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Posted by: blueearthling 25.Nov.2013, 02:14 AM

Hello, I have been checking this place out to try and find out if it is possible to get SKY tv in Sweden but it has raised more questions than answers. I will be living about 25km NE of Stockholm.

Can anyone help me by telling me what equipment I need and if I will still actually be able to view when this new satellite thingy is working and the channels have transfered over?

If its not going to work, can someone tell me what this ex pat box thing is please?

Thanks. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Hisingen 25.Nov.2013, 12:38 PM

With a potential move over from Astra 1N satellite to Astra 2E in the offing, for the time being it is far better to wait a while. Testing is apparently complete, and looking at the tracking 2E is very slowly on the move to its planned position.
What equipment you will need over there on the east coast I am not in a position to say, other than, for Sky, the Sky box and card of course.
But as things look from the planned footprint, there will be several channels that will no longer be available.
The move to 2F was, for some unknown reason, never completed, but all the signs are that the current luxury of the 1N and the many channels is purely a temporary measure, albeit a very pleasant one for us in Scandinavia.
There are others on the forum who live nearer to your region than I, who may answer you, but even they are awaiting the eventual move to see what remains available.
If you are curious, then the Astra2forum.com is the place to go, with many questions, and some answers currently.

Posted by: Hisingen 26.Nov.2013, 01:09 PM

And to blueearthling, so many thanks for the acknowledgement- - -
You make us wonder why we, who answer, bother.

Posted by: blueearthling 3.Dec.2013, 08:53 AM

QUOTE (Hisingen @ 26.Nov.2013, 12:09 PM) *
And to blueearthling, so many thanks for the acknowledgement- - -
You make us wonder why we, who answer, bother.


Really! This is the first time I have had a chance to log back in and see your reply. Thank you very much for the information its much appreciated however please don't judge my manners, you would have received thanks more promptly if I had been on line.

Posted by: Rick Methven 3.Dec.2013, 10:46 AM

The switch over from 1N to 2E looks like it will be delayed until the new year as it is still not at 28.2E. Once there it will have to handed over to SES and testing can begin on a test transponder which will take time and then BBC and ITV will not want to risk switching during the critical Christmas schedule. The switch to 2F was supposed to be last December but did not happen until the spring for BBC HD and channel 5.

Astra 2E is supposed to have the same footprint as 2F so if you can get any reception on Channel 5 now you should be able to get the same from 2E. I think that Astra/SES have actually been tweaking the footprint a bit on 2F. When the channel 5/5* transponder moved to 2F, I lost them completely apart from a very pixilated reception during daylight. In the last couple of months, I have been getting reasonable reception all day and night with my 120cm dish in Linkoping. so maybe there is some hope yet. If it does not work out I would need a 150cm + dish which would be too big to mount on the roof so I would have to go the broadband route.

I have done some research on the alternatives and the best solution I found is http://www.ex-pat.tv/packages.php

Posted by: blueearthling 3.Dec.2013, 11:26 AM

Thanks for the info Rick.

I was looking at getting a 1.2m dish, I am not that worried about losing BBC HD or C5 I am more interested in keeping other channels that I currently use here in the UK like sky sports channels for football and cricket and the movie channels.

Do any of you know where I can get a good deal on a dish that size? They seem to be cheaper in England but I don't know how much it will cost to get it delivered to Sweden.

Posted by: Rick Methven 3.Dec.2013, 02:24 PM

In stockholm you will definately need at least 1.5m dish to get anything at all. For sky you will need to bring your uk sky box and card and have a UK address for the billing. Technically illegal but Sky are not going to turn down money. They know that many expats are watching Sky outside the UK.

Posted by: Piranha Jack 4.Dec.2013, 08:45 AM

http://hola.org is a free VPN for Windows, Mac & Android that gives you access to all the major TV services around the world. I've been using it to access BBC iPlayer, 4OD, ITV Player & RTE Player and it works well with all of them. Oh and did I mention it's FREE!

