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Posted by: TheExpatEagle 2.Nov.2020, 08:23 PM

The Moderates and Sweden Democrats want people who have lived in Sweden for more than 2 years to pay for their own interpreters.

Currently everyone has the right to have an interpreter at a meeting, hospital visit, doctor and so on paid for by the kommun.

"We demand of them, quite simply, that they must learn Swedish to enter society," says municipal councillor Cecilia Bladh.

This adds to the problem which has been becoming a bigger problem over the past 15-20 years where English is taking over in schools and workplaces as the dominant language.

Ten years ago it was made law that Swedish is the national language which had never been done before, enabling schools and workplaces to ban English from being used during official hours.

Personally, I have a lot of sympathy for Sweden and they are fighting a losing battle on the language front.

Posted by: Guest 2.Nov.2020, 08:32 PM

You know what will happen. The eu migrant who arrived, worked immediately and pays tax will have to pay for some translation. The Somali women who has been here a decade will be exempt because haven't had time to learn due to the 6 kids she's had. It's the classic excuse for not even finishing sfi as it is.

Posted by: Grommet 3.Nov.2020, 05:16 AM

Ya, just imagine all immigrants to Meatball Land learn fluent Swedish. They learn to act more Swedish than the Swedes.

And unemployment for foreigners is still, what, 20-25%.

Ya, Sweden, its a win-win for all.

Posted by: Martin565 3.Nov.2020, 09:51 AM


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Posted by: TheExpatEagle 3.Nov.2020, 12:31 PM

QUOTE (Skogsbo1 @ 2.Nov.2020, 08:32 PM) *
You know what will happen. The eu migrant who arrived, worked immediately and pays tax will have to pay for some translation. The Somali women who has been here a decade will be exempt because haven't had time to learn due to the 6 kids she's had. It's the classic excuse for not even finishing sfi as it is.


Yeah, that seems to be the way of things. A number of people have complained to me about that scenario because a lot of IT people come here from India.

I have noticed it being a lot more of a problem with the 'you are in Sweden so speak Swedish' mentality in Sk?ne but I can understand it as it is so close to the continent. Some people in Sk?ne think someone who works 8 hours a day (9 with lunch) should go and do 2-3 hours SFI an evening which isn't reasonable.


Posted by: TheExpatEagle 3.Nov.2020, 12:33 PM

QUOTE (Skogsbo1 @ 3.Nov.2020, 12:05 PM) *
Don't forget the odd eesh, oj, or even throw in the odd 'yes' in, it'll make you sound very cosmopolitan.

But the uk isn't any better. Many folk start every sentence with so.


Like, err, um, yeah, I mean, exactly, literally, etc.

Some people do tend to look down their nose at other languages/cultures/countries without having the self-distance to realise people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :-)

Posted by: Grommet 3.Nov.2020, 04:20 PM


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Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 3.Nov.2020, 06:39 PM

Like man ya know, it's like, ya know , I mean it's like...ya know!!!

Posted by: nativeswedishengineer 3.Nov.2020, 07:27 PM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 3.Nov.2020, 05:16 AM) *
Ya, just imagine all immigrants to Meatball Land learn fluent Swedish. They learn to act more Swedish than the Swedes.

And unemployment for foreigners is still, what, 20-25%.

Ya, Sweden, its a win-win for all.


You left Sweden, but had to create a new account just to complain. Didn't Germany share your view on your world class chemistry skills?

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 3.Nov.2020, 07:57 PM


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Posted by: Grommet 5.Nov.2020, 05:55 AM

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 3.Nov.2020, 07:57 PM) *
...do you ever think about how utterly stupid the Brummie dialect and accent sounds to everyone else in the UK?

And do YOU ever think about how most varieties of Bri'ish dialects sound to native speakers, around the world?

Christ, in Belfast, which has 4, one of them sounds like they talk out of their noses. Ulster-Scots? WTF?

Sco'ish accents are well liked though.

Posted by: Martin565 5.Nov.2020, 09:57 AM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 5.Nov.2020, 05:55 AM) *
And do YOU ever think about how most varieties of Bri'ish dialects sound to native speakers, around the world?

Christ, in Belfast, which has 4, one of them sounds like they talk out of their noses. Ulster-Scots? WTF?

Sco'ish accents are well liked though.


Belfast and South African are the worst accents in the world

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 5.Nov.2020, 11:22 AM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 5.Nov.2020, 05:55 AM) *
And do YOU ever think about how most varieties of Bri'ish dialects sound to native speakers, around the world?

