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Posted by: sarah02 6.Jan.2011, 07:21 PM

Hello,

do you know where i can shop pepper spray in stockholm or online( preferably a swedish website). it's really important!

thanks smile.gif

Posted by: Bender B Rodriquez 6.Jan.2011, 07:33 PM

Pepper spray is forbidden in Sweden.

Posted by: gat0 6.Jan.2011, 07:36 PM

Well pepper spray is illegal, but this seems like a good legal alternative: http://www.bodyguard.nu/products/sjalvforsvarsspray_rodfarg.htm

Posted by: sarah02 6.Jan.2011, 08:02 PM

QUOTE (Bender B Rodriquez @ 6.Jan.2011, 07:33 PM) *
Pepper spray is forbidden in Sweden.



QUOTE (gat0 @ 6.Jan.2011, 07:36 PM) *
Well pepper spray is illegal, but this seems like a good legal alternative: http://www.bodyguard.nu/products/sjalvforsvarsspray_rodfarg.htm

i did not know that it's illegal!!
well how do women defend themselves here!!!

Posted by: sarah02 6.Jan.2011, 08:03 PM

QUOTE (gat0 @ 6.Jan.2011, 07:36 PM) *
Well pepper spray is illegal, but this seems like a good legal alternative: http://www.bodyguard.nu/products/sjalvforsvarsspray_rodfarg.htm

that seems like a good option. i'll look into it, thanks!

Posted by: Streja 6.Jan.2011, 08:06 PM

Women in Sweden usually make sure that they have their keys in their hands when walking home so they can quickly get into their flats. They also sometimes use alarms and have 112 on speed dial.

I have that spray.

Posted by: jack sprat 6.Jan.2011, 08:56 PM

It was available on ebay by post from the USA.
Most advertisers say no shipping to Europe.
However there are one or two who do.
Naturally package content details describe it as something else.

Posted by: Swedesmith 6.Jan.2011, 09:00 PM

That is my understanding, that it's illegal in Sweden. However, if you can get ahold of it, by far and away best brand is called Spitfire. It's available on Amazon.com. Got a relative coming for a visit soon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un97wWQfNwA

Posted by: sarah02 6.Jan.2011, 09:13 PM

QUOTE (Swedesmith @ 6.Jan.2011, 09:00 PM) *
That is my understanding, that it's illegal in Sweden. However, if you can get ahold of it, by far and away best brand is called Spitfire. It's available on Amazon.com. Got a relative coming for a visit soon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un97wWQfNwA


spitfire seems great, thanks for the link smile.gif

Posted by: Snoopy! 6.Jan.2011, 09:37 PM

I´m dam curious to know sarah02 what is so important to you about accessing this pepper spray & you give a smile.gif face sounds a little sadistic tongue.gif

Posted by: sarah02 6.Jan.2011, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (Snoopy! @ 6.Jan.2011, 09:37 PM) *
I´m dam curious to know sarah02 what is so important to you about accessing this pepper spray & you give a smile.gif face sounds a little sadistic tongue.gif

am only trying to be polite and nice with the smily, why do you have to interpret things the wrong way?! self defense is very important to me so please don't make fun of it!

Posted by: flobalob 6.Jan.2011, 11:58 PM

Wasp and hornet spray is very effective with the added bonus that it can be bought anywhere. Squirt someone in the face with wasp and hornet spray and they will instantly be incapacitated. Then all you women have to do is kick the shit out of them smile.gif

Posted by: pathor 7.Jan.2011, 12:33 AM

But have you felt insecure in Sweden ? I have always felt that Stockholm was quite safe but maybe because I am a guy so I won't understand .

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 7.Jan.2011, 03:48 AM

QUOTE (sarah02 @ 6.Jan.2011, 07:21 PM) *
Hello,

do you know where i can shop pepper spray in stockholm or online( preferably a swedish website). it's really important!

thanks smile.gif



Who are you planning to use it on?

You seem to have a target selected already.

Posted by: Jamtjim 7.Jan.2011, 07:53 AM

QUOTE (sarah02 @ 6.Jan.2011, 08:02 PM) *
i did not know that it's illegal!!
well how do women defend themselves here!!!


By being more aggressive than their potential attacker?

Posted by: flobalob 7.Jan.2011, 09:04 AM

Aggression is a male thing. Women are useless when it comes to aggression, they need to use their brains rather than the aggression and brawn they don't posess.