Posted by: Rick Methven 15.Dec.2013, 08:11 PM

I have had an app on my android tablet called TV guide. It used to be just a program guide for BBC/ITV. the latest update allows you to select the country and platform ( freesat/terrestial) and then when you click on the station Icon in the program guide you get to see the current program about 30 seconds behind the live broadcast. No VPN/proxy or anything just free UK TV via a Swedish ISP. With a Miracast TV connected to your network, you can share it from your Android/iphone phone or tablet direct to your TV.

PS if you are looking for the app it has a red heart shaped logo in the app store and it is FREE!!!!

Posted by: rentz 11.Feb.2014, 10:52 AM

I use something different to watch Sky/BBC etc. called SmartDNS from Overplay.
This enables you to virtually change your location by simply changing your DNS servers and select where you would like to appear to be.
While it's not free, they charge you $4.95 per month, it's so clever. I simply change the DNS on my router and enjoy all streaming services from around the world on any device in my house, including BBC iPlayer and Sky on the PS3 or tablet.
No connecting to VPN and no bandwidth reduction due to tunneling, you just use your devices as you would normally do.
Highly recommended.
Go here to learn more: http://www.overplay.net/#a_aid=rentz

BR,
Fredrik

Posted by: Gordy 11.Feb.2014, 11:29 AM

Hola unblocker does the same thing and is completely free so no need for anyone to click on your affiliate link!

Posted by: rentz 11.Feb.2014, 02:51 PM

Great, thanks, I'll try Hola, no reason to pay for something you don't have to.

Posted by: rentz 11.Feb.2014, 03:32 PM

QUOTE (Gordy @ 11.Feb.2014, 10:29 AM) *
Hola unblocker does the same thing and is completely free so no need for anyone to click on your affiliate link!
Could you give some directions? I've setup an account with hola, but I can't seem to find the settings for DNS, only plugins for the browsers. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Posted by: Hisingen 11.Feb.2014, 11:50 PM

I too have tried Hola, but seem to get nowhere,, so any further tips and info will be looked at with interest.
A run-through of the channels now available on Sky shows that both BBC & ITV have 'departed', along with all the 4's and 5's. Sky box signal strength/quality are down to 70%/40% respectively, yet there is no digital break-up in the picture - which is something of an anomaly.
I saw that the ITV channels an Channel 4 were being received in K

Posted by: Rick Methven 12.Feb.2014, 08:47 AM

I went to my local satellite installer yesterday and he is ordering the Gibertini 150 for mm e with expected installation next week sometime. The current CM 120 is mast mounted on the chimney and I have checked that the new dish which is 166x155cm will fit on the same mast as the current 120x130cm dish. For me I get an improment fro 42.0db to 43.2db which should be enough to up the BBC/ITV quality from 40 to 50%. Typically a 90 cm dish gives 39.5 db amplification.
Once I get my new dish up, the old one is for sale at a good price to be discussed!!

Posted by: Gordy 12.Feb.2014, 08:50 AM

QUOTE (rentz @ 11.Feb.2014, 03:32 PM) *
Could you give some directions? I've setup an account with hola, but I can't seem to find the settings for DNS, only plugins for the browsers. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

I just installed the plug in for Chrome and then watch iPlayer full screen. You have to use it with a browser, you cannot install it on your router.
I have a fanless PC running Windows 8 hooked up to my TV.

Posted by: intrepidfox 12.Feb.2014, 09:24 AM

Use this. Just pick the channel that has watch and enjoy

http://www.tvguide.co.uk/default.asp?thisday=&thisTime=

Posted by: Rick Methven 12.Feb.2014, 11:48 AM

I have TV guide on my Nexus tablet and can watch all the UK channels live. Currently I am using Filmon on a pc coupled to the TV to watch BBC/ITV in the evenings when they are not viewable on freesat. The problem is that you can not record programs. Yesterday ITV HD went down around 19:00 but ITV1+1 was still good so I recorded Emmerdale on that channel for the missus. She just tried to watch it and said that it went off after about 10 minutes. If she can not have her daily fix of Emmerdale that she has been addicted to for the past 25 years, life in our house is going to be bad. angry.gif

I am hoping that the new 150cm dish that should come next week should help.

Posted by: Ivor stephé 12.Feb.2014, 12:04 PM

Wrong again.

