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35 different second-hand homes in 10 years

The reality for those who can't have first-hand

Bsmith
post 2.Mar.2019, 09:54 PM
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When I lived in Sweden, I bought a house. I had some money saved up and got a real solid, little house on 7 hectares for 690000 SEK which at that time the dollar was 1 to 10. It was a good deal. But the job situation was difficult. I managed to get a job but not in my field and at a fairly low rate of pay, I thought. So, I didn't stay.

I didn't complain. I didn't whine. I didn't try to make Sweden be any more than it was. I assessed the situation and decided to move back home and am very happy with that choice.

I wish the best for you and hope that you can find happiness, too.
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pepitoAndalucia
post 3.Mar.2019, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE (skogsbo @ 2.Mar.2019, 07:30 PM) *
Pep.So to summarise. Spain has a surplus of accommodation because the economy isn't good and there are no jobs.Sweden has jobs, economics are not too bad, so everyone else ... (show full quote)


You are a compulsive liar and a simplistic person. Lunatic.

Spain has an open market for housing, sweden is a monopoly.
Sweden has a monopolistic, corrupt rental market full of restrictions that's why rental market is such a pyramid scheme. Which you defend.

Spain is the second most visited country on earth and despite it they can keep up and offer choices something your mighty sweden can't.

Sweden is actually a very isolated place in fact is not even among the most visited in Europe and despite it they can't even offer decent rental market. Just imagine how poor the system is.


You are an absolute manipulator, nothing new about life in sweden.
Lucky us the world doesn't care about you. ;-)
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pepitoAndalucia
post 3.Mar.2019, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 2.Mar.2019, 10:54 PM) *
When I lived in Sweden, I bought a house. I had some money saved up and got a real solid, little house on 7 hectares for 690000 SEK which at that time the dollar was 1 to 10. ... (show full quote)


I will eventually move to Spain.

I cannot take this repressive society in which people must fit-in.

People here act in ways I have never seen in my life. Very closed culture and a lot of collaborators who will defend the system even if they have to manipulate and lie. Just see svedallas and skogsbo comments, it's all manipulation and false information. These are the people who will feel like at home in sweden.

It's shocking how the average swede tries to make excuses for problems that affect them too. It's like if they have been passively brainwashed to follow the system without question. Sweden is the only country in which when I made a critic swedes turn red faced. It's like a passive dictatorship with the advantage every single swede will defend the system. CRAZY. The perfect society for those who want absolute control.

Interesting the world thinks these swedes are progressive when it's the opposite.
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john.boy
post 3.Mar.2019, 07:31 AM
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Location: Stockholm county
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QUOTE (pepitoAndalucia @ 1.Mar.2019, 11:32 PM) *
But in sweden due to regulations the landlord CANNOT DECIDE how long the tenancy is.Second hand rentals have a limitation. Landlords cannot rent out in most cases longer than ... (show full quote)

Incorrect.
There is no law that limits the time a Landlord can rent out an apartment they own.

And the article mentioned in the opening post is a classic example highlighting that first hand contracts do not have to be offered on any queue. Rental companies can choose if they want to put apartments onto a queue or not.
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skogsbo
post 3.Mar.2019, 08:23 AM
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Pep

What on earth does how many tourists a country has have to do with any of this?

So Spain, lots of tourists, fantastic housing system, dire economy. Can't win them all eh!?
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pepitoAndalucia
post 3.Mar.2019, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (john.boy @ 3.Mar.2019, 08:31 AM) *
Incorrect.There is no law that limits the time a Landlord can rent out an apartment they own.And the article mentioned in the opening post is a classic example highlighting th ... (show full quote)


The article represents average life for people who live in second hand. Everything else is just people and collaborators trying to hide what's actually happening in sweden.
I know you are all in "the sect" but the facts are the facts and the second hand market is short term contracts of 6 months max.

Sweden is going to crash it is just a matter of time.

QUOTE (skogsbo @ 3.Mar.2019, 09:23 AM) *
Pep . What on earth does how many tourists a country has have to do with any of this? . So Spain, lots of tourists, fantastic housing system, dire economy. Can't win them all eh!?


Spain is a friendly country to everybody, sweden is not.

As I said we don't have second hand short term contracts, sweden has designed that trap because they want to force people take a loan and buy. That's the pyramid scheme sweden has.

Sweden is not an open country.

Sweden is an isolated, dark, almost empty place and not even the most visited and despite that sweden has a poor, monopolistic housing system that cannot provide stable accommodation not even for their own people. Just imagine if sweden had the same number of visitors as Spain, then you country will collapse and it certainty will. Even though I know you will backstab Spain with a smile in your face.

sweden has the highest taxes in the world and despite it, it has the poorest and most undeveloped housing system. For what you pay in taxes you get very little in return, plus a poor and undeveloped banana like republic housing system. That's it a casino.

sweden is only marketing and thanks to collaborators like you and mr svedallas the old ranter the lie can go on until eventually sweden will crash. The crash will happen.

Now keep convincing yourself that Spain is such a terrible place because we make less money. I know swedes measure people by the salary they make. making €2000+ a month in sweden is the only value you all have. That's it. you all have no life, only the egocentric mindset that you are better than others because you paycheck is higher.

And you as a person and reading your comments...No wonder why you are so happy in sweden. Shit you behave like a perfect manipulator. Nothing new in this country.
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skogsbo
post 3.Mar.2019, 12:10 PM
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You need to read better. I didn't say Spain was a bad place, I said their economy isn't good. Two different things.

Yes, sweden has a smaller population and is much quieter. So what.

Put on svt1 now and you'll see 15000 people out enjoying themselves along with a few thousand happy supporters cheering them on.

Sweden is what you make it and you only live once. Don't waste it.