Posted by: gplusa 7.Jan.2011, 09:15 AM

You were obviously never married to my ex wife.

Posted by: flobalob 7.Jan.2011, 09:21 AM

QUOTE (gplusa @ 7.Jan.2011, 09:15 AM) *
You were obviously never married to my ex wife.


You should have informed her of her limits. " In thought be plain and simple and let your natural sweetness shine through "... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w

Posted by: drubb 7.Jan.2011, 10:30 AM

Such a good sketch. Like the driving one also.

Posted by: 7 7.Jan.2011, 10:45 AM

QUOTE (pathor @ 7.Jan.2011, 12:33 AM) *
But have you felt insecure in Sweden ? I have always felt that Stockholm was quite safe but maybe because I am a guy so I won't understand .

i have never felt unsafe in stockholm. but i know that there's about an equal risk of an unwanted "attack" in stockholm as most other western cities. there's, however a perception of greater security in stockholm, but mugging, pickpocketing and harassment is about on par.

Posted by: red.king 7.Jan.2011, 11:19 AM

I would be careful using any banned self defence substance/spay here in Sweden. If you were (God forbid) attacked and did defend yourself with peppar spray it is possible that you could end up in court!
As another poster mentioned there are *legal* sprays etc. I do like the suggestion of using bug spray though!

Correct me if I am wrong, but it does *feel* like you are concerned about a particular person though? Hope it works out and be safe!

//Red

Posted by: Nemesis 7.Jan.2011, 12:15 PM

QUOTE (flobalob @ 7.Jan.2011, 09:04 AM) *
Aggression is a male thing. Women are useless when it comes to aggression, they need to use their brains rather than the aggression and brawn they don't posess.



You have previously stated you once lived in Sligo. I have seen women fight with men in Sligo when the pubs get out. I have seen the same in Derry.

I have seen women screaming into the faces of men that they were cowards, scum, gay and various other things to get them to riot. I have also seen women riot, throwing petrol bombs, stones and attacking soldiers on the streets in Northern Ireland when I was a kid.

The world of barbie and ken is not real. It is purely make believe to sell some dolls.

Posted by: sarah02 7.Jan.2011, 12:48 PM

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 7.Jan.2011, 03:48 AM) *
Who are you planning to use it on?

You seem to have a target selected already.



QUOTE (red.king @ 7.Jan.2011, 11:19 AM) *
I would be careful using any banned self defence substance/spay here in Sweden. If you were (God forbid) attacked and did defend yourself with peppar spray it is possible that you could end up in court!
As another poster mentioned there are *legal* sprays etc. I do like the suggestion of using bug spray though!

Correct me if I am wrong, but it does *feel* like you are concerned about a particular person though? Hope it works out and be safe!

//Red


my thread gives the impression that i have someone in mind, doesn't it?! to make it clear, i don't have someone in mind and i certainly dídn't mean for my thread to sound like that. i never felt unsafe in sweden and i never leave a possibility of that happenning. is the whole pepper spray subject a little too dark?
thanks guys for your suggestions smile.gif

Posted by: sarah02 7.Jan.2011, 12:57 PM

QUOTE (pathor @ 7.Jan.2011, 12:33 AM) *
But have you felt insecure in Sweden ? I have always felt that Stockholm was quite safe but maybe because I am a guy so I won't understand .

i think stockholm is safe enough but it doen't hurt to be extra safe.

Posted by: Revik 7.Jan.2011, 03:05 PM

QUOTE (flobalob @ 7.Jan.2011, 08:04 AM) *
Aggression is a male thing. Women are useless when it comes to aggression, they need to use their brains rather than the aggression and brawn they don't posess.


This is actually not totally true. I do reserch into aggressive behaviour, and my results show that all you have to do to make a female as aggerssive as a male is not feed her. smile.gif

Posted by: jack sprat 7.Jan.2011, 03:31 PM

QUOTE (Revik @ 7.Jan.2011, 04:05 PM) *
This is actually not totally true. I do reserch into aggressive behaviour, and my results show that all you have to do to make a female as aggerssive as a male is not feed her. smile.gif


...or carelessly mention one of your previous girlfriends,...or
...well,... any one of a thousand other things actually. laugh.gif

Posted by: Swedesmith 7.Jan.2011, 03:49 PM

Among some tribes of American Indians, captives of war were given over to the women to administer torture. They were much more vicious.

