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Is impossible to find a qualified job here?

My GF doesn't find a job

Lix018
post 7.Nov.2017, 06:00 PM
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Dear colleges,

I am an MSc international student currently living in Sweden. After several months here, (previously as an Erasmus student) me and my girlfriend decided to try to stay here as long as we can. The university in where I am studying have already offered me the possibility of starting a PhD. However, things are becoming complex because my gf can't find a job.

She came to Sweden 2 months ago but she has been looking for a job here since May. After trying so hard finally she started to get interviews but with any result. A summary of her profile is as follows:

She speaks 5 languages: Spanish (native), Catalan (native), German (almost native), English (almost native), Italian (professional skills) and also she is learning Swedish by herself (currently she can write properly, reading the newspaper understanding almost complex audios and she is starting to speak fluent). She is excellent with languages, she holds as well a B2 level in french but she said that she can't speak properly (however she gets almost everything).

Moreover she has a really good education background : she finished a “licenciatura” in German Studies (which is the equivalent to a Bachelor+Master, the programme had 305 ECTS credits), she finished this year a degree in Journalism, Advertisement and Media (4 years programme, 240 ECTS credits), she has half of a MA in Graphic Design and Media Creation (30 credits) and a Diploma in Luxury and Fashion media management (another 30 credits).

In addition, she has been working since she started the second degree in her sector (Digital Marketing and Media), achieving almost 5 years of experience and even holding manager’s positions.

Despite of everything mentioned above she always is rejected in the last step of the selection process. Usually the reasons because she is rejected are:

1. She is overqualified (WTF?).
2. They have promote someone from inside the company.
3. No reasons, they just not "invite" her to the final interview.

I was wondering if someone of you could give us some recommendations because she is getting tired of trying so hard and we don't understand why she is rejected.
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flaneur
post 7.Nov.2017, 06:13 PM
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Location: Stockholm
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Honey, that’s some bad karma right there.
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yet another brit
post 7.Nov.2017, 08:55 PM
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Being able to speak all those languages, and having those particular qualifications, counts for nothing. She is operating in the Swedish market, in things that probably need local knowledge and fluent Swedish (how can you jump out of the frame in marketing, digital or otherwise, if you don't know the language & culture?). The excuses given are standard ones. Don't take them personally!

Look for jobs in internationally-facing roles, is some advice.
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Lix018
post 7.Nov.2017, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (yet another brit @ 7.Nov.2017, 08:55 PM) *
Being able to speak all those languages, and having those particular qualifications, counts for nothing. She is operating in the Swedish market, in things that probably need l ... (show full quote)


Hi another brit, she is having interviews with international companies or with companies that want to expand their business to Germany or UK. Of course she is going to improve her Swedish over the time, but we just do not understand why she is rejected if the Swedish knowledge does not appear even in the requirements or the pluses in the job offer.

Moreover, after being a couple of months here I don't understand how a Swedish graduate could be better than her. At least in my field (engineering), I have found Swedish engineers with huge shortage of knowledge, even the KTH ones, which it is supposed to be the best university here. Also, another friends that are studying in different fields around all Sweden told me the same.

I will encourage her to still trying in international companies. I hope that she will find something and I will wait for more advice.

Best Regards
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yet another brit
post 7.Nov.2017, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (Lix018 @ 7.Nov.2017, 09:40 PM) *
At least in my field (energy engineering), I have found Swedish engineers with huge shortage of knowledge, even the KTH ones, which it is supposed to be the best university he ... (show full quote)


Well, believing that the locals are the best isn't exactly unique to Sweden (at this point, I will retire quietly and let Gjeebes and the usuals weigh in).

Sweden is a small country, for sure.
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yuyu2809
post 9.Nov.2017, 04:47 PM
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Location: Umeå
Joined: 9.Nov.2017

QUOTE (Lix018 @ 7.Nov.2017, 09:40 PM) *
At least in my field (engineering), I have found Swedish engineers with huge shortage of knowledge, even the KTH ones, which it is supposed to be the best university here.


Sorry for deviating a little bit from the topic, but may I ask you what do you think of working as an engineer in Sweden?

I am in a similar situation than your girlfriend, except that my Swedish is an A1 level so far, and that I am an Aeronautical Engineer. I am limiting my search to Umea and Örnskoldsvik so far (and maybe that's why I haven't had many interviews), but do you think that, in Stockholm and around, there are better chances for a foreign engineer to get a job where a high level of Swedish is not required?

