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So tired of living in Sweden!

Tired of the country

TheExpatEagle
post 25.Oct.2019, 06:49 PM
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Why does anyone need to 'fix' the rental market? I don't see there is anything wrong with it and it certainly should not be 'fixed' to favour foreigners, which I am one.
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Gjeebes
post 26.Oct.2019, 10:25 AM
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Perhaps you are as unsuccessful in your understanding of basic things as you are at creating your own Meatballian forum?

Loads of people also can't see the problem with Trumpty-Dumbty, but it doesn't stand that there couldn't be one, on that basis.

Try to look further than your own nose, you will marvel at what you see, that isn't all about you.
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ersel
post 26.Oct.2019, 12:27 PM
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TheExpatEagle
post 26.Oct.2019, 07:23 PM
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ersel
post 26.Oct.2019, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 26.Oct.2019, 08:23 PM) *
No, I don't see the problem. I got an apartment last year. I also got an apartment in 2005, 2007, 2009 and 2010 all 1st hand contracts in Stockholm and Sk?ne. I know other ... (show full quote)


I do not see any point whatsoever, regarding the country wide problem (yes, it does exist, whole Sweden knows about it, it has been written about in media, and shown zillion times, so how come you pretend like it's not even there ? ) in that part of your reply. I have changed several flats, and have a first hand contract. But it is not either without its problems, and many people say the same thing. For many that have done what you cite there is a small army of those who live like modern nomads, and you knowing the foreigners and Swedes who have done the same says nothing about the situation with housing in Sweden.

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 26.Oct.2019, 08:23 PM) *
This might shock you, I even have got a 1st hand contract without being in a queue and so have other people.


I believe that many swedes who wait for well over 10 years for the first hand contract in normal part of the city would be really curious as to how you have skipped the queue.

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 26.Oct.2019, 08:23 PM) *
What do you want to change about it?


First of all, I am not on the trial here, and do not try to sell that technique of conducting the dialogue to someone of my age and experience, just in order to salvage what is basically the failed argument, and to derail the subject you have touched upon. The subject is the rental market, and swedes themselves have criticised it for over 25 years I know of, and that heavily, it is public knowledge and well accepted fact.

Having said that, I know exactly what I would change about it, have no doubt about it at all, but I am not going to disclose it to you at this moment.

It might happen that you perhaps will read about it later on. See this as NO excuse, but just as a firm marking towards both the content of what you write, which is insulting for the intelligence of the normal human being in Sweden, deliberately misleading, and the tone which is coming across as both ignorant and very arrogant, but the latter being done in very well thought out and directed manner. If you think it has gone by as unnoticed, you might be gravely mistaken.



QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 26.Oct.2019, 08:23 PM) *
Will the changes you want to make impact on the rents people pay?


That is a very fishy question, posed with the clear agenda on mind.
But nevertheless, yes, it would.

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 26.Oct.2019, 08:23 PM) *
How will the rentals be totally indiscriminate?


Neither rentals nor life are anywhere totally indiscriminate, first of all. Second of all, I really have no idea or do not see how that is relevant here, the discussion can be easily held without blending in that notion. Much else has to be met first in order to even be able to put that question on the table, in this context.
I think the usage of that question, and even bringing is into this "debate" is a rather ugly and cheap factual and rhetorical mishap or trick, but whatever serves you the best.

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 26.Oct.2019, 08:23 PM) *
I look forward to your suggestions.



One looks forward to the swedish sm?rg?sbord or other things in life, but doesn't order whatever it pleases him in such manner from someone else. It is demeaning and deeply condescending, while served as a false "politeness". Don't play such game with adults.
You can perhaps use that sort of rhetorical bravado with someone else, or at this forum, but leave it aside with me, will you.
Try to use it (well, do not, for your own sake) in a business context, and I can assure you that,
this last sentence of yours would effectively finish whatever you have tried to achieve with it the very moment you have said it, when used in such manner and context. It would end the whole case often without you even ever knowing it before it is far too late.
Some people are not born yesterday, try to remember that once and for all.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 26.Oct.2019, 10:53 PM
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This CLOWN rocks TheLocal...

It's fun again!!!

