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Abortion, pro life/ pro choice

Talk about your views on abortion

Saywhatwhat
post 15.Sep.2019, 03:07 PM
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I believe in pro choice.

I don’t see what the issue is.

And pro life activists bombing abortion clinics... gee whiz... a bit hypocritical, no?
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Bsmith
post 15.Sep.2019, 03:47 PM
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Killing an innocent life is pro choice? For who? Certainly not the baby.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 15.Sep.2019, 04:12 PM
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We need condom reform laws...

Any woman caught without the mandatory amount of condoms on her should/will be punished to the fullest extent of the law!!!
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Saywhatwhat
post 15.Sep.2019, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 15.Sep.2019, 04:47 PM) *
Killing an innocent life is pro choice? For who? Certainly not the baby.


It is the choice of the mother and father.

Innocent life... can you define the parameters of innocent life, age wise?

89-92% of abortions occur before 13 weeks... 66% occurring before 8 weeks.

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Bsmith
post 15.Sep.2019, 05:58 PM
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Well, just think of the school shootings as late term abortions and you'll be just fine.
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Saywhatwhat
post 15.Sep.2019, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 15.Sep.2019, 06:58 PM) *
Well, just think of the school shootings as late term abortions and you'll be just fine.



Hmmm, you seem a bit salty for some reason. Why?

Let me pose this question since you are implying that life before birth is as valuable as life after birth. I’ll use a 10 week old in the question since 90% (about) of abortions occur before 13 weeks. Mind you, 10 weeks into pregnancy the life is still an embryo.

You are in a burning building and need to escape or else die. While making your way to the exit you hear screams for help behind a door. You open that door and see a 5 year old in the corner crying for help. In the other corner you see a crate of 100 10wk old embryos. You have three choices a, save the crate of embryos, b, save the 5 year old, c, do nothing and everyone dies.

What do you do?
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Saywhatwhat
post 15.Sep.2019, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 15.Sep.2019, 06:58 PM) *
Well, just think of the school shootings as late term abortions and you'll be just fine.



We would still need massive gun law reform in that case
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Bsmith
post 15.Sep.2019, 09:49 PM
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Let me pose a question to you? When do you think life begins?
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Saywhatwhat
post 15.Sep.2019, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 15.Sep.2019, 10:49 PM) *
Let me pose a question to you? When do you think life begins?



I hope you will also answer my questions from post 6.

I’ll gladly answer your question but you need to be more specific... what do you mean with life beginning?

The sperm and egg are both living... there is life in them...

There is life in a 10 week old embryo.

I personally would save a 5 year old child rather than a crate of 10,000 embryos. I would even knock over multiple crates to save that one 5 year old because those lives are not morally, ethically, nor biologically equivalent.
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Gjeebes
post 16.Sep.2019, 02:32 AM
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"Killing an innocent life is pro choice? For who? Certainly not the baby."

No, obviously, embryos cannot think, as their brains are not yet developed in time, as per the time limits imposed for abortion.

It is the choice of the woman. And so it should be. Personally, I have heard of hookers who continue to get pregnant and just have the next abortion.

It disgusts me. Abortion should not be considered a form of birth control.

Women who become pregnant by means of violent rape, or whose fetus' are deformed etc, or known to cause risk to the woman for whatever reason, then sure, they should be allowed.

Funny how BSmith is all uppity with "single Black mothers" and their being subsidised, yet at the same time, he wishes to force their pregnancies on them.
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Bsmith
post 16.Sep.2019, 11:33 AM
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Uppity Black mothers, as you call them, can make choices. If they, or anyone else makes bad choices, they should accept the consequences. Babies, unborn or not, do not have the ability to make choices. They are completely innocent.

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Saywhatwhat
post 16.Sep.2019, 12:19 PM
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Bsmith, can you answer the questions I asked in post 6?

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Saywhatwhat
post 16.Sep.2019, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 16.Sep.2019, 12:33 PM) *
Uppity Black mothers, as you call them, can make choices. If they, or anyone else makes bad choices, they should accept the consequences.


It sounds like you are saying the sole responsibility lies with the woman.

Anti abortion laws will create the need for more social services which will create the need for more taxes.

As Gjeebes mentioned there should also be a case by case assessment in the likes of multiple abortions and late term abortions, although that is typically for medical reasons. All should have medical assessment obviously.

Outside of that, a woman’s choice to have an abortion should be allowed... and free from harassment and/ or potential violence from protests which occurs at abortion clinics.
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Bsmith
post 16.Sep.2019, 03:20 PM
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I did not say that abortion is the sole responsibility of the mother. I was responding to Gjeebes statement. But you seem to be saying that the murder of the innocent babies should be allowed without any harassment. Strange position from someone who is so against anyone being killed by a gun. What is the difference between killing someone with a gun or a forceps or vacuum device. If you are open minded enough, you should watch the movie "Unplanned". I would be interested in your take on that film.

Also, anti abortion laws do not have to create more need for social services if the sex partners exercise some personal responsibility...something the snowflake generation is not too big on.

Oh, and if there was a fire and you had to choose one of your 2 kids...which one would you choose? Same question.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 16.Sep.2019, 03:50 PM
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Nobody mentioned religion, I wonder why???

About the fire scenarios... Call a Fireman and save everybody, or do the unborn not fit the everybody description???
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