Ps. If anywhere doesn't care what you earn it's here.
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Uncle Fred
post 3.Mar.2019, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (pepitoAndalucia @ 3.Mar.2019, 01:09 AM) *
I will eventually move to Spain. I cannot take this repressive society in which people must fit-in.People here act in ways I have never seen in my life. Very closed culture an ... (show full quote)


You maybe right in many things you say, but what is your intention to do something about it. Its no good comming on this forum moaning, its like talking to the ally cat, you need to talk to the 10 million people of Sweden and try to change their ways. So unless you intend to do this I would not take this any further.
Good luck in Spain, I bet they cant wait to meet you.
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pepitoAndalucia
post 3.Mar.2019, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (skogsbo @ 3.Mar.2019, 01:10 PM) *
You need to read better. I didn't say Spain was a bad place, I said their economy isn't good. Two different things.Yes, sweden has a smaller population and is much qui ... (show full quote)



If there is a place in which I have heard jokes about southern people because they make money it's in sweden.

Here there is a sentiment that swedes feel superior than other cultures just because wages are higher and that gives them a sense of superiority. It's not my opinion, it's the jokes about my culture are always related to that point.

I see a lot of hidden arrogance in this country. Everybody hides the true them, everybody pretends to be progressive and tolerant but it's just BS.

I met people from other countries but in sweden I have seen that sense or we are better than you just because they make €2000 a month.

But this is a culture that is good at hidding and pretending problems are not real.
"We are the best country on earth". They repeat it a million times and then one day when it's no longer convinient silence and if you tell me they will deny they ever said that.
That's sweden.

This country is really good a marketing an image manipulation. One day they say something and then the other day deny it.

I cannot stand fakeness and superficial people or looking the other way when the whole system is an organized monopoly.



QUOTE (Uncle Fred @ 3.Mar.2019, 01:49 PM) *
You maybe right in many things you say, but what is your intention to do something about it. Its no good comming on this forum moaning, its like talking to the ally cat, you n ... (show full quote)


So you propose to just shut up and look the other way?.

It's the typical conformist mindset of "shut up".
If everybody complained then something will be done, but with your mindset of don't say anything of course bussines as usual.

In Spain we speak about the real problems that affect us. Spain is the opposite than sweden in that regard. You apparently don't know about my culture. There people raise their voice and forums are way more open to do critics.

In sweden they will tell you to shut up as you do it now.

People think swedes are progressive but it's a lie, this is the most repressive country in Europe and people seem to agree because individuals are not allowed to raise too many inconvenient questions.

But I agree with you this country won't change because this is passive mind control and the people have been indoctrinated to shut up and look the other way since they are very young.

Sweden is an ultra closed society with a top always watching and spying on individuals.
There is criticism because people are afraid of being kicked out from the group. Passive repression. Not my style.
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skogsbo
post 3.Mar.2019, 03:54 PM
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Pep... the wages you describe aren't that much and aren't really an example of a high achiever. So there are no bragging rights in any western or northern European country. Swedes know that wages are generally relative to cost of living, so I don't think anyone gets excited about that salary. I

Where sweden differs is the work life balance. But sweden clearly isn't for you, be it the work place, the culture, the climate. Countries vary and success is finding what suits you, that is the best country as we are all different.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 3.Mar.2019, 05:38 PM
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The Saga continues...

The only game in town...

Is this the best we can do???
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Bsmith
post 3.Mar.2019, 05:51 PM
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Joined: 25.Jun.2009

QUOTE (skogsbo @ 3.Mar.2019, 03:54 PM) *
Countries vary and success is finding what suits you, that is the best country as we are all different.



Exactly. Find what works for you. As bad as you claim Sweden to be, it is not a prison. You are free to leave.
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pepitoAndalucia
post 3.Mar.2019, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 3.Mar.2019, 06:38 PM) *
The Saga continues.... The only game in town.... Is this the best we can do???


So far you have done nothing old man, just play ball with the mafia.


QUOTE (Bsmith @ 3.Mar.2019, 06:51 PM) *
Exactly. Find what works for you. As bad as you claim Sweden to be, it is not a prison. You are free to leave.


Agree on that. I am trying to find solutions.
I think as always finding a job is the only problem. And that small problem is what shapes our lives and many decisions we make.

If you made 100k euros a year doing something that doesn't require having a job, would you be in sweden?. unsure.gif

There are better countries to live in and I am not referring to Spain. Germany, the UK, are very interesting ones. I have met people from my own country living in the middle east and south America and it worked for them.

But you have to agree with me sweden is not precisely an open country and this housing thing is pure monopoly.
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Uncle Fred
post 3.Mar.2019, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (pepitoAndalucia @ 3.Mar.2019, 03:07 PM) *
So you propose to just shut up and look the other way?.

No, you need to read. I told you what to do and that is get on your box and tell Sweden that it is full of numpty wankers and that YOU are going to put things right. DONT blame anyone but yourself.

You are a troll anyway.

Go on, off to Spain.
When your there let us know if you need any help putting that country right too.
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pepitoAndalucia
post 3.Mar.2019, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (Uncle Fred @ 3.Mar.2019, 07:43 PM) *
No, you need to read. I told you what to do and that is get on your box and tell Sweden that it is full of numpty wankers and that YOU are going to put things right. DONT blam ... (show full quote)



In sweden when someone tells thing straight that person is hate speech or a troll.

The thing is you feel comfortable with living in a country that has a monopolistic housing system that crashes people who cannot buy and then tell the people who raise questions that they are just trolls or like svedallas he calls me "miserable shit" but no moderator bans him from this forum.
But this is sweden and svedallas is allowed to insult because he plays with the system.

But sure thing I cannot change the minds of brainwashed people who think there is no problem at all or simply they look the other way to fit in the group.
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