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Australian Moving to Sweden?

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Gjeebes
post 7.Dec.2017, 03:00 PM
Post #46
Joined: 20.Feb.2012

Well...MEOW!

"who are you to tell someone not to try something just because you didn't like it"

It isn't about what I "like" and "don't like". It is about telling people how things are here.

Everything good for you? Great. Tell people.

I find things here, for me, are quite lacking, on many fronts. And to your surprise, so it would seem, so do many, many others. And Sweden possesses a "backwards-ness" that I never could have imagined possible. Just read some of the threads in this forum if you don't understand.

So, "who am I" to tell someone to try elsewhere? Someone who, having gone through the wringer here, repeatedly, feels obliged to "warn" people about how Sweden really is.

And my point about being anti-social was not a comment of your personal merit. You have an extremely thin skin. The point was rather that it seems to me the people who defend Sweden the most, are anti-social, and therefore, seem to be somewhat more "sheltered" from the reality of Sweden's dark underbelly, since such types are less likely to be fully engaged in the society.
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gplusa
post 7.Dec.2017, 08:56 PM
Post #47
Location: Luleå
Joined: 4.Sep.2009

Wow. You take a few months away from the forum and come back to find a new reincarnstion of the resident "it's all Sweden's fault" drop kick. We 've seen your lot come and go before, and yet we're all still here. We'll see you out as well. I love my Swedish life, as do the majority of people here. it has to be killing you that you couldn't make it.
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Gjeebes
post 7.Dec.2017, 09:30 PM
Post #48
Joined: 20.Feb.2012

Haha! Who says I didn't make it?

And Luleå? Oh ya baby! One of "goodest" Sweden's many arseholes!

Do enjoy!
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Cheeseroller
post 9.Dec.2017, 02:46 AM
Post #49
Location: Germany
Joined: 10.Apr.2007

Well MoD, good that you are happy. Long may it continue. My sister emigrated to NZ with her family 15 years ago, live 1 hour north of Wellington. They had a rough few years adapting and missing home, but are all settled now - though I think most of their friends are expats. They have travelled around and sent photo's of the incredible nature. She seems to have gone native and now for some years has some sheep :-)
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Cheeseroller
post 9.Dec.2017, 03:10 AM
Post #50
Location: Germany
Joined: 10.Apr.2007

As you quite rightly say, no country is perfect. It's a question of finding one where you feel comfortable and it meets your needs. Having said that, Sweden has more layers than an onion. The culture is different from other Western countries, more obtuse, more difficult to understand. But if someone likes a calm life, appreciates solitude and nature, and like you, it allows you to develop your career - why not? I had no idea that there were World class pasty chefs in Sweden - I would have thought France or Belgium - at least as a layman looking at the dismal cakes on offer at most Swedish bakeries.

Gjeebes is a bit shrill at the moment, he leaves next month. He's disappointed with the time and effort he invested in Sweden only to discover the glass ceilings. I felt the same before I left, it's not as if any research would have helped - back in 1998, this forum didn't exist. I hope he finds peace and the his ambition is rewarded his next country.

This forum has always been a place for newbies to ask basic questions and others to vent. Unfortunately, it is rare to hear from those who are happy with their lot, and who have lived in Sweden for more than 5 years. There are no role models or mentors who help the newbies who struggle onto the next level.
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Mistress_Of_Doom
post 10.Dec.2017, 12:05 AM
Post #51
Joined: 14.Mar.2016

I gave up on the arguments because they were going nowhere. But thanks for the support. I can understand if someone has put in a lot of effort and got nothing back, kind if like a one-sided relationship. I don't think I've suffered any hardship here in Sweden. That's why I feel like others could also have a good time here. Sweden isn't famous for their pastry per se, but there are some restaurants that are top 50 in the world. Even so many that aren't top 50 but put so much care and attention to detail in everything they do. Not to mention, coming from half way around the world I wanted to learn new techniques and work with ingredients I'd never even heard of before. I'm not talking about your general run of the mill bakery kind of pastry. Pastry/patissiere is a broad term that includes plated desserts. I've been given the opportunity to invent my own desserts to go on the menu and I've received nothing but positive feedback. Working in Sweden also has the added bonus of learning to think more eco-friendly. We have our own vegetable, herb and flower gardens that we harvest fresh and straight onto a plate. I am loving the natural side of Sweden, and the fact that you're close to the water everywhere you go. I intend to go ice fishing some time when it is suitable. For the average person, "Swedish cuisine" doesn't mean very much, but for a chef it opens up a world of possibilities.
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Mistress_Of_Doom
post 10.Dec.2017, 12:27 AM
Post #52
Joined: 14.Mar.2016

Ok so I kind of rambled on, but I get excited when I talk about food. Particularly desserts, there's just something so intriguing about using science to make edible art. There's a kind of skill you acquire through some trial and error, and just knowing how something will or should turn out. You also achieve consistency by accuracy of measurements, something that a regular chef rarely has to worry about because they can change and adjust their sauces up until the last minute.
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rex
post 11.Dec.2017, 03:02 PM
Post #53
Joined: 3.Jul.2017

QUOTE (Cheeseroller @ 9.Dec.2017, 03:10 AM) *
This forum has always been a place for newbies to ask basic questions and others to vent. Unfortunately, it is rare to hear from those who are happy with their lot, and who ha ... (show full quote)


I have lived for more than 5 years in Sweden. It can be a terribly infuriating place to live.

1. There are glass ceilings everywhere, and some doors are welded shut on the same floor.

2. At the same time, if you're Western European or native English speaker you should do well here. The Swedes adore Americans and Germans, and would bend backwards to satisfy them. However see #1.

3. Immigrants from other parts of the world, even from other parts of non-Western Europe, are seen as pests. The things that I hear about Poles and Syrians make me sick in the stomach.

Those are the three golden rules of Sweden, according to me. If you're a strong career person then I'm afraid Sweden might not be for you, because you'll always be an outsider. Hell, I've even been told that in my face multiple times by "PC"-Swedes. If you let it get to you, it limits your social life, your career, and your already limited opportunities to become a contributing member society.

At the same time, if you understand your place in the society here, and are happy with what you've got, then you should do well. It depends on your perspective.
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greasenipplegunnage
post 4.Apr.2018, 12:54 PM
Post #54
Joined: 4.Apr.2018

To swing this conversation around, I'm also in the same boat as OP. Planning on making the move in September!

I was curious, I currently work in marketing for a bank (primarily digital, i.e. Google AdWords, Facebook Ads etc). I have my Bachelor's in Business Marketing, have been in the work force off of my internship for a year and have this delusion that I can use my degree/skills anywhere in the world because my field of work isn't necessarily language/location restricted.

In saying that, is there much demand for someone like myself in Sweden? A qualified, young, creative professional from Aus?
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