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Weed in Sweden

Moving from Australia and would like some info.

SmokerT69
post 7.Jun.2018, 02:05 PM
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Considering how liberal Sweden is, I just assumed weed would be normal here. Boy was I wrong lol. I lived most of my life in the Caribbean and you can't walk down the street without smelling it. Kids use to smoke up in school during the lunch break. Somehow we got on the topic of it with my wife's family who are all Swedish. You would think I was the devil, lol. I haven't smoked in probably a decade but I did smoke a bit during my teen years.

But then again, even alcohol is looked down on. Being British and being in the British army, we have always had a drinking culture. It's completely normal to have pint after work or even drink during the weekdays. My wife said her friends think I'm an alcoholic because I have a beer or two while BBQing or ask them if they want to meet at the pub after work on a Thursday to catch up.
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Saywhatwhat
post 16.May.2019, 04:40 PM
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They still think it’s the devils lettuce.
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joshr
post 17.May.2019, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 6.Jun.2018, 10:58 AM) *
Melatonin, also known as N-acetyl-5-methoxy tryptamine, is a hormone that is produced by the pineal gland in animals and regulates sleep and wakefulness. (Wikipedia). I get a ... (show full quote)


Melatonin is actually prescription based in Sweden (and actually the whole EU from what I can tell). The medical community is starting to accept it - 10 years ago they had never heard of it.
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yet another brit
post 18.May.2019, 11:44 AM
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If you are really desperate for melatonin, you have your very own source available 24/7:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1331...he-stress-away/

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Bsmith
post 18.May.2019, 12:15 PM
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Interesting, but if I need melatonin, I think I'd rather take a pill.
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cootje1976
post 18.May.2019, 11:27 PM
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Location: Uppsala county
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Weed is frowned upon in this so called 'liberal' state. Thought as well in the beginning that it was allowed, but nope.
Been caught twice with a joint, but didn't get a fine or arrested. Not even a write-up.
1st time I got caught, I was here on a short vacation before moving here finally a year later. As a Dutchman, I am used to legal weed in the most liberal countries; Netherlands, Portugal, and the a handful more.

There is no difference here; in the Netherlands we distinguish between hard and softdrugs, and weed falls in the soft category, and is government controlled, and taxed accordingly.

On the contrary to what many people do think,even though it is legal, we are not a nation of stoners ((at least not all the time), but jokes aside, it remains purely recreational, no one lives on this stuff where I am from, only people with certain chronic conditions, or cancer. And then it is prescribed anyways.

Coming from that culture it is difficult to understand the reasoning of Swedes in general, who usually go buccwild on booze whenever there is a party.
It is also considered a gateway drug; a opportunity for people to start using so called stronger substances, but the way the majority of the Dutch see it, is that a large portion of that group are idiots, because no 'high' is the same.

Most important, what is being done in Holland, is that people get educated on drugs, because we talk about it more openly and use it openly as well ( not in front of kids, of course). Due to that I think that people over there can handle it better than the Swedes, to whom this is taboo...

Anyhow Swedish people know to find their (soft) drugs anyway, but the quality of the weed here is superbad. Once a year a quality joint in Amsterdam is fine for me. What addiction?

In Sweden, the nature is fine (what I came for), but most people?!...
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 19.May.2019, 12:05 AM
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The description as a "gateway" drug is most interesting to me, as an older person I was exposed to it over 65 years ago in New York City...

In the 9th grade two of my classmates OD'ed on the hard stuff...guess what they started on???

I am sure such incidents are a big reason for the Swedish people to fear, yes I said that...early usage of that drug...

And I know of heavy users that suffered and died from lung cancer...

