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Three gun crimes a day in Sweden

Kantor
post 6.Sep.2005, 10:43 PM
Post #16
Joined: 4.Sep.2005

People, what are you complaining about here. I listen to news from South America. In Venezuela to give you an example; every week there are between 25 to 30 murders (not assault) I said murders. And these are news reports from the country's press itself.
México, that's another story. The count there is lost. To tell you that if you think Venezuela is bad, I have to inform you that today what is called Mexico D.F. (the capital) it is considered the WORST and most unsafe city in the world. Yet listen to these guys in USA protesting when we try to stop this assault on our sovereingty which takes place every day in our south of the border.
Don your comment as usual; Excellent.
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Kantor
post 6.Sep.2005, 11:24 PM
Post #17
Joined: 4.Sep.2005

Hey there went THE LOCAL to suppress my comment showing factual
data about the CRIMINALITY in HUGO CHAVEZ'S Venezuela. Average 30 MURDERS a week
Covering your communist pal's back eh?
Never mind criminality in Sweden. The practise of censorship it is a bigger crime and that your record should be denounce.
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Kantor
post 7.Sep.2005, 12:13 AM
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Joined: 4.Sep.2005

The "supressor" I meant The Local! has censored two of my comments. Never disappointment us.
Just for saying that if you people think crime is getting bad in Swden wait till you hear about Mexico and Venezuela. The former considered today the most dangerous in the world (crime and kidnapping). In Venezuela 30 people a week get shot and killed. This is not counting thw ones wounded and another ways of killing like stabbing or beating.
That's all. It bothers them this bad news about their pal Chavez' paradise!!!
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*Kantor Ii*
post 7.Sep.2005, 12:27 AM
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And what can we say about the crime of CENSORHIP.

I have been censored today twice by The Local. Just for saying that there are places worst than the crime in Sweden.
Mexico is considered the most dangerous place in the world for kidnapping and murders. Venezuela reports at least 30 crimes a week, just with the victims shot. It does not comprise other killings by stabbing and beatings.
It seems to be that those disclosed figures about their communist pal General Chavez The Local try to protect the real situation in that country.
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*Franco Frescovaldi*
post 7.Sep.2005, 01:59 AM
Post #20


The situation all over Europe is getting very serious and part of the blame has to be put in the unbridled immigration we are letting to arrive here. Socialism will have to answr one day before history for this crime against our culture.
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MarkR
post 7.Sep.2005, 08:26 AM
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Joined: 27.Sep.2004

Obviously some people consider the rules of discussion here at this site, as apply in most discussion forums, do not apply to them!

Considering you actually did agree to the terms and conditions of the forum when you submitted your post why do you continue to complain when you post is deleted for not complying?
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Swedeofile
post 7.Sep.2005, 09:23 AM
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Joined: 16.Jan.2005

Wait a minute! We are talking about criminals commiting gun crimes in Sweden NOT arms exports from one country to another. The point is criminals are using guns and worse now more then ever before. The penalties need to go up for their use.
The idiodic logic mentioned here about arms exports so the average person on the street in Sweden is getting what they deserve because some westrn countries have arms manufacturers is plain stupid I am sorry to say. You may not agree that is what the logic of saying this is, but that is what its logical conclusion is from the way it was written. The point is guns and grenades are terrible weapons and the Government and police have now one big problem on their hands. Perhaps tougher penalties mixed with severe rebuke by the general public would see the problem reduced. Also I don't think criminals are neccesarily from one religion but there are an awful lot of Balkan criminals in Sweden!
I believe there are not many people in Sweden who would not like to see this problem sorted out fast.
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Pharazon
post 7.Sep.2005, 01:10 PM
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Joined: 21.Jul.2005

Sweden is the biggest arms-exporter per capita.
What is exported is anti-tank weapons, fighter planes, artillery, radars, infantry fighting vehicles, armored terrain vehicles, assault boats and so on. Hardly something you use to rob a bank...

And this is to western nations. Swede does not export to dictatorships, like some other countries do.
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Gower76
post 7.Sep.2005, 01:16 PM
Post #24
Joined: 5.Sep.2005

QUOTE (Swedeofile)
We are talking about criminals commiting gun crimes in Sweden NOT arms exports from one country to another...


But Swedeofile, the article made a point about the guns coming in from the Balkans. Nobody's saying that Swedes are getting what they deserve but there might be a sense of 'what goes around comes around'. Karma, if you like.

But like you, I hope that the problem is sorted out fast - although frankly I can't see how it will be.
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*Nigel E.j. Griffiths*
post 7.Sep.2005, 02:17 PM
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The UK is having to deal with the same problem. The difference being, in the UK the law enforcement is far more effective than it is here. So, the root causes cannot be handled if the justice system does not re-define the role of the police. That will not happen when Sweden still has a socialistic government in place and a justice minister who swings from right to left without ever achieving anything. And now another escape and, this person is dangerous. He escaped yesterday and, 24 hrs later the public are informed. Justice minister its time to...go and don't look back
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*John*
post 7.Sep.2005, 02:21 PM
Post #26


People's right to bear arms shall not be infringed. We have a right to protect ourselves from criminals and thugs and ultimately a tyrannical government.
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*Tom*
post 8.Sep.2005, 08:11 AM
Post #27


"People's right to bear arms shall not be infringed."

People don't have a "right" to bear arms - people have a right to expect to be safe. Bearing arms doesn't make people safe. Where there are more guns, more people are killed by guns.
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Mykfin
post 8.Sep.2005, 09:42 PM
Post #28
Joined: 7.Sep.2005

What are Swedens gun laws?

I presume you need a license to hold a shotgun, and what about firearms?

They banned hand guns in the UK after the Dumblane massacre, can you still obtain handguns in Sweden.
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*Dimitri*
post 10.Sep.2005, 08:07 PM
Post #29


OOoooooooooh! :shock:
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Pharazon
post 10.Sep.2005, 10:40 PM
Post #30
Joined: 21.Jul.2005

You can own any sensible weapon and get a licence for it as long as you are a member of a shooting-club (where else would you use it?) and have a clean crime-record.
You also need to prove that you can store the weapon safely at home (weapons locker).

The only way you can 'bear' your weapon in public is if you are transporting it to or from the shooting-range or hunting activity.

Sweden have among the highest guns per-capita in the world.
Almost all of it is hunting rifles.

John: "and ultimately a tyrannical government"
Since the people are the military the Swedish government can do nothing tyrannical.

The Homeguard keep their Ak4 (G3) assault-rifle at home.
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