MVH.
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flaneur
post 9.Nov.2017, 04:55 PM
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Oh look at you bragging with all these references in a country where ”lagom” is the way of living. If she was bragging like that at those interviews, no wonder she never got any job. Sweden is not the place where you’re supposed to show them how good (or better) you are.

I didn’t even include architectural competitions that I won in my CV lol. Chill a bit. Nobody cares about her fluent German or Indonesian.

The only thing that matters is that she’s willing to make an effort to learn Swedish, not to brag about ”how we do it in my country” and to keep it simple.

Source: Got plenty of job offers here. biggrin.gif
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Bsmith
post 9.Nov.2017, 05:12 PM
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Here is a perfect example of the idiocy going on in Sweden. We've got an obviously intelligent and qualified person who would be an asset to many companies not to mention the country as a whole and who cannot find a job in Sweden and most likely will have to leave. But find an unemployed Syrian carpenter and the government will welcome him with open arms and supply him with two homes (one for each wife and family) and money for living expenses all in the name of cultural enrichment.

Go figure.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 9.Nov.2017, 06:31 PM
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Liberalism is a wonderful virtue, extolled by all that receive it's bounty...

When Swedish carpenters came to America, all they could do was build log cabins, and support themselves...not really up to Liberal standards...
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Svedallas
post 9.Nov.2017, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (yet another brit @ 7.Nov.2017, 08:55 PM) *
Being able to speak all those languages, and having those particular qualifications, counts for nothing. She is operating in the Swedish market, in things that probably need l ... (show full quote)


This is Sweden. And you need Swedish! All other languages are void here...

Also, she has no experience working in Sweden. That will also be a second challenge.

She could take years to get a job. Just be aware of that.

Read the many threads...
Or she could strike luck...real luck!
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Cheeseroller
post 9.Nov.2017, 07:24 PM
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Location: Germany
Joined: 10.Apr.2007

Ask her to send her CV to me at a throwaway email address: sandybeach968@gmail.com . I may have some part time work that matches some of her qualifications and experience.
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Gjeebes
post 9.Nov.2017, 08:20 PM
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Sweden really lacks opportunities, and standards. And why do you think it is that they are constantly advertising they are so hot with "equality" and other such things (hint: think sleazy used-car salesman). They can't afford to "allow" foreigners (not always, but in general) to show them up (easily done on many fronts, even without trying or realising).

Couple the xenophobia (Swedish multi-culti is a misguided joke...don't believe it is anything but mono-culture here) to the nepotism, and people like you and your GF "leave", promptly.

Don't waste your time trying to "make-it-work" in Sweden, it likely never will, and they don't deserve you anyhow. Try Germany, where you can have a decent career AND an interesting, fun, non-predictable social life that isn't contingent on joining bullshit clubs to make "awkward" and very boring "friends" (as in Sweden).

Take a hint, you saw it already at KTH, your friends see it elsewhere, and your GF is experiencing it also...it only gets worse the farther you get from so-called "prestigious" Swedish unis, and when you are smarter and more capable than your would be boss, you are truly screwed. (sure, that can happen anywhere, but in Sweden, it is much more likely).

Just get out and never look back.
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flaneur
post 9.Nov.2017, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 9.Nov.2017, 08:20 PM) *
Sweden really lacks opportunities, and standards. And why do you think it is that they are constantly advertising they are so hot with "equality" and other such thi ... (show full quote)


Honey I can’t help but admit that I enjoy reading your thoughts more than hanging out with Swedish people...including my b/f. biggrin.gif
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Genaro
post 10.Nov.2017, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 9.Nov.2017, 08:20 PM) *
Sweden really lacks opportunities, and standards. And why do you think it is that they are constantly advertising they are so hot with "equality" and other such thi ... (show full quote)


One the best summaries of Sweden I've seen for a while.
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Svedallas
post 10.Nov.2017, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 9.Nov.2017, 08:20 PM) *
Sweden really lacks opportunities, and standards. And why do you think it is that they are constantly advertising they are so hot with "equality" and other such thi ... (show full quote)


+1

And when they advertise. There is that 90% possibility that the position was already filled, internally. They just follow protocol as they "must" advertise.

And people question why they should be a part of a Union.
Go figure...

When there are more people than jobs, the job market is impossible.
Germany is your best bet. Or those skills will be wasted in a job you really do not want.
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