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Posted by: joek79 13.Feb.2014, 11:44 AM

Hi everybody,

I live in Australia and will be moving to Sweden late this year with family. I've been told by a friend who visited for a short holiday that weed is looked down upon as just as bad as drugs like heroin and crystal meth, is this true? What are the punishments like for being in possession of it like?

Ever since I was 11 I've never been able to get through a night without waking up around 15 times, sometimes even more. When I was 15 I started smoking weed most nights before bed and have had no problems sleeping ever since, so it would be a shame to have to give it up and use prescription drugs instead. I don't drink, smoke cigarettes or do any other drugs.

Thank you! smile.gif

Matthew.

Posted by: LLHope 13.Feb.2014, 01:29 PM

QUOTE (joek79 @ 13.Feb.2014, 11:44 AM) *
I've been told by a friend who visited for a short holiday that weed is looked down upon as just as bad as drugs like heroin and crystal meth, is this true?

Yes. There is no difference with regards the law, they are all controlled substances.

QUOTE (joek79 @ 13.Feb.2014, 11:44 AM) *
What are the punishments like for being in possession of it like?

There are 3 levels of punishment:
1. Fine or prison up to 6 months
2. Prison up to 3 years
3. Prison for between 3 to 10 years.

It depends what you are doing, how much there was/is and how it is viewed in court. So simple possession of a small enough amount for personal consumption only would most likely be a fine, if a little more in your pocket then possible prison up to 6 months...if you had more than was judged to be for personal use, or intent to distribute then depending upon how much, either (2) or (3) ...growing it is (3).

As an immigrant you also risk having your permit withdrawn and being deported once you have served your sentence.

Posted by: Opalnera 14.Feb.2014, 11:39 PM

Oh I feel your struggle, I have horrible insomnia. I'm not a fan of the Mary Jane but as someone who has used prescription sleeping tablets which make you feel drowsy and hungover I totally understand your point of view. Just a warning: Temazapam (the most prescribed sleeping tablet in Oz) is considered a class A narcotic in Sweden. So if you do want to bring some prescription tablets with you from home make sure it's Stilnox. You'll probably want something legal to get you through until you um, "know a guy".

Posted by: snarky 15.Feb.2014, 12:22 AM

I will say that in Copenhagen there is a hippy type area called Christiania that sells weed, if you ever felt the need to hop down there. I would not suggest bringing anything into Sweden though.

I'm sure this doesn't help, but in the off chance you move to Malmo and maybe work in Copenhagen, you have that option, lol.

Posted by: cherrybubble 15.Feb.2014, 12:58 AM

The "native swedes" have an interestingly alarmed attitude about marijuana. Like, they were taught in school that its as bad as cocaine or heroin. They get all saucer-eyed and worried if you tell them you've smoked. Ever.
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Its actually very endearing.

BUT where I live now, I smell marijuana smoke multiple times a day at different places. The other day I walked onto the subway platform (which is not outdoors) and a trio of teenage girls threw away a blunt onto the tracks and ran away giggling. Clearly, the attitude in my suburb is super relaxed. This is definitely because of all the immigrants. I do not smoke (MJ), so I'm afraid I cannot help, but I wanted to reassure you that (at least where I live) it is very common and no one seems afraid of the authorities when they stand outside in the courtyard and smoke.

Welcome!
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Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 15.Feb.2014, 01:08 AM

Maybe the "Swedes" look upon it as a stepping stone leading to really bad stuff, I know I do...living in the Big Apple I have had classmates(9th grade)OD on the heavy stuff and they all started on pot.

Just my rant, but it did happen.

Posted by: Hisingen 15.Feb.2014, 12:08 PM

If you are that desperate for weed you can come and help me get rid of the weeds in my garden. There should be enough to last you a lifetime - - -

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- - - especially as a lifetime on that weed will not be a long one.