Having just had a look and tried it out, filmon does let you record.
You can do this directly to a local hardrive for free, or to a cloud based hard drive for a fee.

http://www.filmon.com/download/hdi

Posted by: Ivor stephé 12.Feb.2014, 12:06 PM

TV guide appears to just stream filmon content.

Posted by: Rick Methven 12.Feb.2014, 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Ivor steph? @ 12.Feb.2014, 12:04 PM) *
Wrong again.

Having just had a look and tried it out, filmon does let you record.
You can do this directly to a local hardrive for free, or to a cloud based hard drive for a fee.

http://www.filmon.com/download/hdi

Yes you are wrong as usual Ivor the big mouthed idiot.
You have to pay to record a program and heavily on top of the ?9.95 montly fee. Plus you can not schedule to program a series or record one channel while watching another.

Posted by: Ivor stephé 12.Feb.2014, 05:03 PM

Wrong again laugh.gif

Filmon users can record content for free, by downloading it to their hard drive.
Maybe find a person who knows how to use a computer and I am sure they can show you how to do it.

Posted by: Rick Methven 12.Feb.2014, 07:51 PM

Ivor arsehole,
I have been using computers before your daddy was a twinkle in his daddies drunken eyes. And have been writing computer programs for 40 years professionaly.

As usual you make completely unfounded claims without even your usual cut and past links.

Posted by: Ivor stephé 12.Feb.2014, 08:17 PM

laugh.gif


You must be a computer master, especially if you can't even work out how to record a show on film on, when there is a huge red button. laugh.gif

Posted by: rentz 12.Feb.2014, 11:31 PM

A lot of good suggestions indeed. None has been as smooth as just changing the DNS on your router though, so I went out to find a free replacement to Overplay and I have a candidate: www.smartdnsproxy.com
I've only tried it for a couple of hours, but it seems to be working just fine.

Posted by: Hallsta 7.Oct.2014, 11:16 AM

Has anyone got a UK picture via sat dish?

I have a 115 dish with no uk tv except sky news.

Is a 155cm dish worth all the money??

Posted by: intrepidfox 7.Oct.2014, 11:31 AM

QUOTE (Hallsta @ 7.Oct.2014, 11:16 AM) *
Has anyone got a UK picture via sat dish?

I have a 115 dish with no uk tv except sky news.

Is a 155cm dish worth all the money??


It depends on where you live. On the west coast i need at least 130cm. A member on TL that lives in Link

Posted by: Essingen55 7.Oct.2014, 05:13 PM

Has Filmon died? I can't get my ipad app to work at all.

Posted by: intrepidfox 7.Oct.2014, 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Essingen55 @ 7.Oct.2014, 05:13 PM) *
Has Filmon died? I can't get my ipad app to work at all.


No. Just checked, working ok

Posted by: Hisingen 7.Oct.2014, 08:14 PM

A small thing I noted the other day - that was that the BBC are looking at ways to plugging the loophole whereby people have been able to download programmes from iPlayer onto their tablets - without having the need of a TV licence.
Not having a tablet myself, it has never, nor will, affect me, but no doubt some of you reading this will find the news disturbing. Plugging the loophole will undoubtedly be done some way at source.

I might add that currently, with heavy cloud and rain, most transmissions from Astra 2E and 2F - the UK beam - are not coming in - BBC, ITV, Channels 4 & 5 and associated.
Who knows, maybe the wind is blowing the signals off course rolleyes.gif

On the other hand, transmissions from Astra 2A and Eutelsat 28A, the other satellites at 28.2

Posted by: Rick Methven 8.Oct.2014, 07:19 PM

QUOTE (Essingen55 @ 7.Oct.2014, 06:13 PM) *
Has Filmon died? I can't get my ipad app to work at all.

Get an Android or windows tablet filmon and TVguide.co.uk still working great. The missus watches Emmerdale on the tablet while I watch something else on freesat. Yesterday was a bad reception day for BBC/ITV due rain but got better reception on BBC by switching from London to Wales.

