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Sweden isnt what a lot of people on here say it is

Mark249
post 27.Aug.2013, 08:32 AM
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Yeah maybe someone needs help for an internet addiction
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Mark249
post 27.Aug.2013, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE (Funfactory @ 27.Aug.2013, 07:31 AM) *
Well I guess I must be one of the chosen people. I don't speak a word of Swedish, I go in an English speaking program at Uni and a job is waiting for me when I graduate. ... (show full quote)

Yeah man, good stuff. You are on the right track.

Ignore that troll skogsbo, he has serious issues.
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xtenzion2
post 27.Aug.2013, 10:03 AM
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If you come as an immigrant to Sweden and adapt the Swedish way of life and take part in our tradition you will be soon accepted without any dramas.

Swedish people is very proud of their tradition and their religion and some is very proud of being a non believer.

But if you come from a country with very strong religious believes such as Islam, then Swedish people will treat you completely different. But once you get to know people and they see that your a good person then they will accept you.

The thing with Swedish people are that we strongly believe that our gender is equal (everything else for that matter...aka socialism) and a some Swedish people don't like people from middle east because they think that they don't treat their women right, that they try to control their children aka force marriages. Because of this Swedish people can sometimes treat you different if they think your on of them. But once they get now the person and see that they were wrong, then they will cool and will have no problem.

Racism is not a big problem, the race doesn't really matter these days (except a handful of full blown racist people) but it's more with the culture.
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Hisingen
post 27.Aug.2013, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (Funfactory @ 27.Aug.2013, 07:31 AM) *
Well I guess I must be one of the chosen people. I don't speak a word of Swedish, I go in an English speaking program at Uni and a job is waiting for me when I graduate. ... (show full quote)

QUOTE (Funfactory @ 27.Aug.2013, 07:52 AM) *
Well dude, I have never had any trouble with contracts, qualified work, doctors visits and so on in English here. Maybe when I have kids someday I'll bring them back here ... (show full quote)

One of the chosen people!
Just how egoistic can you get??
Yet you say you have Swedish nationality. Well since you plan moving to Germany, then may it happen soon, and perhaps you will have to learn German. Or will you try to be as selfish there?
Personally I feel that you are a very selfish person, expecting everyone to use a foreign language in their communication with you, who are a 'Swede'. Maybe you are more the English version of swede, namely a kålrot.

As for Skogsbo, I can appreciate the way he wants to work. In the hustle and bustle of life today, working alone can be a blessing. You make your own routines, plan your time as you want it, and enjoy peace and quiet without backchat or snide remarks or disturbances from those around you - as is not uncommon in workplaces no matter where.
Some are lone wolves, and work better that way if the choice is available. They can be the lucky ones.
But Mark249 calling him a troll is more than a little harsh, and could perhaps be the pot calling the kettle black.
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xtenzion2
post 27.Aug.2013, 11:00 AM
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Once someone is starting to work in Sweden you kind of have to speech a bit Swedish, otherwise you have problem, unless you working for company that only deals for english speaking customers, or a teacher that teaches in english, but for most jobs, you need to be able to speak a bit swedish.
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Mackan2017
post 27.Aug.2013, 12:11 PM
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[quote name='intrepidfox' date='25.Aug.2013, 06:28 PM' post='815852']
But isn´t that the same in every country. It usually is when one is young that a people cement a life long friendship. Later in life, friends come and go but usually not your childhood friends.

Childhood friends?? How wrong can you be??
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intrepidfox
post 27.Aug.2013, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (Mackan2017 @ 27.Aug.2013, 11:11 AM) *
Childhood friends?? How wrong can you be??

Why am i wrong?
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Hisingen
post 27.Aug.2013, 01:18 PM
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From my point of view, unfortunately you are wrong. But for a very different reason - -
Each time I am back in the UK I find more of my childhood friends are now resident in the village churchyard. In fact it makes for a depressing visit, but one I carry out due to respect for my parents and grandparents who are also resident there, and of the few old friends still living in the village. One of the disadvantages of advancing years I fear.
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skogsbo
post 27.Aug.2013, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Hisingen @ 27.Aug.2013, 09:13 AM) *
As for Skogsbo, I can appreciate the way he wants to work. In the hustle and bustle of life today,

cheers for the defence, but I have thick skin. Most are just bored or bitter people who are jealous of anyone living happily in Sweden.

