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The new voice of Europe.

It's late but very welcome.

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post 8.May.2017, 12:28 PM
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Looks like Marie Le Pen didn't turn out to be The new voice of Europe afterall.
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Mib
post 8.May.2017, 12:42 PM
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She is a voice for the genuine concerns that are ignored by French politics. A tactic employed across Europe. OF course, a sizeable minority are racist, but that would never give her 34% vote. However, she was never a credible alternative. If Macron addresses the genuine concerns, Le Pen will disappear back to a minority again. Just as the BNP, UKIP are now irrelevant, Le Pen and her party will be also.

Macron is a very intersting politician. He became financially independent while working as a banker. He then became the finance minister amongst other things. Then the Paris attacks hppened and Hollande wanted to change the constitution to deal with terrorists, which Macron was against. He then stood up in parliament and said that they as the elite, should take some responsibility, which the PM disagreed with. Then in 2016, Macron resigned to set up his own movement and to challenge for the Presidency. He wants to take the best from the Left and Right to help France. He wants to be a proactive Government, not a reactive one and wants to include everyone. He believes in Europe, but states that they have to change to survive. So, all in all, he looks like the real deal. But words and a suit aren't enough. Only his actions and the results of that will determine whether he's a Tony Bliar copy or Macron, a game changer. I dearly hope he's the latter.
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Bsmith
post 8.May.2017, 04:08 PM
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Le Pen is too Trumpish and that turned off the voters, but she does raise some legitimate concerns.
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Cheeseroller
post 8.May.2017, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (Nine X Nine @ 26.Apr.2017, 07:13 AM) *
And Christianity does? The Catholic Church is responsible for more murder, deaths, and torture than Hitler and Stalin combined. Strangely enough we have Napoleon to thank for ... (show full quote)


"Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest. Half of the glorious Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed. The first Western Buddhists were the Greeks descended from Alexander the Great's army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all of Buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million Buddhists died. The conquest of Buddhism is the practical result of pacifism. Zoroastrianism was eliminated from Persia. The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam. In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad. Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7y2LRcf4kc
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 8.May.2017, 08:41 PM
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And now their greatest weapon is their birthrate, Christian Europe cannot compete!!!

A classic case of "there goes the neighborhood"!!!
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Bsmith
post 9.May.2017, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (Cheeseroller @ 8.May.2017, 06:08 PM) *
"Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The histo ... (show full quote)



But Islam is the religion of peace...or so they say. Tell the lie big enough, often enough and loud enough and the man who is telling the truth will sound crazy.
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