Posted by: MrCurry 29.Mar.2016, 10:08 PM

I'm moving to örebro soon. If I bring my UK sky box and UK viewing card and just keep the direct debit running, will I be able to pick up sky sports with a 120cm dish, or is 150cm recommended? There was some talk earlier in the thread about changes in satellites so I'm not sure what the current situation might be?

Posted by: Hisingen 29.Mar.2016, 10:28 PM

Maintaining your Sky subscription that way 'in the UK' should allow continued service. They really are only interested in your subs, and as long as they are paid in the UK - - - - .
The size of dish. Especially there in Örebro, I would say the 150cm to be the better bet. I have Rick's old 120cm here on the west coast with an Inverto Quad LNB, and as long as the weather is not too bad - heavy rain, snow, here or above the UK - I get all that is available on both Sky and Freesat. It faltered a little last night, but that was due to the weather over England - or shall we say between the satellite and the ground transmitter, since it was reasonably fine here. But with even the channels in HD coming in fine then the signal strength/quality are of sufficently high level. The satellite situation has stabilized now, hence the pretty good reception standard.

Good luck, anyway. Let us know what results you get as and when. It is good to know recpetion standards in different parts of the country.

Posted by: MrCurry 30.Mar.2016, 11:50 AM

Thanks Hisingen, I will try it and report back. That's if I can get permission from my better half for a 1.5m sat dish on the side of the house smile.gif

Posted by: MrCurry 30.Mar.2016, 12:29 PM

One more question - how can I find a sat dish installer in my area? What would be the right search term to use in Swedish for "satellite dish installer"?

Posted by: Hisingen 30.Mar.2016, 08:42 PM

Parabolinstallatör, satelit tv installatör.
You can try using Eniro.se for the Örebro area. using either of the above 'descriptions' to see what turns up. Often, if you have a TV store nearby, they can point you in the right direction.

Posted by: MrCurry 31.Mar.2016, 09:35 AM

Thanks Hisingen

Posted by: MrCurry 31.Mar.2016, 12:08 PM

I don't suppose there are any planning permissions required to put such a large (150cm) satellite dish on the side of your house in Sweden are there? The neighbours might well speculate NASA have moved in, but I wouldn't want a knock at door from the local council saying I have to take it down.

Posted by: sarcastrix 31.Mar.2016, 02:45 PM

MrC, I have a Gibertini 150 dish in Ö and Sky is watchable most times of the day, 120 just won't cut it in bad weather.

I'd suggest comparing dish prices (Paraboler) in UK before moving here as like everything else, they ain't cheap, see: www.satpro.se

Planing permission? No, as long as your not living in an apartment you shouldn't get complaints.

As for installers I've never found a good one (or been prepared to pay their rip off fees) - even Spanish workmen put their Swedish counterparts to shame.

Posted by: Hisingen 31.Mar.2016, 04:39 PM

QUOTE (sarcastrix @ 31.Mar.2016, 02:45 PM) *
- - - -
As for installers I've never found a good one (or been prepared to pay their rip off fees) - even Spanish workmen put their Swedish counterparts to shame.

Well, I guesss there are good and bad everywhere, but the three with whom I have had dealings here in Northern Bohuslän over many years have been absolutely tops, both with regard to trimming my antennae and dishes, and with relation to the cost.
You simply cannot generalise without being disprespectful to the good installers. My neighbours have the same installer as me of late, and, even if they do not take in Sky, they all sing his praises. He is also the one who is assisting them with the advent of fibre broadband and TV here, adding to his services.
Although I do admit we do not have any Spanish competition here - - - - - rolleyes.gif .

Posted by: MrCurry 5.Apr.2016, 11:25 AM

QUOTE (sarcastrix @ 31.Mar.2016, 03:45 PM) *
MrC, I have a Gibertini 150 dish in Ö and Sky is watchable most times of the day, 120 just won't cut it in bad weather.

I'd suggest comparing dish prices (Paraboler) in UK before moving here as like everything else, they ain't cheap, see: www.satpro.se


Thanks, that's useful info. When you say watchable most times of the day are you saying its ok unless it's raining / snowing heavily? Or is there some other factor affecting reception which I'm not aware of?

