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The Local _ Swedish news _ Covid - The Swedes might have gotten it right

Posted by: Martin565 9.Sep.2020, 08:28 PM


Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 9.Sep.2020, 09:37 PM

Johnson and our beloved President Trump will lead the English speaking world and make it great...again!!!

Posted by: Martin565 9.Sep.2020, 09:56 PM


Posted by: Guest 10.Sep.2020, 06:21 AM

The USA loves a Hollywood movie ending, the American dream. The idea a person can become a movie star then senator, mayor, president.. or inherit daddies money whilst organising beauty contests.. they ignore the fact most are trapped in a job with limited annual leave and desperate for any work that has healthcare included. If a president can please the happy clappers religious groups and the gun groups then happy days. Considering the so called founding fathers said the USA should be secular you won't find a president who didn't say God bless America to please his voters, and it will be his, the USA is still a long way from a female president.

Posted by: bonviveur 10.Sep.2020, 06:30 AM

so many economical theoretics, bureaucrats who never created a single job or some real value but .can speak so nice ruling the world, when succesfull business man like Trump becomes a politician I see it as a good thing, there is a chance such person will create something good instead of promising free stuff to the free loaders, who becoming main voting class more and more

Posted by: Essingen55 10.Sep.2020, 08:45 AM


Posted by: Guest 10.Sep.2020, 09:34 AM

The difference is measures in sweden are pretty much the same now as in April, a sustainable plan that isn't changing weekly or monthly so folk can follow it, businesses and work places can plan around it. Look at some other countries they are all over the place in the last 3 months and it hasn't gained them anything. Sweden could continue its current measures for another year if the vaccines fail to deliver, most other countries in Europe aren't in that position just now.

Posted by: oddsock 10.Sep.2020, 10:05 AM

The Swedish approach was very successful, if you ignore the thousands of deaths.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 10.Sep.2020, 01:23 PM

The truth is nobody can fight this thing and win...the most severe measures wreck the economy and people die from things that don't get treated because of the virus and a lot more...Here in New York, 66 percent of those that meticulously followed lockdown rules and stayed inside their homes became infected!!!

I leave you with this:...If everybody knows how to stop this thing and Sweden does not, then tell me why it is still spreading???

Posted by: bonviveur 10.Sep.2020, 03:20 PM

very well said Gamla

Posted by: Guest 10.Sep.2020, 03:50 PM

Why is it still spreading... It's doing precisely what viruses have evolved to do over millions of years. Replicate using a host, don't kill the host until you've multiplied and spread to new hosts, a balancing act. We encounter 1000s every year and 99.99% don't harm us.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 10.Sep.2020, 04:26 PM

Thank you...

Agreed...

I stated before a while ago in another thread that these things are unstoppable without vaccination and will continue to infect until they tire out and disappear and probably rise again to infect new generations...this is the natural world we live in...

So be it...

Posted by: Grommet 10.Sep.2020, 04:39 PM

Interesting how everyone seems to gloss over the 1000's of unnecessary deaths in Sweden due to its handling of corona that didn't happen in all other (very comparable) Nordic societies.

Sorry, what exactly was the benefit of Sweden's approach? Herd-immunity? Nope. Saves the economy? Nope. Protects the vulnerable (which they aptly identified)? Nope.

And by the way, comparing with UK, Spain, Italy? Bravo. Cherry-pick the worst cases, et voila, anyone can look good.

Also interesting how they mandated elderly to die, with a shot of morphine as they suffocated to death, rather than admit then to a ITC system with a 20% vacancy rate, and you tards all think that is right on.

Anything to protect the bullshit image of Sweden as some kind of holier-than-thou place.

You're a pathetic lot.

Posted by: Martin565 10.Sep.2020, 07:13 PM


Posted by: oddsock 10.Sep.2020, 08:13 PM

A monkey could do better than Boris Johnson

Posted by: bonviveur 11.Sep.2020, 06:15 AM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 10.Sep.2020, 05:39 PM) *
Interesting how everyone seems to gloss over the 1000's of unnecessary deaths in Sweden due to its handling of corona that didn't happen in all other (very comparable) Nordic societies.

Sorry, what exactly was the benefit of Sweden's approach? Herd-immunity? Nope. Saves the economy? Nope. Protects the vulnerable (which they aptly identified)? Nope.

And by the way, comparing with UK, Spain, Italy? Bravo. Cherry-pick the worst cases, et voila, anyone can look good.

Also interesting how they mandated elderly to die, with a shot of morphine as they suffocated to death, rather than admit then to a ITC system with a 20% vacancy rate, and you tards all think that is right on.

Anything to protect the bullshit image of Sweden as some kind of holier-than-thou place.

You're a pathetic lot.


elderly died because employees in care homes in Sweden does not follow sanitation,desinfection routines, with no checks from authorities these places are

Posted by: Guest 11.Sep.2020, 07:43 AM

I'd say their day to day guidelines are right, they are consistent and avoid yo yoing measures that confuse. Like many countries they initially failed to adequately protect care homes.

Posted by: Essingen55 11.Sep.2020, 08:17 AM

QUOTE
.Here in New York, 66 percent of those that meticulously followed lockdown rules and stayed inside their homes became infected!!!


I have seen this heading when googling about New York. And it makes little sense to me. The consensus of opinion seems to be that people actually didn't stay inside but went out to buy food, get exercise etc etc. However, even this wouldn't seem to account for such a high percentage.

Is there any change that air conditioning is a factor in New York?

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 11.Sep.2020, 01:33 PM

New York was still a bit cool when the virus began A/C was not a factor...The only explanation was that the virus was brought to those staying in...Via???...for a while I was putting my mail in a microwave and washing my hands after touching it...luckily I have been spared

Posted by: yonisan 11.Sep.2020, 02:34 PM

Swedens day to day strategy was on point this is very very clear. What I find intersting is how there was no increase when everyone came back from their foreign vacations in Sweden(I know many many people who have been abroad even though the advice was to stay local), but other countries are suffering with an increase after the summer...