Christ, in Belfast, which has 4, one of them sounds like they talk out of their noses. Ulster-Scots? WTF?

Sco'ish accents are well liked though.


Yes I do and that was my point penis breath.

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 5.Nov.2020, 11:27 AM

QUOTE (Martin565 @ 5.Nov.2020, 09:57 AM) *
Belfast and South African are the worst accents in the world


I would have agreed with you had I not recently been schooled on the South African accent.

The accent I think you are referring to (and that I would have said) is South Africans who speak English with an Afrikaans accent. The normal English SA accent is quite nice.

It's like saying Irish is awful when you mean Belfast, which I also agree with you on.

I had a boss at Dell 12 years ago who kept calling Londonderry as Derry. That's up to him so I kept calling it Londonderry because that is what I know it to be. He was majorly fucked off but couldn't do anything. He got even more annoyed when I educated the Swedes.

A lot of the time people understand things when you use analogies. The press give the Brits a hard time over NI but when you explain to a Swede that Catholics are like the Sami they not only understand easier but they change their view.


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Posted by: TheExpatEagle 5.Nov.2020, 08:57 PM


Posted by: TheExpatEagle 5.Nov.2020, 09:06 PM


Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 5.Nov.2020, 11:28 PM

It seems the attitude of migrants everywhere is, this is a great country that I chose to live in, I'm sure they will bend to my every desire and maintain the cultural standards that I left behind, but want to practice in my new country!!!

Posted by: Grommet 6.Nov.2020, 05:06 AM

QUOTE (Mib @ 5.Nov.2020, 04:02 PM) *
It's ironic because the Somalian community in Stockholm were the first to get COVID due to communication only being in Swedish.

So you admit that there are parallel societies living within the borders of Meatballia? I thought they all assimilated and held hands with the natives singing kumbaya.

So then, Sweden's immigration policy IS a failure? Wow! I never could have guessed!

Posted by: Billy_UK 6.Nov.2020, 01:17 PM


Posted by: Martin565 6.Nov.2020, 01:27 PM


Posted by: TheExpatEagle 6.Nov.2020, 08:53 PM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 6.Nov.2020, 05:06 AM) *
So you admit that there are parallel societies living within the borders of Meatballia? I thought they all assimilated and held hands with the natives singing kumbaya.

So then, Sweden's immigration policy IS a failure? Wow! I never could have guessed!


Show me one country where the immigration policy is 100% successful. All immigrants live in parallel society to some extent.

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 6.Nov.2020, 08:56 PM


Posted by: TheExpatEagle 6.Nov.2020, 08:57 PM


Posted by: Martin565 7.Nov.2020, 09:15 AM


Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 7.Nov.2020, 04:16 PM

FWIW...I heard that English is/was a must, because certain educational texts were only available in English, due to the low volume of Swedish speakers, productions costs were prohibitive...


Maybe not now...but then...

Posted by: Grommet 7.Nov.2020, 06:29 PM

Textbooks are too "knowledge based".

Swedes don't go for "knowledge" in education ever since the school reform of the 90's. Knowledge isn't filled with enough milk and cookies, as the Meatballs like it.

Try again old fool.

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 9.Nov.2020, 09:07 PM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 7.Nov.2020, 06:29 PM) *
Textbooks are too "knowledge based".

Swedes don't go for "knowledge" in education ever since the school reform of the 90's. Knowledge isn't filled with enough milk and cookies, as the Meatballs like it.

Try again old fool.


I just looked up deranged in the dictionary and I saw a picture of you.

Posted by: ersel 14.Nov.2020, 05:39 PM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 7.Nov.2020, 06:29 PM) *
Textbooks are too "knowledge based".

Swedes don't go for "knowledge" in education ever since the school reform of the 90's. Knowledge isn't filled with enough milk and cookies, as the Meatballs like it.

Try again old fool.



QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 9.Nov.2020, 09:07 PM) *
I just looked up deranged in the dictionary and I saw a picture of you.


The rumour circulating is that he did sort of vice versa...

saw a picture of you and got the mental association to the word that sometimes accompanies the word "deranged".



Posted by: Grommet 15.Nov.2020, 09:48 AM

Deranged, he is. But the honesty shines through. How he must suffer from only being able to be himself, on some obscure forum of one of the western-world's most obscure countries.

Well, Beagle, I'm sure being in PC MeatBall Land, you will have little trouble finding someone to talk penis and butts with you.

And probably, if you at least put a bag over your head, you will have no trouble being tied up and butt-f#cked, according to an earlier post of yours.

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