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Gun laws around the world

Discuss opinions on various aspects of gun laws

Bsmith
post 12.Sep.2019, 03:40 PM
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This guy sums it up very well for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6XTVuUP0Ho
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 12.Sep.2019, 04:25 PM
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Boy are you way off base!!!

How can a person that tells the truth and uses common sense to describe a social problem, be believed...

That's definitely not the Liberal way!!!

They should ban people with common sense too!!!
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Saywhatwhat
post 12.Sep.2019, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 12.Sep.2019, 04:40 PM) *
This guy sums it up very well for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6XTVuUP0Ho


I would love to ask this guy the question I will pose to you, since you seem to share in his belief...

The degradation of culture that he speaks of as being the culprit, the bad music, video games, social media, pornography, abortion (lol), the dissolving of family bonds as we retreat into our devices, etc.... the exposure to all this at a young age.... this is not unique to America and yet America has the highest death toll due to gun violence and mass/ school shootings. Why?

One thing that is obviously different, as a majority of the world knows, is that the gun laws are very loose.

Marilyn Manson toured Europe as well you know.
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Bsmith
post 12.Sep.2019, 10:57 PM
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Violent movies are more the rage in the US than in Sweden. Swedes consider that kind of stuff to be pornographic and the stuff the we prudish Americans think of as pornographic...ie the naked human body, Swedes do not.

I tend to side with the Swedes.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 12.Sep.2019, 11:27 PM
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What people conveniently do not mention is that the recent outbreak of violence is a relatively new social phenomenon...How convenient!!!
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Saywhatwhat
post 13.Sep.2019, 07:32 AM
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Bsmith
post 13.Sep.2019, 12:32 PM
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Banning guns will not get them out of the hands of criminals anymore than banning drugs has worked. You are delusional if you think so. And any gun legislation making it more difficult for people to buy guns does nothing to address the millions of guns that are already out there unless you are talking about house to house confiscation and if it ever gets to that point, all is lost.
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Saywhatwhat
post 14.Sep.2019, 09:01 AM
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Gjeebes
post 14.Sep.2019, 09:37 AM
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"Banning guns will not get them out of the hands of criminals"

Nonsense. Many of the crimes committed in the US are by people who obtain fully automatic assault rifles, legally. School shootings, mass shootings, etc.

Just look at Canada. Can't get hand-guns, can't obtain fully automatic assault rifles. Then compare the per capita gun crime between the US and Canada. You will quickly see your straw-man argument falls apart.

Toronto right now, for the past couple years, has seen a surge in gun crime. 5-6 shootings now on a single weekend. Previously unheard of. Guns smuggled in through the US, and used by US gangs that have been established in TO.

And arming citizens with hand-guns would mean nothing, since mostly these inbred ignorant and uneducated shits are simply killing each other for drug turf.

Canadians have loads of long guns, I think even more per capita than you Yanks, but gun crime in Canada is far, far lower, than in the US.

Now just why do you think that is?

Sure it's true that guns don't kill people, that people kill people. But in the US, if guns were much less easy to obtain, and MUGH more restricted and less available, then people who are killing people, wouldn't be using guns.

Personally, I'd be much happier to face assault by knife, or pretty much any other weapon, than by gun.
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Bsmith
post 14.Sep.2019, 10:29 AM
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Bsmith
post 14.Sep.2019, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 14.Sep.2019, 08:37 AM) *
Just look at Canada. Can't get hand-guns, can't obtain fully automatic assault rifles.



You cannot legally buy fully automatic weapons in the US, either.
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Saywhatwhat
post 14.Sep.2019, 11:20 AM
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Gjeebes
post 14.Sep.2019, 02:09 PM
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"You cannot legally buy fully automatic weapons in the US, either."

Yep you can. There are apparently 630,000 fully automatic machine guns in the hands of civilians, in the good ole us of A.

You can even have it mounted on your replica Vietnam era jeep, should you be literate enough to fill in the paperwork. Takes about a year to get one. Google it. ATF. 1986 and so on.

You can also buy tanks in one state, and the shells for them in another. That's why when one of your fine Amuricuhn fellows drove a tank into the centre of some TexMex "Spicy" spice town, then were wondering if the chamber was loaded too...next you'll tell me that didn't happen...

But as usual, BSmith, you have nothing to say, about anything.

If you don't cherry-pick a spelling error, whilst ignoring in totality the contents, you come up with other inventive ways, to essentially, say, nothing.
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Bsmith
post 14.Sep.2019, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 14.Sep.2019, 10:20 AM) *
Why is it you want to do nothing to stop an obvious American crisis? With an obvious correlation between our loose gun laws and death toll due to gun violence.



I didn't say I want to do nothing, but what you are proposing is just political hijinks and will not solve the problem.

For example, I am concerned with the Islamic terrorism crisis in America. Using your logic, the US government should enact strict Islamic immigration standards and background checks on all Muslims who are currently living or wish to live in the US. The US should adopt the same Islamic immigration policy as Japan has. Is that something you would be in favor of?
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Bsmith
post 14.Sep.2019, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 14.Sep.2019, 01:09 PM) *
Yep you can. There are apparently 630,000 fully automatic machine guns in the hands of civilians, in the good ole us of A.


Have any of these 630, 000 fully automatic machine guns that are in the hands of civilians been used in any mass shootings or other acts of violence? Certainly not to my knowledge. I guess your point is moot.
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