I myself learned by seeing what happened to my classmates and have never used any recreational drug except alcohol and will admit I am close to your description of how the Swedes use it...it's a genetic thing... laugh.gif
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cootje1976
post 19.May.2019, 06:49 AM
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Location: Uppsala county
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 19.May.2019, 12:05 AM) *
The description as a "gateway" drug is most interesting to me, as an older person I was exposed to it over 65 years ago in New York City...In the 9th grade two of my ... (show full quote)



I guess the difference is that in the Netherlands at that age that your classmates of on heavy stuff, drugs is a topic in school, and openly talked about. As I said as well the highs are different. Those classmates of yours may just have been experimenting, which is kind of the age that kids do it anyways, so that is of no relevance, knowing the limits of education in the US regarding that topic. In my country that rarely happened, and if it does it is because they were looking for higher thrills and went too far.

As I said the highs are different. We have a proper education system in place that makes sure that people are informed and make the correct choices;
How do we do that? Education! Make sure kids know why it is what is it and to make a correct choice to either use it or in the case of using to talk about it, and that is the Dutch mentality that we do talk publicly about anything. It is kind of in our core.

In case you we wondering about potheads in the Netherlands, there aren't that many. We have a lot of recreational usage, and I seriously don't think that the majority of people that use it on average once every 2 months can be considered a potheads; on the contrary it shows that it is not as addictive as one might think; and I rather have a stoner than a drunk anyday, hands on.
Stoners are relaxed, have the munchies, are usually very happy, and do not exibit any involuntary bowel movements. I have my pick ready...

Cancer I was referring to not that cannabis is a cure, but it makes, thanks to it's properties, the cancer a bit more manageable for patients, even if they lose the battle at some point.

We have a simple mindset: my body is my property and no government or person can tell me what to do with it; as long as I am not causing any harm to others and people around me I should be able to do what I please. I can treat my body as a temple, or a house party. My pick.

And even though we have legal weed, legal prostitution, and other things that are illegal elsewhere, thing do not run out of control in those legal areas, yes there is hard drugs and turf wars because of that, but on the legalized part it is all fine and dandy.
I did realize in my short time here now that Sweden likes to 'protect' it's citizens, but maybe that protection should be done more on the Social economic side, an consumer protection; for a Socialised State those 2 things are lacking...
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Bsmith
post 19.May.2019, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE (cootje1976 @ 19.May.2019, 06:49 AM) *
We have a simple mindset: my body is my property and no government or person can tell me what to do with it; as long as I am not causing any harm to others and people around m ... (show full quote)



This is only true to the extent that you are your own responsibility. If you rely on the government to pay for your healthcare because you effed up your body treating it like a house party, then I beg to differ. Or if you spend all your money on weed and neglect your children and the state has to pick up the slack. The government does not make money. It only takes money from some and gives to others and if it is taking money from me to give to you so you can live a party hardy lifestyle...then I have the right to speak up.

From reading your posts, I know that you are responsible and this doesn't apply to you but we have all seen people who abuse the system.
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john.boy
post 19.May.2019, 12:18 PM
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Location: Stockholm county
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QUOTE (SmokerT69 @ 7.Jun.2018, 02:05 PM) *
Considering how liberal Sweden is, I just assumed weed would be normal here. Boy was I wrong lol.



QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 16.May.2019, 04:40 PM) *
They still think it’s the devils lettuce.


You might just find you are both wrong cool.gif
It is everywhere, and some years ago the police even declared that there is now so much domestic production that the crime gangs no longer have need of imports! This is most likely a result of such strict alcohol politics that, especially for teens, it is easier and cheaper than buying booze.

Why you might not have come across this is more to do with the fear of the crusading moral police (and media) from the left of center, who will try to destroy your life once you do things they do not approve of. This is why many of the opinions of politicians and media that spout the correctness and moral high-ground of Swedes, is absolute rubbish, it is that the Swedish population does the opposite yet is afraid of that moral minority, so keep it quiet(ish) rolleyes.gif
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Saywhatwhat
post 19.May.2019, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (john.boy @ 19.May.2019, 01:18 PM) *
You might just find you are both wrong It is everywhere, and some years ago the police even declared that there is now so much domestic production that the crime gangs no lo ... (show full quote)


Yes it is around. A dog knows how to sniff. And what inconsistencies in quality and quantities around at any given time.

I’m more REFERing to the policy... the policy which has prompted a majority of the gun violence in Sweden I would say.
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