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UK to Swedish Driving licence

problem with new licence

hjoian
post 16.Oct.2019, 09:26 AM
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Joined: 25.Jun.2009

So, what with Brexit rearing its ugly head, a quick licence change was needed. I followed the info given on the website, and as i had C1,C1E, D1, D1E on my current licence, information regarding a medical to keep them on my licence might be required.

After maybe a week, i had a nice phone call telling me that if i wished to keep those entitlements, i would have to undergo a medical exam. As i have used the extra entitlements for income, it was worth paying for.

Medical examination paid for and passed. Further letter recieved to go and take a photo and signature arrived, which was duly done the same day.

Collected my new licence 2 days ago, but the C1E, D1, D1E have been removed.
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As usual, the curse of Swedish institutions meant i spoke to someone who said i had no right to them, but could not explain whay i was asked to take a medical to keep them. The person who i did speak to has been "unavailiable" for the past 2 days, and i am still waiting to receive a follow up email to explain this.

Anyone else suffered the same fate? How did you fix it, if you did?

Cheers, Ian
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Martian
post 18.Oct.2019, 05:33 PM
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Joined: 24.Jun.2015

You just had a little taste of Swedish bureaucracy. You will be alright eventually. I'd make sure I get it sorted out before 31st of October though.
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Dave
post 18.Oct.2019, 06:07 PM
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I’m just going through the same process. Due to age I’ve no need for the medical, but noticed they’ve missed C1E, D1, and D1E from the letter they sent me asking for money and picture.

I’ve not spoken to them yet, but it seems the swedish C1 covers towing a trailer, same as C1E. But the swedish D1 is for buses up to 12 ton and 8 meters, which is more than the UK D1, 16 seats and not for hire or reward.

I wonder if this is why they are not included?
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skogsbo
post 19.Oct.2019, 08:06 PM
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Joined: 20.Sep.2011

You probably had them through grand father rights in the UK. If you were over a certain age you kept them on your licence but after a certain year any new drivers didn't have them. Switching licence to a new country is a bit like a fresh start. You've lost any grand father rights.
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bonviveur
post 20.Oct.2019, 07:17 AM
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Location: Värmland
Joined: 12.Oct.2015

QUOTE (hjoian @ 16.Oct.2019, 10:26 AM) *
So, what with Brexit rearing its ugly head, a quick licence change was needed. I followed the info given on the website, and as i had C1,C1E, D1, D1E on my current licence, in ... (show full quote)


hi, interesting to know what was medical exam cost?
myself just going to keep my EU b,c,e license, not worth exchange trouble with such high probability of swedens bureaucrats messing things up.
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Dave
post 21.Oct.2019, 04:16 PM
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Joined: 18.Oct.2019

I spoke with Transportstyrelsen today about the missing groups. According to the lady I dont get C1E etc as these were given ’free’ in the Uk. So was C1, but that didnt seem to bother her and is included. She claimed Dvla say I’m not entitled.

I spoke then to Dvla, and they said EU rules state that they are obliged to give exactly the same as the UK licence, whether they are grand fathered or not, ’free’ or otherwise. The entitelment is valid throughout the EU.

So I will accept the new licence as is, and fight it later. As a side note, should there be no brexit deal, UK licence holders should then be able to reapply for their UK licence.
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Cheeseroller
post 27.Oct.2019, 01:47 AM
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Location: Germany
Joined: 10.Apr.2007

Perhaps this is not relevant to you. My UK licence dated from 1975. When I came to change it Germany, I lost my MC licence code. The problem is that when the UK joined the EU, the codes became harmonised but this is sometimes overlooked and classes can be lost when converting these old licences

I had kept a copy of the old licence and we had a letter from DVLA confirming the classes, so I could get it rectified.

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hjoian
post 30.Oct.2019, 09:17 AM
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Joined: 25.Jun.2009

Thanks for the responses.

Seems the Swedish C1 does cover "light truck with trailer" . much for EU harmonization. The D1 and D1E as someone mentioned, are different from UK regulations. However, as Dave points out, what has been given in another EU member state should be transferable, but this will have to be fought at a higher level, the main issue is once they have gone from a licence, i have been informed you can never get them back.
I paid 700kr for a medical, this applies for C1 class, and was not explained on the website or anyone i spoke to about losing the other entitlements, they seem to have gone into "ignore and perhaps he will go away" mode. I was also told C1 has to be renewed every 5 years with a medical. I used it on a regular basis when back in the UK, so was not in my interest to give it up.
Regards to Brexit, if there was no deal, UK licence will no longer be valid here anyway or anywhere in EU, save for short visits. That fustercluck is an ongoing nightmare. Thanks all.
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Dave
post 30.Oct.2019, 06:32 PM
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Joined: 18.Oct.2019

I checked with DVLA and they keep a record of entitlements, that can be returned if a new UK licence is issued again.

Yes, you’re right, C1 covers a trailer as well, C1E here is for 12 tons. I think the problem with D1 here is it doesnt differentiate between pleasure and hire or reward, its only for hire or reward, for which proper qualifications are required.
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