Posted by: Svensksmith 15.Feb.2014, 12:18 PM

Slightly off topic, but related to the sleep issue: I take a tablet each night that has melatonin, valerian root and GABA which are all natural (and legal!) sleep aides.

I sleep like a rock.

Posted by: Opalnera 15.Feb.2014, 01:50 PM

I know plenty of Swedes who do smoke a bit (or a lot) of the green leafy stuff, it's not that it doesn't happen but it's true that it's not as talked about as in other countries.

Posted by: Cheeseroller 6.Jun.2018, 09:07 AM

Svensksmith - I would be interested to know the band and name of the tablets. I bought some from Amazon that work very well, but are limited to 7 days use.

Posted by: Bsmith 6.Jun.2018, 10:58 AM

Melatonin, also known as N-acetyl-5-methoxy tryptamine, is a hormone that is produced by the pineal gland in animals and regulates sleep and wakefulness. (Wikipedia). I get a timed released version from Swansons vitamins that works well. I also get Valerian (a perennial flowering plant native to Europe and Asia... Wikipedia) from the same source. However, I am not sure what is sold in Sweden. Try a local health food store and see what they have in these.

Good luck.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 6.Jun.2018, 06:21 PM

And what of the proverbial glass of red wine before bedtime???

Posted by: Bsmith 6.Jun.2018, 10:50 PM

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 6.Jun.2018, 05:21 PM) *
And what of the proverbial glass of red wine before bedtime???


Yeah, but for the prostate...

Posted by: rex 6.Jun.2018, 11:43 PM

It's a weird taboo. I know a lot of Swedes who get shitfaced on drugs and alcohol every time they're out of the country, and a few who specifically travel to Thailand to fuck boy-whores, but once they come back to Sweden then it's a completely different story. I think in my entire life I've only seen a handful of Swedes who were okay with smoking some weed. I believe the term I'm looking for is hypocrites or perhaps uptight. The kids of immigrants and the immigrants themselves are much more relaxed with respect to weed, though.

At the same time, it's not difficult to procure some for personal use but the quality and price tend to suffer because of the whole illegal aspect of weed. If you want a comparison, think of the whole war on drugs and prohibition bullshit during the Nixon administration. That's where Sweden is nowadays with weed.

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 7.Jun.2018, 07:24 AM

I smoke two joints in the morning, I smoke to joints at night, I smoke two joints in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright. I smoke two joints in times of peace, and two in time of war. I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints, and then I smoke two more.

Posted by: SmokerT69 7.Jun.2018, 02:05 PM

Considering how liberal Sweden is, I just assumed weed would be normal here. Boy was I wrong lol. I lived most of my life in the Caribbean and you can't walk down the street without smelling it. Kids use to smoke up in school during the lunch break. Somehow we got on the topic of it with my wife's family who are all Swedish. You would think I was the devil, lol. I haven't smoked in probably a decade but I did smoke a bit during my teen years.

But then again, even alcohol is looked down on. Being British and being in the British army, we have always had a drinking culture. It's completely normal to have pint after work or even drink during the weekdays. My wife said her friends think I'm an alcoholic because I have a beer or two while BBQing or ask them if they want to meet at the pub after work on a Thursday to catch up.

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 16.May.2019, 04:40 PM

They still think it’s the devils lettuce.

Posted by: joshr 17.May.2019, 08:17 AM

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 6.Jun.2018, 10:58 AM) *
Melatonin, also known as N-acetyl-5-methoxy tryptamine, is a hormone that is produced by the pineal gland in animals and regulates sleep and wakefulness. (Wikipedia). I get a timed released version from Swansons vitamins that works well. I also get Valerian (a perennial flowering plant native to Europe and Asia... Wikipedia) from the same source. However, I am not sure what is sold in Sweden. Try a local health food store and see what they have in these.


Melatonin is actually prescription based in Sweden (and actually the whole EU from what I can tell). The medical community is starting to accept it - 10 years ago they had never heard of it.