Friends; It depends on your age. Friends to me are based on shared experiences. If you are young, say in 20s, then your biggest shared experience is school, so your home, uni or school friends are your supposed best friends.

Then you meet the real world and develop real friends who share the same interests, hobbies, jobs, neighbours etc. and this develops through the highs and lows of life over a few decades. Hit your 30/40s and unless you have a massive move or complete career change these friends are set for life.

School friends, they are always there, you go back and can be apart for years, then meet up and continue, or have catch up chats. But, that is all it is; catch up chats, your lives have separated, you don't have many, if any shared interests, jobs etc.. anymore. You just share life updates not real experiences, so they are a bit like facebook friends, not a real physical friendship, that still has actual events in it.
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Svensksmith
post 27.Aug.2013, 03:08 PM
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To move to a country and not try to learn the language or make any attempt to assimilate just seems arrogant and inconsiderate. It's as if you feel you are so superior that you cannot be bothered with such pettiness.
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Affonso
post 27.Aug.2013, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (xtenzion2 @ 27.Aug.2013, 09:03 AM) *
If you come as an immigrant to Sweden and adapt the Swedish way of life and take part in our tradition you will be soon accepted without any dramas. Swedish people is very pro ... (show full quote)

But I for one do not need your acceptance. smile.gif You did not personally invite me here, I am an EU citizen and I can do what I want. Nobody forced your people to join the EU, you voted for it.

What religion? Hardly anybody goes to church in Sweden except old people with one foot in the grave.

What traditions? You people hardly have any traditions. Come to Portugal and I will show you culture my friend.
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Affonso
post 27.Aug.2013, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (xtenzion2 @ 27.Aug.2013, 10:00 AM) *
Once someone is starting to work in Sweden you kind of have to speech a bit Swedish, otherwise you have problem, unless you working for company that only deals for english spe ... (show full quote)

None of my friends have problems finding qualified work and one of them works in finance, the man speaks very poor English and no Swedish. So as I said, if you are special then there is no need to learn swedish. Learning swedish is only for those who fall into the immigrant trap and start from zero with trying to play the game with Swedes.
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skogsbo
post 27.Aug.2013, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (Affonso @ 27.Aug.2013, 04:21 PM) *
What traditions? You people hardly have any traditions. Come to Portugal and I will show you culture my friend.

I suspect, that many Swedes and Immigrants would be happy for you to head back to your traditions.

QUOTE (Affonso @ 27.Aug.2013, 04:25 PM) *
Learning swedish is only for those who fall into the immigrant trap and start from zero with trying to play the game with Swedes.

included in the immigrant trap; the ability to talk with a neighbour, not needing doctor to work in a 2nd or 3rd language if you ever fall ill, or limiting yourself to only joining clubs which don't speak Swedish in Sweden. Sounds a very limiting lifestyle, perhaps if you spoke the lingo, you might discover the traditions you are currently unable to locate? wink.gif
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vicky7
post 27.Aug.2013, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (skogsbo @ 27.Aug.2013, 06:36 PM) *
I suspect, that many Swedes and Immigrants would be happy for you to head back to your traditions. included in the immigrant trap; the ability to talk with a neighbour, not ne ... (show full quote)

It is often part of the the expatriate lifestyle to mingle with likeminded people.
Integration works both ways if people want it, unfortunately many swedish people are often too lazy to integrate and blame everything on the immigrants and make excuses in the Swedish job market that you should know Swedish ( a code for they actually want an ethnic Swede).

And some people seem to forget that in a democracy, there are no obligations to bend over and assimilate. That is something the Nazis did.

So if people have certain preferences then let it be. They should not be dictated what about what they should like. Right skogsbo?
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Bender B Rodriquez
post 27.Aug.2013, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (Affonso @ 27.Aug.2013, 06:21 PM) *
What traditions? You people hardly have any traditions. Come to Portugal and I will show you culture my friend.

Been there, done that. Not much more than bland food. Rather go to Spain where the real culture is.
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