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Baffling Citizenship Case!

Can anyone recommend a decent attorney?

PHobbes
post 17.Sep.2016, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 14.Sep.2016, 02:18 PM) *
Did you apply for UK residency in the UK? If so you could have a right to UK citizenship, and apply to be a EU resident in Sweden - which is still valid until Brexit.Indeed it ... (show full quote)


I've looked into that of course. Unfortunately I cannot apply for residency without an in-date EU passport... Maddening!

Thanks a lot, hopefully I'll get this sorted, and have some kind of explanation.
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Scottish
post 4.Nov.2016, 12:35 PM
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@PHobbes. so how it is going with you case?
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MIKEJT111
post 22.Dec.2016, 08:28 PM
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tough situation. you could apply for British citizenship and then move here to Sweden before BREXIT happens. Then do your five years and become a citizen that way. You must have a personnummer if you had a passport which is an advantage over most when they move here from within the EU. Just a thought!
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JLee
post 27.Mar.2018, 12:34 PM
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Hi, my partner is in a very similar situation to you. He was issued a Swedish passport at 24 and now 10 years later it has been refused on the grounds of insufficient cohabitation in Sweden under the age of 22. Did you get your Swedish passport renewed eventually? Thanks
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Phafin
post 12.Oct.2018, 08:17 PM
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Another guy in your situation, let me know if you found a good lawyer. I’m in Denmark and I work in shipping, I leave the country every day. Slightly panicking about Swedish incompetence right now.
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Cedar2
post 13.Oct.2018, 09:34 PM
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Surely, a change in Law can't affect the old case. The main principle is that the Law can't work backwards.
The truth and funny is; skattvarket and immigration have conflicting interpretation of the Law, it is something difficult for a lay person to understand.
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PHobbes
post 29.Oct.2018, 10:48 AM
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Hello All,

Wow, it's been a couple of years since I started this topic, and it seems to have gotten a few views. Apologies for not responding earlier but I have been embroiled in trying to find a way out of this mess.

I have now worked with 2 attorneys, both specialists in citizenship law, and spent quite a lot of money... to no avail.

The first attorney's idea was to try reapplying for my passport at the London Embassy, and then when that was rejected, we could start another appeals process. Well, I had to fight my corner at the Embassy just to submit the application. They kept insisting that I had lost my citizenship when I was 22, to which I held up my passport pointing to the fact that it was clearly issued when I was 25 after I had gone through the process of regaining it, etc etc.

I got the application submitted in the end, and of course it was rejected, so I thought finally an appeal will be made by a specialist attorney who will be able argue with knowledge of the law. Unfortunately it made no difference as it wasn't even deemed worthy of going to the court of appeals itself.

I then had a minor freakout, and my attorney admitted she had run out of ideas. Ok, fine... (but not really fine). However, she put me in touch with the Centrum for rattvisa, who recommended I contact one of their former attorneys, which I did. He seemed positive after hearing the details of my case, and agreed to take over the appeal. Long story short, his appeal came to nought, and again wasn't even taken to the court of appeals. His next advice was to start a civil litigation case against the passport officials, and so I left it off, not having endless stores of cash to burn on a civil litigation suit against a government agency.

The one positive bit of noise I've had from a Swedish official came from the Minister of Justice, who after hearing about my case, assured me in writing that citizenship cannot be withheld or revoked, even if it is granted by mistake. And that is precisely what the Migrationsverket claims, that I was mistakenly granted citizenship and a passport when I applied for them in 2005. But it's all good and well saying a certain thing, but it's another thing trying to get anyone to act on it!

So I seem to be stuck at an impasse. A couple years on and I'm exactly in the same place, and have no idea how to proceed. If legal professionals can't come up with any good ideas, what chance have I to come up with anything on my own?

It's obviously been a disaster for my professional and personal lives, but I won't go into all that. I'm not hoping to get anything by sharing this, I have no political motive or any other agenda, I'm just putting it out there to show what I see as the pure negligence and incompetence on the part of public offices, in my experience.

Thanks for reading, and again, apologies for not updating sooner for those who asked.

