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The perverse anti-Westernism of the cultural elite

*Kodos*
post 6.Mar.2006, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE (RoyE)
He's into the libertarian zone - where right and left merge and anything can happen. laugh.gif


I know. I'm weak. Whenever he's on Hardball, I stop dead in my tracks. Help me, Roy! Help!
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Roy E
post 6.Mar.2006, 03:03 PM
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Joined: 23.Nov.2005

QUOTE (Matt)
Oh. He's buggered off.


just a bump for Matt and Bruce B if they want to get this thing back on topic and continue the discussion.
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*Kodos*
post 6.Mar.2006, 03:41 PM
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Yes...

Let's slam the liberal elite. I'm feeling a little fiesty today.
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Roy E
post 6.Mar.2006, 05:31 PM
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Joined: 23.Nov.2005

I've always taken issue with the term 'elite'

'Elitist' or 'elitism' as an attitude, yes.

But 'elite' as if they are? No, they're not.
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*Kodos*
post 6.Mar.2006, 05:41 PM
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Speak for yourself, Roy. I'm certainly an elitist. :wink:

I agree. It's like saying, over here...on our left...we have the elite. Over here...on our right...you'll find knuckle dragging conservatives.

Wait...I have said that before. :wink:
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*Meglos*
post 7.Mar.2006, 03:29 AM
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Sorry Roy, I've just moved to Sydney so not posting so much any more.
Anyway, as an unapologetically unfashionable conservative type, I recommend both Roger Scruton and Theodore Dalrymple as good reading, if you haven't already read them of course. The latter is especially good when it comes to describing the practical consequences of liberal policies.

This chap is bit over the top, but he sometimes writes good stuff amongst his presumably tongue-in-cheek ravings:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/Spengler1.html
His doomsday article on "Why Europe chooses extinction" got me started.

Edit: I thought of Scruton because I think he was the first one, some time ago, to really identify and describe this "we hate ourselves, will you love us now?" mentality.
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Roy E
post 7.Mar.2006, 04:07 AM
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Thanks Matt,

I've read Theodore Dalrymple and I'll have to look into Roger Scruton.

Western self-loathing is an interesting phenomenon, isn't it? It's difficult to get a handle on that.

Enjoy Australia! It's a fine country!
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