Posted by: yet another brit 18.May.2019, 11:44 AM

If you are really desperate for melatonin, you have your very own source available 24/7:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13318103-100-science-a-glass-of-urine-a-day-keeps-the-stress-away/

Posted by: Bsmith 18.May.2019, 12:15 PM

Interesting, but if I need melatonin, I think I'd rather take a pill.

Posted by: cootje1976 18.May.2019, 11:27 PM

Weed is frowned upon in this so called 'liberal' state. Thought as well in the beginning that it was allowed, but nope.
Been caught twice with a joint, but didn't get a fine or arrested. Not even a write-up.
1st time I got caught, I was here on a short vacation before moving here finally a year later. As a Dutchman, I am used to legal weed in the most liberal countries; Netherlands, Portugal, and the a handful more.

There is no difference here; in the Netherlands we distinguish between hard and softdrugs, and weed falls in the soft category, and is government controlled, and taxed accordingly.

On the contrary to what many people do think,even though it is legal, we are not a nation of stoners ((at least not all the time), but jokes aside, it remains purely recreational, no one lives on this stuff where I am from, only people with certain chronic conditions, or cancer. And then it is prescribed anyways.

Coming from that culture it is difficult to understand the reasoning of Swedes in general, who usually go buccwild on booze whenever there is a party.
It is also considered a gateway drug; a opportunity for people to start using so called stronger substances, but the way the majority of the Dutch see it, is that a large portion of that group are idiots, because no 'high' is the same.

Most important, what is being done in Holland, is that people get educated on drugs, because we talk about it more openly and use it openly as well ( not in front of kids, of course). Due to that I think that people over there can handle it better than the Swedes, to whom this is taboo...

Anyhow Swedish people know to find their (soft) drugs anyway, but the quality of the weed here is superbad. Once a year a quality joint in Amsterdam is fine for me. What addiction?

In Sweden, the nature is fine (what I came for), but most people?!...

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 19.May.2019, 12:05 AM

The description as a "gateway" drug is most interesting to me, as an older person I was exposed to it over 65 years ago in New York City...

In the 9th grade two of my classmates OD'ed on the hard stuff...guess what they started on???

I am sure such incidents are a big reason for the Swedish people to fear, yes I said that...early usage of that drug...

And I know of heavy users that suffered and died from lung cancer...

I myself learned by seeing what happened to my classmates and have never used any recreational drug except alcohol and will admit I am close to your description of how the Swedes use it...it's a genetic thing... laugh.gif

Posted by: cootje1976 19.May.2019, 06:49 AM

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 19.May.2019, 12:05 AM) *
The description as a "gateway" drug is most interesting to me, as an older person I was exposed to it over 65 years ago in New York City...

In the 9th grade two of my classmates OD'ed on the hard stuff...guess what they started on???

I am sure such incidents are a big reason for the Swedish people to fear, yes I said that...early usage of that drug...

And I know of heavy users that suffered and died from lung cancer...



I guess the difference is that in the Netherlands at that age that your classmates of on heavy stuff, drugs is a topic in school, and openly talked about. As I said as well the highs are different. Those classmates of yours may just have been experimenting, which is kind of the age that kids do it anyways, so that is of no relevance, knowing the limits of education in the US regarding that topic. In my country that rarely happened, and if it does it is because they were looking for higher thrills and went too far.

As I said the highs are different. We have a proper education system in place that makes sure that people are informed and make the correct choices;
How do we do that? Education! Make sure kids know why it is what is it and to make a correct choice to either use it or in the case of using to talk about it, and that is the Dutch mentality that we do talk publicly about anything. It is kind of in our core.

In case you we wondering about potheads in the Netherlands, there aren't that many. We have a lot of recreational usage, and I seriously don't think that the majority of people that use it on average once every 2 months can be considered a potheads; on the contrary it shows that it is not as addictive as one might think; and I rather have a stoner than a drunk anyday, hands on.
Stoners are relaxed, have the munchies, are usually very happy, and do not exibit any involuntary bowel movements. I have my pick ready...