If only it would be more direct, and not so ambiguous we would really get his message...and that is???
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ersel
post 26.Oct.2019, 11:53 PM
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It's funny how the word "meatballian" rhymes with the word "imbecillian"...
or not funny... ohmy.gif
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Cheeseroller
post 27.Oct.2019, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE (ersel @ 27.Oct.2019, 12:53 AM) *
It's funny how the word "meatballian" rhymes with the word "imbecillian"... . or not funny... ohmy.gif


Next time Aftondagbladet or Expressen publishes the "rich list" of the top tax payers in Sweden - look for the foreign names.

Good luck finding any!

At the end:
- it is not about fluency in the language
- or understanding their culture
- or the degrees you have

It is about:
- are you a Swede going back 3 or 4 generations.

Because anyone else, will find the glass ceilings.
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Saywhatwhat
post 27.Oct.2019, 05:26 AM
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TheExpatEagle
post 27.Oct.2019, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (ersel @ 27.Oct.2019, 12:53 AM) *
It's funny how the word "meatballian" rhymes with the word "imbecillian"... . or not funny... ohmy.gif


You need to learn about rhyming because that isn't a true rhyme. A loose b-rhyme or a slant rhyme maybe.
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TheExpatEagle
post 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Oct.2019, 09:53 PM
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Thank you for that post...
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ersel
post 28.Oct.2019, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
This just is not true. You can join a queue and get a place within a year if you are not a snob. In many larger cities, Helsingborg as an example, 10 years of queue would get ... (show full quote)


I really do not know if you are cognitively challenged, or dyslectic, or completely oblivious to the realities of life in largest cities in Sweden, at least two of them, but not even 10 years guarantees the contract in central - decent areas of the city. And that for people not being snobs, wanting to function normally, to have calm place to return to from work, only not wanting to live in suburbs, where unemployment rate is sky high, where drug dealing, gangs, shootings and the whole milieu is nothing resembling a normal place to live, where people are stigmatised from the day one by the ethnicity, name and surname, and put into reservats. Ever heard of such places in Sweden ?
By their names?

Do not put the Helsinborg here as a prime example. Look at the statistics and facts before trying to state "your case".

So you are, indeed, rather full of it, as you like to put it to others, in your complete lack of arguments.

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
I did not skip the queue. I joined it, got in line and got a place to live. Several times.


So you have joined the queue, got in line, and got a place to live; and that even several times! Wow!
In your earlier post you have proudly stated that you got the flat immediately. I was talking about rental market - hyresl?genheter, not buying market, and now - you are ok and I am full of it... nice going again. Your story is the story of the ordinary swede in the larger - largest cities? What reality do you live in ??

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
There are housing companies who you can get an apartment on a first come basis so if you see the ad, get to look at it and say yes it's yours. There are plenty of these co ... (show full quote)


There are no companies that are renting the apartments that are allowed to skip the so called communal queue, so what you talking about does not belong to the market for rental apartments (not the bought ones), at least not where I live. It is larger than Hbg, btw. So who's full of it, again ? People usually do not look to such ads, and if they do then it is, as a rule second hand, and with sky-rocketed prices. We do not seem to live in the same country, look what other people are writing about the same issue in this thread and start using your brain, for once. You are stating the exceptions and stories most people never heard of as a norm.
Guess what, that is not a norm, nor would most of the people in Sweden ever adhere to the story you are presenting, but only laugh at it.

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
I've known people split up with their partners and find a 1st hand contract within 3 months. Sure, they are not the cheapest but it can be done. I'm talking about a 1.000kr difference in rent.


Oh really... Hahaha ... what a piece of i... biggrin.gif 1000 kr. difference in rent ??? hahahahhaha ahhahahhaaa... oh, boy... hahahahahaha 1:st hand contract within 3 months ???? hahahhahaha
Just be careful that housing companies or the municipal company here (-f?rmedling) does not hear about what you write... hahahahahhahaha ...

I have watched live program from the studio in Stockholm, on TV4, where the subject was housing crisis in Sthlm. While the discussion was ongoing, the sms messages were shown in the bottom of the screen. One fellow had to (written in plain swedish, from him) say 'thank you goodbuye' to the well payed job in the city, due to the full impossibility to find any housing. No, he was not a foreigner, he was born swede. Parents were Swedes. It was swedish live tv-program, made for swedes. One of the program hosts was Jenny Str?mstedt, well known tv- and media profile in Sweden.