Additionally in Sweden society feels calm compared with what is happening again in UK, France, Spain, Italy etc

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 11.Sep.2020, 02:52 PM

Ten years from now all the statistics would have been studied and possibly a strategy to fight this virus will be identified...

Maybe the only person living on an island in the middle of nowhere will be awarded the prize for successfully coping with the virus...

As for the rest of us...???

Posted by: Grommet 11.Sep.2020, 06:35 PM

QUOTE (bonviveur @ 11.Sep.2020, 06:15 AM) *
elderly died because employees in care homes in Sweden does not follow sanitation,desinfection routines, with no checks from authorities these places are

You forget that the Swedish state told carers no PPE was necessary. Again, you simply prove my initial point.

Yonisan competes with SkoBo for "Cheerleader of Sweden" award. Funny how all of you simply gloss over 1000's of necessary deaths and prop up that supposition with utter bullshit.

Also funny how only Brits and refugees feel Meatball Land is a step up. Ya, pretty much anywhere is doing better than the UK right now. What a shock. If that's all you've got for reasons why Sweden is better than better, you are already a lost cause.

Just like Swedish media; absolutely feckless.


Posted by: Martin565 11.Sep.2020, 06:55 PM


Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 13.Sep.2020, 01:24 AM

France is reporting 10,000 new cases in ONE day!!!

Isn't anybody doing the "right thing"???

What ever that is!!!

https://www.france24.com/en/20200910-france-logs-10-000-new-cases-in-24-hours-a-record-since-the-start-of-covid-19-epidemic

Posted by: Grommet 13.Sep.2020, 02:53 PM

QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 13.Sep.2020, 01:24 AM) *
France is reporting 10,000 new cases in ONE day!!!

Isn't anybody doing the "right thing"???

What ever that is!!!

https://www.france24.com/en/20200910-france-logs-10-000-new-cases-in-24-hours-a-record-since-the-start-of-covid-19-epidemic

It must be scary and confusing to go through life with so many questions, and never being able to arrive at the answers using your own "cognitive" ability (yes, being quite generous here).

As they say, ignorance, is bliss.

Sad to be you.

Posted by: djmarko 14.Sep.2020, 07:58 AM

I will say at this stage is, Sweden attitude to Corona was based on luck than anything else, also the scare porn peddled by major mainstream media did not impact how the Swedes handled the crisis, the key word was staying calm, besides Corona, other issues that it brought like depression, mental illness, unemployment, nobody seem to talk a lot about this, could not understand how you could lock down healthy people and not expect them to fall ill after the Quarantine period was over, at this stage, we still do not know a lot how and when this crisis will be over

Posted by: Grommet 14.Sep.2020, 07:44 PM

Now this is the inept Sweden I remember:

https://www.thelocal.se/20200914/whats-going-on-with-swedens-advice-for-coronavirus-close-contacts

1. Swedish health authorities left outdated advice for people who have come into close contact with coronavirus cases on their websites for over a month.

2. Asked how the outdated information came to remain on the website more than a month after the guidelines changed, he said: "We missed updating this page."

Yes, you tards, that's right, Sweden's Public Health Agency has fucked up, yet again. They "missed" updating their own page with new recommendations concerning covid, for more than 4 weeks.

And these new recommendations, which were left more or less pointless for more than 1 month, are a real about-face for the Meatballs.

The Public Health Agency's recommendations now state that people who have had close contact with someone who has tested positive for the coronavirus should take the following steps:

- Avoid close contacts with other people for 14 days
- Try to keep at least an arm's length distance from the sick person, if you share a household with them
-Work from home if possible
- Keep a close lookout for coronavirus symptoms (and stay at home if you experience any)

What? They aren't any longer recommending people cohabiting with a covid-19 positive person to go to work, or school, and continue life as usual?

Quarantine?

And those idiots who cannot perform their duties properly will likely, in true Swetard fashion, likely be given raises and promotions!

So c'mon SkoBo! C'mon yanison! Give us a "S"...you wankers!

Posted by: Grommet 14.Sep.2020, 07:48 PM

QUOTE (yonisan @ 11.Sep.2020, 02:34 PM) *
Swedens day to day strategy was on point this is very very clear.

Yes, very clear. And you seem to also confuse "calmness" with "inept non-action".

But otherwise, ya, you seem to really know what's going on in Meatballia.

Posted by: oddsock 17.Sep.2020, 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 11.Sep.2020, 07:35 PM) *
You forget that the Swedish state told carers no PPE was necessary. Again, you simply prove my initial point.


Yep. The FHM explicitly told them that PPE was not necessary.

And then when the shit hit the fan, Tegnell and Carlsson blamed carers with immigrant backgrounds for not understanding recommendations correctly.

It's always somebody else's fault, it seems.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 17.Sep.2020, 05:07 PM

Hey wait!!!

These people are the ones that know how to combat the virus, so why is this happening...Don't they know better than Sweden???

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/europe/coronavirus-europe-who-second-wave-intl/index.html

Posted by: Grommet 17.Sep.2020, 06:33 PM

QUOTE (Gamla H?lsingebock @ 17.Sep.2020, 05:07 PM) *
Hey wait!!!

These people are the ones that know how to combat the virus, so why is this happening...Don't they know better than Sweden???

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/europe/coronavirus-europe-who-second-wave-intl/index.html

It must be scary and confusing to go through life with so many questions, and never being able to arrive at the answers using your own "cognitive" ability (yes, being quite generous here).

As they say, ignorance, is bliss.

Sad to be you.

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