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Indian family moving to Sweden

Can we survive on just one person's income?

Bano
post 1.Sep.2009, 11:10 AM
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Hi!!! I am moving to Stockholm in the last week of October with my husband and a kid who is 13 months old!!! My husband already has a job and i will have to pick up one when im there ... i have spoken to a lot of people who have lived in Sweden and have come back now ... they all have one thing to say and that is you cannot survive on one persons income in sweden ... is that the case?? How much is the cost of living a desent life in sweden ... taking all the living expenses into account such as - accomodation, grocery, day care, transportation, electricity, water, telephone, taxes etc ... Can someone please give an insight???
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Sofia_stockholm
post 1.Sep.2009, 11:58 AM
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Nonsense! It is definitely possible to live off one salary - plenty of people do it, including my husband and I. Admittedly you won't live a "high life", but you definitely get by.

Average costs depends on where you live, what form of accommodation you have, what your expected life style is etc. I can give you examples of our monthly budget, though.

Rent 5600:- (two bedroom flat, unusually low for a garden flat in this location)
Electricity 700-800:- (this is unusually high for a flat of this size)
Broadband/phone/TV 800-1000:- (we have a package deal where we get all services)
Various insurances 410:- (both of us, home insurance is covered my my union fees)

Our monthly food bill is between 2500-4000:- a month depending on how much we buy and if we go shopping in the local supermarket or go out to the large retail park.
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skane refugee
post 1.Sep.2009, 01:00 PM
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Also depends how big the 'one-person' income is of course! ;o)

Is hubby moving over to become CEO of H&M?!? ;o)
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Bano
post 1.Sep.2009, 01:22 PM
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Thanks a lot both of you ... lol!!! He is not a CEO of H & M ...coz then i wouldn't be worried about these things ... But Sofia thanx for sharing your household expenses as that really gives me a good idea ...

Another thing i really want to know is a good place to live in ... i have read up most of the blogs that are suburbs vs city centre etc ... but thanks to ... too much information i am now thoroughly confused ... as my husband would be working in the heart of Stokholm and his work will make him travel a lot out of Sweden thus for intervals i will be with my kid alone ... what would you recommend?? I understand that accomodation is very difficult to find and one cannot ask and find it in the same place ... but i would still want an idea...
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kaze
post 1.Sep.2009, 01:30 PM
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City centres are not for kids.
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skane refugee
post 1.Sep.2009, 01:33 PM
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suggest when choosing an area that you keep in mind the potential social life ...

... it's the friends you find when moving somewhere completely new that 'make or break' life as an expat ...

... and you won't want to travel too far with a 13 month old to socialise ...

it's notoriously hard to break into established Swedish social circles unless you have a Swedish 'other half' ... suggest you look at nice areas with a reasonably large expat community, ideally with a decent number of fellow expats from your own country to help with tips and introductions from your own cultural perspective ...

good luck!
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Localer
post 1.Sep.2009, 02:03 PM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 27.Oct.2006

QUOTE (Bano @ 1.Sep.2009, 02:22 PM) *
Thanks a lot both of you ... lol!!! He is not a CEO of H & M ...coz then i wouldn't be worried about these things ... But Sofia thanx for sharing your hous ... (show full quote)


we recently moved to hammarby sjöstad, i strongly recommend this area since everything is so beautiful and new...and it close to the sea.

these are our monthly expenses, both of us are working

rent : 14800 sek pm ( 68 sqm )
electric : average 500-600 sek pm
internet/telefon/tv : 799 sek pm
transportation card : 690 sek per person
average food/groceries for a week : 2000-3000 a week ( sometimes it cost more since we love to buy ben&jerry ice cream, fresh real juices etc)...

but yeah, it depends how your live style looks like...if you husband can earn more then 30,000k before tax, don't worry biggrin.gif ...although its just Do-able..

welcome and enjoy Stockholm, you'll love it.
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Puffin
post 1.Sep.2009, 02:18 PM
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Location: Dalarna
Joined: 5.Apr.2006

What sort of income are you talking about?
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Beef
post 1.Sep.2009, 02:21 PM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 7.Feb.2006

QUOTE (Localer @ 1.Sep.2009, 03:03 PM) *
we recently moved to hammarby sjöstad, i strongly recommend this area since everything is so beautiful and new...and it close to the sea.these are our monthly expenses, both ... (show full quote)


I lived threre.. But.. 14800 sek pm .. Are you sure?? 2nd hand contract.?
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byke
post 1.Sep.2009, 02:34 PM
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Location: Europe
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Living in the city is allot harder to find places compared to suburbs and rents also can reflect that.
I personally would recommend Årsta as it is very close to the city, and their is a bi-lingual kindergatan in liljeholmen very close. (I used to live their)

The rent is "average" also.
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byke
post 1.Sep.2009, 02:35 PM
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Location: Europe
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Hammarby is crazy priced.

Even if you own your apartment over there you can expect to pay an average of 9k pm on upkeep charges.

This is because all the properties are so new.
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Localer
post 1.Sep.2009, 02:46 PM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 27.Oct.2006

QUOTE (Beef @ 1.Sep.2009, 03:21 PM) *
I lived threre.. But.. 14800 sek pm .. Are you sure?? 2nd hand contract.?


no, first hand...we on 4th floor and facing sea side biggrin.gif
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Furu
post 2.Sep.2009, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE (Bano @ 1.Sep.2009, 12:10 PM) *
Hi!!! I am moving to Stockholm in the last week of October with my husband and a kid who is 13 months old!!! My husband already has a job and i will ha ... (show full quote)


Finding a place is very difficult in Stockholm. The far you go the cheaper it gets. Expect to pay around 30% of your income in taxes.
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Sofia_stockholm
post 2.Sep.2009, 07:32 AM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 12.Nov.2007

QUOTE (Bano @ 1.Sep.2009, 02:22 PM) *
Another thing i really want to know is a good place to live in ... i have read up most of the blogs that are suburbs vs city centre etc ... but thanks to ... too much informat ... (show full quote)


I'm sure plenty of people are better served to tell you about the places where they live, so I will just speak for "our" council.

We live in Djursholm, which is one of the "fancier" suburbs just outside the city centre, but in the not so expensive end of it. We pay 5600:-/month for our flat of 72 sqm with a small garden. This is, however, a low rent compared to many other's.

The council where we are is Danderyd, a low tax council with good amenities. There are International schools close by, as well as day care and kindergartens where English is spoken. Close to the University and about 15 minutes by train and tube to central Stockholm. Around where we are it's usually reasonably easy to get accommodation as many people are subletting flats in their large houses. These parts of houses usually cost a bit more than our flat does, though.

We are also only about 25-30 minutes away from Arlanda airport.

Even though we're just 15 minutes outside of the centre we still have a working farm just up the road and we've got both lakes and the sea on walking distance. Those who like golfing have two courses in the area and we're well provided for with sporting facilities.

As far as we're concerned - the best place around Stockholm that you can find!
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byke
post 2.Sep.2009, 10:00 AM
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Location: Europe
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QUOTE (Sofia_stockholm @ 2.Sep.2009, 08:32 AM) *
There are International schools close by.


Just out of interest, which international schools are you referring to?
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