Posted by: Hisingen 5.Apr.2016, 06:11 PM

It is down to the weather, either over here or over the UK transmitters. Either can affect the signal which, after all, does have quite a way to travel. Last night here on the west coast I lost out to some extent on BBC, ITV, Ch's 4 & 5, these being tied to the UK footprint, and which we get more or less by the grace of the gods. My Sky box is some 10 years old now, by Pace, with no HD or anything like that. The Humax Freesat is one year old, providing some channels in HD also, and you can tell the difference.
You have to be prepared to sacrifice viewing at times, but most of the Sky channels are not on the UK beam and as such seldom suffer from the weather. I was watching a BBC programmes about possible Viking finds on Newfoundland when the programmes broke up, but returned towards the end enabling me to see the result. Missing that would have been a disappointment, but that is the risk we have to accept out on the fringe, unless we have a ginormous dish. Not far from me there was once the Earth Satellite Station in Tanumshede, and one of those dishes would give a fair signal - they are about 30M Dia. But the upkeep would also be equally ginormous - - -

So yer pays yer money an' yer takes yer pick. Can't say the same about the weather, though.

Posted by: Mart123 6.Apr.2016, 10:45 AM

Disclaimer: I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this is repeat info.

I've been using this for about 9 months now with no issues (and no satellite dish)... http://expatvision.tv/

The website and method of signing up look sketchy, but it's genuinely a good service which works well - I have more issues with my Telia TV service than with this. I know several other guys who also have it with no complaints. You get the full Sky package (incl. sports and movies) for EUR 35 a month. You can also replay any show up to 14 days in the past from a large number of the channels. All you need is a half decent internet connection and the box they sell for about EUR 100. They claim that it complies with EU law, and I guess there must be something to that given that Sky haven't manage to shut them down.

Posted by: MrCurry 7.Apr.2016, 07:44 AM

Thanks Mart, that actually looks like a very good option. I'm going to give it a try I think. Some brief research this morning seems to indicate the MAG250 streaming box is available cheaply (£35 delivered) direct from Hong Kong via AliExpress app/website. This stacks up very favourably against a £500 satellite dish!

It'll take me a couple of months to get set up but I'll try to remember to come back to this thread and update whether it worked for me. Appreciate your suggestion Mart...

Posted by: sarcastrix 8.Apr.2016, 07:38 AM

I have a Skybox f5s (Openbox V8S on amazon) and pay £20 per year for all the channels along with two Sky HD boxes on FreeSat. But of course you still need a dish.

Posted by: MrCurry 12.Apr.2016, 12:32 PM

Hi - can you elaborate a bit on what this skybox f5s is, and how it works? When you say you need a dish, is it a 150cm dish that's required? The channel I am most interested in is sky sports F1 HD. Thanks

Posted by: wondering_again 12.Apr.2016, 01:21 PM

Have any of you guys actually messed about with Kodi and using a subscription from Cs-kings.biz.

I am using a subscription from one of the providers from here and can honestly it beats having to muck around with a satellite.

Posted by: sarcastrix 12.Apr.2016, 01:41 PM

QUOTE (wondering_again @ 12.Apr.2016, 12:21 PM) *
Have any of you guys actually messed about with Kodi and using a subscription from Cs-kings.biz.

I am using a subscription from one of the providers from here and can honestly it beats having to muck around with a satellite.


Kodi is the best way this year however, i've been stuck here 10 years so have all the hardware in place smile.gif

Posted by: MrCurry 13.Apr.2016, 07:27 AM

Thanks guys, I have gone ahead and bought a mag254 box from eBay but rather than go the expatvision route, I've bought an 80 USD annual subscription from iptvprivateserver.com who claim to offer all the channels. I'll give it a test and if it proves to be reliable I'll come back let you know, in case others are interested. I'm not expecting it to be perfect at that price.

I don't want to give anyone duff info and have already noticed at least one missing channel, so will get to know it a bit better before directing anyone else that way. Just to mention however that I found it by searching on YouTube for videos with "mag254" in the title. Lots of info out there

Posted by: intrepidfox 16.Apr.2016, 07:12 PM

You can watch lots of UK tv inc Sky using Mobdro

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