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Posted by: jen1979 2.Dec.2020, 06:26 PM

I have bought a plot of in my beloved J?mtland. I want to build a fritidshus around 55kvm. I have been looking at flat pack houses eg Skidstahus which offer turn key packages with ground works etc if needed. These seem a good option as at present I am living in the UK.
I want to compare the cost of the different options which seem to be:
Turn key flat pack house with all ground work included.
Turn key flat pack house but using a local firm to build the foundations.
Flat pack kit using a local builder to do foundations and assembly
Local builder to do everything from scratch.
Has anyone any experience they can share?

Posted by: Guest 2.Dec.2020, 06:56 PM

Too late now, cheaper to buy an existing property, even if you flatten it, as you have all the services already in place and permissions.

Much depends if you need to set up your own water, sewage and electricity. Building a 55m2 cabin is the potentially the cheap bit.

Posted by: Martin565 2.Dec.2020, 07:08 PM

Posted by: Guest 2.Dec.2020, 07:12 PM

Posted by: Martin565 2.Dec.2020, 07:20 PM

QUOTE (Skogsbo1 @ 2.Dec.2020, 07:12 PM) *
The price still depends massively on services available. Stand alone or plug into kommune etc.. as I said, putting up the prefab cabin is the easy and often the cheap bit. And yes I've have renovated/built houses here.

Fair enough but what would Greta say to you using all that diesel machinery?

Posted by: Guest 2.Dec.2020, 07:32 PM

Read and Google for more articles like this. Knowledge is power and less stress when dealing with builders, local council etc.

Posted by: jen1979 3.Dec.2020, 08:19 AM

Thanks for the info so far, I forgot to say, the plot has water, sewage and electricity to it and connections are paid.

Posted by: Guest 3.Dec.2020, 09:30 AM

Having services is a bonus. If the sewage is a septic tank, check it's upto to standard, recent rule changes have been applied to holiday homes for the last few years and it might need changing. Is the water pumped from the ground or kommunal? If pumped then get a sample checked.

Planning permission. Piece of string to some degree, but should be less than 10k krona depending on anything technical they may want to look at. It could be much less. Beware many of them have no idea about building stuff at all.

The house. A rough guide is 20-30k krona per m2, but it depends on the design and layout, plus how that might tie in with the existing services. Eg if you want the bathroom on the north side but the sewage services are way to the south, it's solvable but will need more time and materials. Find a builder with a good local reputation and trust their advice.
If you can be on site and be their slave, tidy upper, or even drive to hardware place to pick up stuff then you save money. Speak to the local hardware place, bo-list or similar retailer. Start an account with them. It's so much easier if you just need to dive in for a box of screws etc. Especially once they know you. They will also know the local builders and who has built what recently so you can go have a peek at it.

Also price will depend on the interior, if you have a fancy bathroom and kitchen then price per m2 will rise, a big open living space and it'll fall. consider having a 2nd floor, balcony bedroom anything etc. You'll get more space for proportional less money. Or ask the builder to future proof it, so you could expand up or out at a later date.

Summer house! Personally I would always suggest summer house by name, 365 house by design. You'll need to heat it to around 10c through winter, which could easily be 30c warmer than outside. It's way cheaper to insulate properly (over and above base Swedish standards) than heat a purely summer house over say 10 years. Folk who skimp on heating in winter end up with damp in dry rot.

Tax; winner! You'll get a fairly decent ROT avdrag, roughly a 30% reduction of labour costs. There should be a calculator on the SV website. Your builder will be familiar with ROT.

In your planning don't forget about the small stuff, outside storage for garden things, bikes, skis, snow shovels, etc. The kind of convenience bits that make life easier.

Posted by: Grommet 3.Dec.2020, 07:37 PM

QUOTE (Martin565 @ 2.Dec.2020, 08:20 PM) *
Fair enough but what would Greta say to you using all that diesel machinery?


Posted by: Martin565 3.Dec.2020, 09:38 PM

Posted by: Guest 3.Dec.2020, 10:26 PM

QUOTE (Martin565 @ 3.Dec.2020, 09:38 PM) *
Guys a hypocrite he can build all those houses using diesel powered diggers

I can't be done even attempting to debate with you. Not sure what you use in Birmingham but most folk don't build houses with diggers here! Thought you were leaving?

Posted by: Martin565 3.Dec.2020, 10:48 PM

Posted by: Anders 4.Dec.2020, 04:43 PM

QUOTE (Skogsbo1 @ 3.Dec.2020, 09:30 AM) *
Tax; winner! You'll get a fairly decent ROT avdrag, roughly a 30% reduction of labour costs. There should be a calculator on the SV website. Your builder will be familiar with ROT.

But no ROT for a new house.

Posted by: Guest 4.Dec.2020, 05:27 PM

QUOTE (Anders @ 4.Dec.2020, 04:43 PM) *
But no ROT for a new house.

Yes. But because all services were in place I was wondering or speculating if it's the site of an old property and therefore a renovation!?

If it's all new, then it should be exempt fastighetsavgift for 5 years.

Posted by: Anders 5.Dec.2020, 09:37 PM

You need to keep a larger part of the exiting building's structure to get ROT deduction.

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