"? You should spend less time in your chemistry lab, the fumes are obviously starting to take their toll on your cognitive abilities.
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Gjeebes
post 11.Mar.2019, 04:16 AM
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"...yet is an example of "you get what you pay for""

Yikes, a bit sloppy on the old "reading & comprehension". To be expected from a Meatball.

So, I'll connect the dots for you...I wrote "Definitely a case against "you-get-what-you-pay-for".

Do you understand the word "against"? As in you DON'T get what you pay for?

Do you need it splained to you in yet more detail?

"You should spend less time in your chemistry lab, the fumes are obviously starting to take their toll on your cognitive abilities."

I'm guessing you are a typical Meatballian Meat-bot? Can read words but no one is there to tell you what they mean?
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