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'Instagram slut shaming riot was healthy'

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post 19.Dec.2012, 05:54 PM
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Swedish journalist and lecturer Sofia Mirjamsdotter thinks the Instagram riot says little about the modern age, and everything about ancient structures of bullying and sexual hypocrisy. But it could also herald change.

When I was a teenager in the 80s, it was common to find sexist graffiti in the bathrooms at my schools. It wasn't rare to find that someone had called a girl a whore or a slut. Or that people left comments about their appearance for all to see.

As I recall, none of the adults ever commented on these public messages left on the school walls. I can't remember a single teacher addressing the content of the scribbles, nor discuss what they said about dignity and respect and how we treat each other.

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RobinHood
post 20.Dec.2012, 09:58 AM
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Ms Mirjamsdotter's intelligent piece fails to cover two important points.
Firstly, it's one thing to make a "healthy expression" of outrage against bullying, it's quite another to hunt down a girl, beat her half to death, and then hang her from a lamp post. There was no beating or hanging only because a quick thinking teacher hustled the girl out the back door.
Secondly, the angry mob were not the victims of bullying, healthily expressing themselves. The mob were the actual bullies themselves. They thought their postings to the Facebook and Instagram accounts would be anonymous, but in fact they were public and they were exposed as the nasty backstabbers that they are.
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Mxzf
post 20.Dec.2012, 10:04 AM
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"I can't remember a single teacher addressing the content of the scribbles, nor discuss what they said about dignity and respect and how we treat each other"
You forget that at that time, teachers weren't there to raise the kids, like they seem to be these days. When we were in school, teachers were there to help us grasp the school subjects. Raising kids were left to parents or fritidsledare (or in worst case, kurator or psychiatrist).
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djkroo
post 20.Dec.2012, 12:29 PM
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post 20.Dec.2012, 12:45 PM
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Nomark
post 20.Dec.2012, 05:01 PM
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This is a bizarre article. As pointed out above the demonstration was actually an attempt to mob one person; as such it resembled a lynch mob rather a principled stand. Furthermore, the demonstrators consisted in no small part of bullies who had their anonymity removed and were annoyed about this.
Furthermore, the internet played a crucial role in all of this; perhaps even the key role. Previously, this type of bullying was localised. A far greater community is now involved and, as seen above, involves the systematic removal of an anonymity which someone who scrawls on a toilet wall need not fear.
In amongst all of this there were of course some people there who genuinely concerned about the whole issue of mobbing. However, the author ought to remove her rose tinted glances and see it for what it is rather than what she would like it to be.
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redfish
post 20.Dec.2012, 06:41 PM
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When people get offended about the idea of telling the girls they should change their behavior, it reminds me of Americans who get offended by the idea that their foreign policy causes enemies abroad.
No, Americans aren't responsible for terrorists who kill them, and girls aren't responsible for people who bully them. But a "war on bullying" won't end bullying more than a "war on terrorism" will end terrorism. Bullies will always exist, terrorists will always exist.
"Ancient social structures". Please. In her ancient history of bullying, the author starts in the 1980s. Yet, when parents and school teachers had less tolerance for lewd behavior by students, they also had less tolerance for shaming and name-calling.
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godnatt
post 21.Dec.2012, 02:39 PM
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Yes, public lynchings and vigilantism are very healthy things...
I didn't see crowds of girls out there "protesting". It was a crowd of thugs looking for blood.
Once again the violent offenders are victims according to the sheltered lefties safe in fortress Vasastan.
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Lars Porsenna
post 23.Dec.2012, 01:25 AM
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Sure; it would have been even healthier if the police had beaten the soul out of those "protesters".
>The riot in Gothenburg is a healthy expression of teenagers refusing to accept that
>others have the right to name, shame, and abuse them.
I still can't understand how healthy can be a angry mob that in search of a scapegoat would not mind of beating an innocent in the street. (And I can't see the connection with jumping on cars).
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*Guest*
post 27.Dec.2012, 10:43 PM
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The slut-shaming itself IS a questioning of values - the values of licentiousness and loose sexuality where any sense of spirituality and sacredness of ones sexual persona is thrown away and girls/boys act out as animalistic - in the sexual realm. Any Tom , Dick or Harry will do and why be so narrow-minded as to exclude the basketball team ! ... freedom !
While sex is not a perversity ...the animalistic and 'anyone can do me' type attitudes are not sex at all ...but a spiritual perversity.
kudo's to those who Do possess values, are affronted by casually perverse sexuality ... and are willing to call a slut ...a slut. Notice that the offended 'sluts' want to be left completely free from criticism or outing ...in fact...they appear only too willing to beat their critics senseless. Freedom doesn't reach as far as disagreeing and pointing out people's actions that you do not agree with.
Everyone in their social circles apparently knows what these girls are up to ...they are no doubt locally famous ...at least with all the boys ...so why be ashamed ?
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Bentham
post 3.Jan.2013, 12:11 AM
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@mungo
according to what i've read nobody knew these girls personally. it started out with an argumentation between somone/some people and the girl who got to take the blame. according to her her antagonists had created an facebook account with her name to make it look like she had spread all the (false) rumours and then the snowball began rolling with an call to demonstration which then was used by hoards of stupid thugs that had nothing to do with it other than just for the sake to make a riot.
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jvtx3232
post 4.Jan.2013, 04:58 PM
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Typical lefty twit. Imagine! Defending & rationalizing rioting, disturbing of the peace, violence, property destruction, and other sundry offenses associated with this immigrant riot! That's pretty sick. Her article is without value.
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