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Beyond the Kronofogden

how to get blood from a stone?

Frustrated
post 30.Aug.2018, 10:30 PM
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Hej alla,

I wonder if anyone has any experience collecting debts after kronofogden has failed? In my case, I'm owed money (this is a person to person issue, no companies involved), I took it to court, got a decision in my favour with legal force, and applied to KF for enforcement. I get a letter today from KF that the debtor has in sufficient resources to pay the debt (!) and they will make another investigation sometime before the year 2020. Do any of you know of any recourse I might have to actually collect what's owed to me?

/frustrated
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Bsmith
post 30.Aug.2018, 11:14 PM
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I know a guy named Vito...
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Frustrated
post 30.Aug.2018, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 31.Aug.2018, 12:14 AM) *
I know a guy named Vito...


...tell me more
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Gjeebes
post 31.Aug.2018, 03:45 AM
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Wow, seems there is no limit to the long list of feckless Swedish agencies.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 31.Aug.2018, 05:13 AM
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Vito?

The big guy from Nunzio's Boom Boom Room...
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Frustrated
post 31.Aug.2018, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 31.Aug.2018, 04:45 AM) *
Wow, seems there is no limit to the long list of feckless Swedish agencies.


Sweet :/
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Saywhatwhat
post 31.Aug.2018, 08:27 AM
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How to get blood from a stone?

Squeeze it so hard until it breaks. Sometimes you need a vice, a group of friends to help, a bat, a hammer.
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Frustrated
post 31.Aug.2018, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 31.Aug.2018, 09:27 AM) *
Squeeze it so hard until it breaks. Sometimes you need a vice, a group of friends to help, a bat, a hammer.


I've thought about all this, believe me, but I'd like to stay within the limits of the law and ethics for the most part. Maybe it's possible, for example, to sell debt...anybody heard of that?
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BlackfDes
post 31.Aug.2018, 10:09 AM
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I have some bikie friends who might be able to help. rolleyes.gif

But I take no responsibility for any future interactions, particularly if they continue to visit you weekly after they successfully gather your money. unsure.gif
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Saywhatwhat
post 31.Aug.2018, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (Frustrated @ 31.Aug.2018, 11:03 AM) *
I've thought about all this, believe me, but I'd like to stay within the limits of the law and ethics for the most part. Maybe it's possible, for example, to sell ... (show full quote)


Isn't that just going into debt with someone else basically?

Of course stay within your moral limits. What is your relationship to the person, how much do they owe you and what for if you don't mind me asking. If you don't mind me asking, also, where you are from and where this person is from?

Maybe you can get them to give you some kind of collateral for the time until they have the money?
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Frustrated
post 31.Aug.2018, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 31.Aug.2018, 11:57 AM) *
Isn't that just going into debt with someone else basically?Of course stay within your moral limits. What is your relationship to the person, how much do they owe you and ... (show full quote)


Where I come from, there are companies who buy debt. Basically, someone owes you 10, they buy it for 7. You get 7 and the company gets the 10 from the person who owes you. I'm not going into debt with someone else, but I transfer their debt and take a percentage so I don't have to deal with it anymore.

I have no relationship or contact with the person – it's all over sublet gone bad, and after Hyresnamnden and court, they owe me around 30k. The person in question is Swedish, I'm from elsewhere, more than that I won't say. I'm not interested in any collaterals or deals from this person – I offered plenty of opportunity for negotiation, which was met with a figurative middle finger.
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Saywhatwhat
post 31.Aug.2018, 11:23 AM
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No need to say where u are from. My curiosity was more a worry for you being from somewhere else and the perpetrator a native... So they might have a leg up in the situation.

30k is a lot and I understand you just want the money and situation done.

I don't know any businesses like that. Google it I guess? Maybe someone else will chime in with info.

I sincerely hope the best for you in this situation!
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ChocOwl
post 31.Aug.2018, 11:44 AM
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I doubt any debt-collecting company would be interested in "buying" the debt, sounds like a very high risk that it will be difficult to collect.
Can you get some advice from Kronofogden?
Maybe you can apply for the person to be declared bankrupt? ("konkurs")
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Frustrated
post 31.Aug.2018, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 31.Aug.2018, 12:23 PM) *
No need to say where u are from. My curiosity was more a worry for you being from somewhere else and the perpetrator a native... So they might have a leg up in the situation.. ... (show full quote)


This is the situation. Thanks

QUOTE (ChocOwl @ 31.Aug.2018, 12:44 PM) *
I doubt any debt-collecting company would be interested in "buying" the debt, sounds like a very high risk that it will be difficult to collect. Can you get some adv ... (show full quote)


I've seen this on the KF website. Do I have any interest in getting that person bankrupt? Where I come from when you go bankrupt your debts are cleared and the people/companies you owe get nothing from you (of course any/all assets are first seized/divvied up among the creditors and you get zero credit from anyone for around 10 years).

Yesterday I responded to KF with a request for more information, but they're notorious (at least to me) for 3–5 word replies to complex questions.
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ChocOwl
post 31.Aug.2018, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (Frustrated @ 31.Aug.2018, 01:01 PM) *
I've seen this on the KF website. Do I have any interest in getting that person bankrupt? Where I come from when you go bankrupt your debts are cleared and the people/comp ... (show full quote)

If the person has an income I think you will get some of it until the debt is paid - if they are bankrupt they sort of lose control over their finances.
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