Cancer I was referring to not that cannabis is a cure, but it makes, thanks to it's properties, the cancer a bit more manageable for patients, even if they lose the battle at some point.

We have a simple mindset: my body is my property and no government or person can tell me what to do with it; as long as I am not causing any harm to others and people around me I should be able to do what I please. I can treat my body as a temple, or a house party. My pick.

And even though we have legal weed, legal prostitution, and other things that are illegal elsewhere, thing do not run out of control in those legal areas, yes there is hard drugs and turf wars because of that, but on the legalized part it is all fine and dandy.
I did realize in my short time here now that Sweden likes to 'protect' it's citizens, but maybe that protection should be done more on the Social economic side, an consumer protection; for a Socialised State those 2 things are lacking...

Posted by: Bsmith 19.May.2019, 12:10 PM

QUOTE (cootje1976 @ 19.May.2019, 06:49 AM) *
We have a simple mindset: my body is my property and no government or person can tell me what to do with it; as long as I am not causing any harm to others and people around me I should be able to do what I please. I can treat my body as a temple, or a house party. My pick.

And even though we have legal weed, legal prostitution, and other things that are illegal elsewhere, thing do not run out of control in those legal areas, yes there is hard drugs and turf wars because of that, but on the legalized part it is all fine and dandy.
I did realize in my short time here now that Sweden likes to 'protect' it's citizens, but maybe that protection should be done more on the Social economic side, an consumer protection; for a Socialised State those 2 things are lacking...



This is only true to the extent that you are your own responsibility. If you rely on the government to pay for your healthcare because you effed up your body treating it like a house party, then I beg to differ. Or if you spend all your money on weed and neglect your children and the state has to pick up the slack. The government does not make money. It only takes money from some and gives to others and if it is taking money from me to give to you so you can live a party hardy lifestyle...then I have the right to speak up.

From reading your posts, I know that you are responsible and this doesn't apply to you but we have all seen people who abuse the system.

Posted by: john.boy 19.May.2019, 12:18 PM

QUOTE (SmokerT69 @ 7.Jun.2018, 02:05 PM) *
Considering how liberal Sweden is, I just assumed weed would be normal here. Boy was I wrong lol.



QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 16.May.2019, 04:40 PM) *
They still think it’s the devils lettuce.


You might just find you are both wrong cool.gif
It is everywhere, and some years ago the police even declared that there is now so much domestic production that the crime gangs no longer have need of imports! This is most likely a result of such strict alcohol politics that, especially for teens, it is easier and cheaper than buying booze.

Why you might not have come across this is more to do with the fear of the crusading moral police (and media) from the left of center, who will try to destroy your life once you do things they do not approve of. This is why many of the opinions of politicians and media that spout the correctness and moral high-ground of Swedes, is absolute rubbish, it is that the Swedish population does the opposite yet is afraid of that moral minority, so keep it quiet(ish) rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 19.May.2019, 07:57 PM

QUOTE (john.boy @ 19.May.2019, 01:18 PM) *
You might just find you are both wrong cool.gif
It is everywhere, and some years ago the police even declared that there is now so much domestic production that the crime gangs no longer have need of imports! This is most likely a result of such strict alcohol politics that, especially for teens, it is easier and cheaper than buying booze.

Why you might not have come across this is more to do with the fear of the crusading moral police (and media) from the left of center, who will try to destroy your life once you do things they do not approve of. This is why many of the opinions of politicians and media that spout the correctness and moral high-ground of Swedes, is absolute rubbish, it is that the Swedish population does the opposite yet is afraid of that moral minority, so keep it quiet(ish) rolleyes.gif


Yes it is around. A dog knows how to sniff. And what inconsistencies in quality and quantities around at any given time.

I’m more REFERing to the policy... the policy which has prompted a majority of the gun violence in Sweden I would say.

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