Do you know what year that was ? Can you guess ?

Series of articles in GP in Gothenburg were showing the students skipping the first year and admissions to the universities due to not being able to find anything for any decent (possible at all to pay) rent, living in trailers, series of article in other newpapers (Sthlm) about modern nomads, living while having uncertain 2nd. and 3rd. hand contracts, having to move on average every 6 months, and you are coming here with you claims...
And I am the one full of it, in your world... biggrin.gif Boy, what a piece of m...

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
"I'm not on trial here..." Are you full of sh*t? That is a rhetorical question because you are.


Nice going. Ever wondered about how full of what you must be, if I am what you claim ? You could get rich if you start exporting that same merchandise, since fertilizers are rather usable, and you seem not to be under x *1000s of it in cubics.



QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
No, engaging in a dialogue isn't an agenda. If someone moans they should put forward improvements. Truth is you can't change the system without it impacting on rents.


What ????
Hahahahhahahaha ... aaaa hhhahahaaaaa...

and you are the ok one, and I am full of it... ??????

hahahahahah

Who are you, in all seriousness, try to sell that type of flosculas to ? Do you honestly think people are that stupid and ill educated to even be able to start to buy into such crap of an "argument" ?

hahahaha... .what an i...

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
The system serves the many and shouldn't be changed to benefit the few who feel that they should be put first because they have a chip on their shoulder.We are guests here ... (show full quote)


Again, you truly suffer from serious cognitive dissonance ... or are being outright id... in trying to discredit others by transcribing to them what they have never thought or said.

First of all, any changes proposed by any of us, and in particular me, would only serve the benefit of all people in Sweden; you (im)putting that other people here suggest otherwise (selective) is simple trick, cheap, low and most of all completely incorrect, so shame on you. It is really low and rather disgusting.

Second of all, if you have already pulled the story about how just (for all) system is to be, than, if there was any justice, you would not have EVER get the flats in the way you have described, to begin with, when many other ordinary people have to wait for so many years, of cannot even take jobs because of it.


QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
Yeah because you want a system where money gets you ahead of the queue instead of taking a number and waiting. Just because you can't get what you want when you want it really must annoy you.


First of all, because of this line: you are a total, bona fide, outright m... , who does not know the first thing he is talking about, and does not check his facts before he opens his mouth.

I want exactly the opposite; have never payed or bought the flat, never thought about getting ahead of people by using money, detest personally anything such, and you, despite of it, write what you write. Just unbelievable.
Your (smart ?) way of milking the info, or you are truly being outright stupid ?

Making presumptions about someone one does not know anything about, fabricating information about the person, then fabricating persons intent, and then, drawing conclusions and accusing that person on this or that on the basis of such - own - constructions ???

Where does all of that put you ? Where ?



QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
I'm happy for there to be a seniority based queuing system.


Judging from your "resume", that seniority based system was not applicable to you at all, as it seems, so you seem to be the type who preaches one thing for the rest of the society, while acts himself in the opposite manner (what you have written yourself on how you skipped waiting), so that is, in your case, the definition of person which is a: H... ?


QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:20 PM) *
You don't have to have been born yesterday to be a moron. I guess you are just lucky in that way?


Yeah, since I am not born yesterday, I, sadly for you, do not belong to your kind.

On the other hand, you do seem to be the exception confirming the rule you have stated, or the rule itself, - eventually the same in your case, that states that one can be born yesterday (which you seem to be) and still be what you are (truly a lucky one in that way).
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ersel
post 28.Oct.2019, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 27.Oct.2019, 09:53 PM) *
Thank you for that post...


Have you finished your gr?t ? Or was it sylta today ?
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 28.Oct.2019, 01:45 AM
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A most enjoyable rant...but again you miss the point...stop holding back and just let out what you really think...Don't be afraid, there are people here willing to help you with your problem...

Open up and bravely tell us what you are afraid of, however do not shrink back into your shell as you are an exceptional comic and we will miss your wonderfully worded and executed comedic routine...

Again, you can be helped, people here are specialists in the rehabilitation of your type of???

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