All the best,
PH
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Cedar2
post 2.Nov.2018, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (PHobbes @ 29.Oct.2018, 11:48 AM) *
Hello All,Wow, it's been a couple of years since I started this topic, and it seems to have gotten a few views. Apologies for not responding earlier but I have been embro ... (show full quote)

I'm sorry for you. Swedish offices has a lot of incompetent officers. I'm sure that you were given a passport by mistake but that wasn't your problem and nullifying it is as well amounts to breaking the Law since there is no legal provision that allows them to revoke a citizenship.
Lawyers may not help you so much since the Law here is mostly administrative. Lawyers mostly work as secretaries, they don't advocate, they only write to request.
I'm not sure If I have any advice for you since you have been through all possible ways, but it is something sad. I hope you get a way through this.
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Svedallas
post 2.Nov.2018, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (PHobbes @ 29.Oct.2018, 10:48 AM) *
Hello All,Wow, it's been a couple of years since I started this topic, and it seems to have gotten a few views. Apologies for not responding earlier but I have been embro ... (show full quote)


You and your mother had 22 years to get your citizenship sorted out.
Don't blame Sweden for your misfortune.

The law is pretty standard.
You were very ver lucky that they had issued in error - even though you had well passed the timeline to claim it.

In summary. Dont blame Sweden for your problems. Blame yourself.
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wallace1837
post 3.Nov.2018, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 2.Nov.2018, 11:29 PM) *
You and your mother had 22 years to get your citizenship sorted out.Don't blame Sweden for your misfortune.The law is pretty standard. You were very ver lucky that they ha ... (show full quote)

When Sweden does stupid things, blame Sweden. When Sweden makes a mistake, blame Sweden. When Sweden is incoherent, blame Sweden.

Should you ever trust Sweden after that, blame yourself... But for now, blame Sweden.
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Svedallas
post 3.Nov.2018, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE (wallace1837 @ 3.Nov.2018, 01:42 AM) *
When Sweden does stupid things, blame Sweden. When Sweden makes a mistake, blame Sweden. When Sweden is incoherent, blame Sweden.Should you ever trust Sweden after that, blame ... (show full quote)



Wallace you are not even Swedish in any way. You are a miserable dude battling a failed work permit.

Leave Sweden already, you're not wanted.
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Cedar2
post 3.Nov.2018, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 3.Nov.2018, 12:29 AM) *
You and your mother had 22 years to get your citizenship sorted out.Don't blame Sweden for your misfortune.The law is pretty standard. You were very ver lucky that they ha ... (show full quote)

Since when did luck become a processional or policy? The best statement would be that, someone who issued him a passport was unprofessional and probably got a job because of nepotism.
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PHobbes
post 5.Nov.2018, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 2.Nov.2018, 10:29 PM) *
You and your mother had 22 years to get your citizenship sorted out.Don't blame Sweden for your misfortune.The law is pretty standard. You were very ver lucky that they ha ... (show full quote)


Ok, I'll bite, even though it's probably a waste of time. From your tone it appears that you are already an expert on my situation and that you've clearly cast your judgement about it.

I did in fact look into it before 22, but at that time there was no recognition of dual nationality between Sweden and the US. Some years later, I researched again and learned that the law had changed. It was then that I contacted the Migrationsverket to inquire into the possibility of regaining citizenship, even though I was past the age. I was advised to contact my local consulate, which I did. The Consular General told me that in some instances exceptions can be made, depending on a few factors, and that I should come in for an interview, and then submit an application to see.

Throughout the entire application process I was advised and guided by Swedish officials. The application was reviewed and approved by Swedish officials and my passport was issued by Swedish officials. Then, when I went to renew the passport, it was rejected by Swedish officials. I would happily accept blame, as you suggest, if I had issued myself a passport in the name of Sweden, but sadly that's beyond my position to do so.

And just to be clear, I'm not blaming 'Sweden'. I have nothing against Sweden, or the Swedish government, or Swedes, or anybody really. But I have a serious problem with being dealt with in such an incoherent, inconsistent manner that it undermines my ability to carry on with a normal life. Issuing a passport to someone, and then a few years later saying 'oops, sorry you weren't meant to have that', is an erratic and frankly embarrassing way of going about the very serious matter if issuing a passport, and nobody would or should accept such a thing.

Please troll elsewhere.
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PHobbes
post 6.Nov.2018, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (Cedar2 @ 2.Nov.2018, 07:45 PM) *
I'm sorry for you. Swedish offices has a lot of incompetent officers. I'm sure that you were given a passport by mistake but that wasn't your problem and nullifyin ... (show full quote)


Thanks very much, that's about as good an explanation as anyone has been willing to give me!
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