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Why No Thread About UK Counter Terrorist Screw-Up?

MI5 Hasn't Changed Much Since Peter Wright's Days

Model T Ford
post 26.Mar.2017, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (Uncle Fred @ 25.Mar.2017, 05:56 PM) *
And from that you would have gathered that he was going to hire a car on a precise day and mow down innocent people at a precise time at precise place, god your to good for this planet.


Yes, I would have, especially when six or seven years ago when he came on MI5's radar apparently when it tried to stictch him up as the murderer of the British tourists visiting France, the al-Hillis, in the summer of 2012, like how it turned the 7/7 Crawley internet users during Operation Crevice into mass murderers.

The bastards wll never figure out what makes depressed people into vicious killers if they don't factor in what they are attempting. rolleyes.gif
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Model T Ford
post 26.Mar.2017, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE (Model T Ford @ 26.Mar.2017, 12:43 PM) *
Yes, I would have, especially when six or seven years ago when he came on MI5's radar apparently when it tried to stictch him up as the murderer of the British tourists vi ... (show full quote)


Even Harry Ferguson, a former MI6 officer, thinks that Masood should have been under surveillance, and Masood went to considerable lengths of slip any suspected followers by renting the vehicle after spending the night in a Brighton hotel.

See article in Sunday Express.

Sure wouldn't hire any of you loons to do the job!
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Bsmith
post 27.Mar.2017, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (Model T Ford @ 26.Mar.2017, 12:01 PM) *
Sure wouldn't hire any of you loons to do the job!



Right back at ya.
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Uncle Fred
post 27.Mar.2017, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (Model T Ford @ 26.Mar.2017, 02:01 PM) *
Even Harry Ferguson, a former MI6 officer, thinks that Masood should have been under surveillance, and Masood went to considerable lengths of slip any suspected followers by r ... (show full quote)


OK lets look at it your way, yes follow his every move. Let's pick up the point where he hires the car, what do you do stop from hiring a car, no you cant. Next follow him in the car from Brighton, do you stop him now, no you have no grounds too.
You are following him as he approaches Westminster bridge, do stop him now, if you do you let him go because you don't know his next move.
He accelerates to 76mph, now you know something is wrong, do you try to pass him on Westminster Bridge.
No you get the machine guns out, it doesn't matter about other people in the area at least you may get him.
Now "Loons" are people who believe in fantasy.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Mar.2017, 05:26 PM
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I repeat:

"Every body knows you cannot defend against those that do not care to live and death is an honour to be achieved"...
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Moosedog
post 27.Mar.2017, 09:15 PM
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Mi5 have 3000 not 300 on their radar, if you have 24 hr surveillance it takes 30 agents per suspect, you do the maths? it's a matter of economics. Over the last two years the Mi5 has thwarted 13 attacks, they seem to be doing something right
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Model T Ford
post 28.Mar.2017, 11:51 AM
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Not going to waste my time on you ignorant lot.

Nothing, of course, about what apparent former MI6 agent Henry Ferguson wrote.

Yes, I didn't link it, and underline what you should note about what he wrote, and add what he didn't.

You'll have to wait for the next British counterterrorist fiasco,
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Uncle Fred
post 28.Mar.2017, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (Model T Ford @ 28.Mar.2017, 12:51 PM) *
Not going to waste my time on you ignorant lot.Nothing, of course, about what apparent former MI6 agent Henry Ferguson wrote.Yes, I didn't link it, and underline what you ... (show full quote)

You've got some front calling everybody that disagrees with you ignorant. It's more like the other way around.
Now instead of wasting everyone's time why don't twaddle off and join MI5 if they will have you.
They really need people like you, you know bright sparks that know more than they do.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 28.Mar.2017, 05:29 PM
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Doesn't MI5 and the CIA have a "contract" out on Mr. Ford???
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 28.Mar.2017, 05:53 PM
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But...

Ya gotta believe!!! rolleyes.gif unsure.gif
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Model T Ford
post 28.Mar.2017, 06:22 PM
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The CIA certainly has one, and I would never would go again to the UK for fear of what its coppers would do to me for my claims about what happened to Palme, SNLL leader Willie McRae, the snoops at the Mull of Kintyre helicopter crash, et al.
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Model T Ford
post 29.Mar.2017, 03:48 PM
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Prime Minister May is gambling most recklessly that the EU doesn't know about real European security by hastily triggering Article 50 to get out, thinking that it isn't aware that the UK has one of the worst records on the subject, like the 7/7 disasters and now the Westminster Bridge terror, plus helping trigger the 3/11 bombings in Madrid in 2004, and the Breivik ones in Stockholm and Oslo in 2011 and 2012.. And where would matters be if it had had to take in more immigrants?
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Model T Ford
post 29.Mar.2017, 04:24 PM
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The Breivik inspired bombings occurred in 2010 and 2011..
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Bsmith
post 29.Mar.2017, 07:20 PM
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If MTF is in his 90's, why should the CIA take over and do Father Time's job?
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Model T Ford
post 29.Mar.2017, 08:42 PM
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I am 87, and am well prepared to die.

Just amazed at the Brits lack of interest in what their compatriots, police, and intelligence services are doing at their expense.

There is a line from the the heist of the Auschwitz entrance sign, the Stockholm Christmas bombings, British terrorist efforts by neo-Nazis and the EDL, Anders Breivik's massacre, and the killings of the al-Hillis et al. which the British coppers and spooks worked to blame all on Khalid Masood, poor counterterrorist work by Europe's SIS, Masood being the chief terrorist in Luton of the Norwegian attacks, and Saad al-Hillli being his successor in Claygate, England,

May's quick triggering Article 50 is hoped to help keep this covered up after what he did in Westminster.
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