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Equality for Islamic women!

At last a significant step forward!!!

Gamla Hälsingebock
post 9.Jan.2019, 12:57 AM
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How thoughtful, does this include "unfriending" too???



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/saudi-...4b0733528355379
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Uncle Fred
post 9.Jan.2019, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 9.Jan.2019, 12:57 AM) *
How thoughtful, does this include "unfriending" too???. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/saudi-...4b0733528355379

Sorry don't use sites where you cant opt out of cookies. So cant read it.

But here's a story about Islamic women.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46789875

Oh and this one.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46790542
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 9.Jan.2019, 02:01 AM
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Try "session only" cookies...
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BlackfDes
post 9.Jan.2019, 10:43 AM
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Shouldn't equality apply to ALL religions and reflect the female-to-male proportion of most populations [approximately 51:49]?

Why isn't there a female Pope? What about the Archbishop of Canterbury?

Which religions allow females to be pastors/priests/leaders?

Which religions allow same sex marriage and preside over them?

Which religions allow females choice over whether or not to have a baby in regards to birth control and abortion?

Its a mixed bag unfortunately and one of the many reasons I am an atheist!

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/...ous-leadership/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-...m=.1b1794c363f6
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Uncle Fred
post 9.Jan.2019, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE (BlackfDes @ 9.Jan.2019, 10:43 AM) *
Shouldn't equality apply to ALL religions and reflect the female-to-male proportion of most populations [approximately 51:49]?Why isn't there a female Pope? What about ... (show full quote)

All very good points, however the links only speak for the US and no where else.
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Bsmith
post 9.Jan.2019, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (BlackfDes @ 9.Jan.2019, 10:43 AM) *
control and abortion?. one of the many reasons I am an atheist!


It is sometimes very hard to have faith. If you believe in God as I do, sometimes it helps to remember that religion is man's attempt to explain something beyond his understanding.
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Bsmith
post 9.Jan.2019, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (Uncle Fred @ 9.Jan.2019, 01:17 AM) *
Sorry don't use sites where you cant opt out of cookies. So cant read it.But here's a story about Islamic women.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46789875Oh a ... (show full quote)



According to Sharia law, a woman's worth is 1/2 of a man. It takes two women to refute one man's testimony.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 9.Jan.2019, 02:59 PM
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I posted that as an example of kindness, understanding and the impact modern technical devices have on us today...

Divorce by texting!!!...Really???

Who said Islam was backward??? laugh.gif
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Uncle Fred
post 9.Jan.2019, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 9.Jan.2019, 02:00 PM) *
It is sometimes very hard to have faith. If you believe in God as I do, sometimes it helps to remember that religion is man's attempt to explain something beyond his understanding.

Is that the same as saying, someone who doesn't need good understands everything.
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BlackfDes
post 9.Jan.2019, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 9.Jan.2019, 02:00 PM) *
It is sometimes very hard to have faith. If you believe in God as I do, sometimes it helps to remember that religion is man's attempt to explain something beyond his understanding.


Yeah, nah! I am with Einstein on this one.

Einstein says: “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.” [3 January 1954]
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Uncle Fred
post 12.Jan.2019, 02:43 PM
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One more, don't you just love Islam.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-ea...revealing-dress
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Bsmith
post 12.Jan.2019, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (BlackfDes @ 9.Jan.2019, 04:38 PM) *
Yeah, nah! I am with Einstein on this one.Einstein says: “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collectio ... (show full quote)


I remember reading somewhere that Einstein, in his later years, came to be a believer of God. Also I think that the Bible is more than just a collection of stories. It is a blueprint for a successful society. The basic framework for most Western law come from the 10 commandments. And, of course, there is the Golden Rule: do onto others as you would have done to yourself. You really can't do much better than that for a standard to follow.
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BlackfDes
post 12.Jan.2019, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 12.Jan.2019, 03:57 PM) *
I remember reading somewhere that Einstein, in his later years, came to be a believer of God. Also I think that the Bible is more than just a collection of stories. It is a ... (show full quote)


He was agnostic. But you would have to ask him yourself if he was agnostic all his life when you get to Heaven [;-)], or do extensive research to be really sure. I read somewhere that he had a very short period of religious fervour [Judaism] when he was quite young, but then discovered science and became agnostic.
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Bsmith
post 12.Jan.2019, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (BlackfDes @ 12.Jan.2019, 06:50 PM) *
He was agnostic. But you would have to ask him yourself if he was agnostic all his life when you get to Heaven [;-)], or do extensive research to be really sure. I read some ... (show full quote)



You could be right. I will do some research and see if I can find the source of his religious convictions.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 12.Jan.2019, 09:40 PM
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Religions, their adherents, practices/rights and customs have always been to me a bit ambiguous and hard to understand...

I have always felt a bit sad when I think of young Egyptian boys growing up with the stigma and historical knowledge that their daddies were mummies too...
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