Posted by: gplusa 7.Jan.2011, 03:49 PM

were ?

Posted by: Roger O. Thornhill 8.Jan.2011, 03:53 AM

QUOTE (Bender B Rodriquez @ 6.Jan.2011, 08:33 PM) *
Pepper spray is forbidden in Sweden.



Makes no sense, this is why I carry a gun.

Posted by: Roger O. Thornhill 8.Jan.2011, 03:55 AM

QUOTE (flobalob @ 7.Jan.2011, 10:04 AM) *
Aggression is a male thing. Women are useless when it comes to aggression, they need to use their brains rather than the aggression and brawn they don't posess.


Women are much more vicious.

Posted by: anticommie 8.Jan.2011, 05:37 AM

Women are not aloud self defense in sweden. You must be a good victim and not fight back or you will go to jail. Sweden is the most f#cked up society in the western world, looks like islam has already taken over.

Posted by: Smiling Canuk 8.Jan.2011, 07:27 AM

QUOTE (Swedesmith @ 7.Jan.2011, 02:49 PM) *
Among some tribes of American Indians, captives of war were given over to the women to administer torture. They were much more vicious.


I'm sure you must know all about this based on personal experience? Since I'm half Mohawk Indian thanks for the history lesson. I'm sure the Viking tribes did the same. But I won't argue thats the best thing that could happen to male offenders who assault women.

In Canada at least, pepper spray is illegal. The police carry it as an alternative to more lethal forms of force but no citizen may without getting a weapons charge.

My sister is a martial arts expert and taught women defense courses. She'll tell you the best defense is to avoid confrontation situations, but if it happens scream, run and if nothing is left, she knows a half dozen ways to seriously hurt a male attacker.

Posted by: duogrn 8.Jan.2011, 07:39 AM

QUOTE (anticommie @ 8.Jan.2011, 05:37 AM) *
Women are not aloud self defense in sweden. You must be a good victim and not fight back or you will go to jail. Sweden is the most f#cked up society in the western world, looks like islam has already taken over.


Apparently, your spelling, logic and reasoning bespeak *aloud* your IQ level and stance.

When did the legality of pepper spray usage symbolize women's entitlement to basic human rights? Maybe only by your little McCarthyism?

Sorry, Sweden is not following every capricious orders of yours. So are you going to change your id into
antiislam or some other angry/hateful handle?

Posted by: ITkiwi 8.Jan.2011, 08:42 AM

QUOTE (Nemesis @ 7.Jan.2011, 12:15 PM) *
I have seen women screaming into the faces of men that they were cowards, scum, gay and various other things to get them to riot.


Back in NZ there are a fair few women who aren't shy to smack a brother upside the head - no problemo (especially if you don't cook them some eggs).

Posted by: Puffin 8.Jan.2011, 10:22 AM

Pepparspray is classified as a weapon in Sweden - so you need a weapon licence to own it - if you are caught with peppar spray without a licence then the consequences can be severe

- for simple possession the usual sentence is to be fined 3 months' income (90 dagsböter)
- if you use an illegally bought pepparspray on another person then it will be prosecuted as an assault with a weapon (grov misshandel)and a prison sentence is likely

Posted by: timeitright4 8.Jan.2011, 10:33 AM

Sometimes, pepper spray can help.. but now, women are more vigilant and more innovative in defending themselves.

Posted by: Jamtjim 8.Jan.2011, 11:30 AM

Cant you just make your own pepper spray by replacing the streamers in a party popper with ground pepper? Problem solved!

Posted by: Swedesmith 8.Jan.2011, 01:39 PM

@Smiling

"I'm sure you must know all about this based on personal experience? Since I'm half Mohawk Indian thanks for the history lesson. I'm sure the Viking tribes did the same."


Well, my first wife was a member of the Blackfoot tribe and our ill-fated marriage was a bit torturous...

Posted by: Kibiri 8.Jan.2011, 01:46 PM

Classohlson sells this keychain styled thingy, which when you remove the pin makes a very very loud alarm sound.
here http://www.clasohlson.se/Product/Product.aspx?id=158895154
and a spray: http://www.clasohlson.se/Product/Product.aspx?id=158070049

Posted by: sarah02 8.Jan.2011, 03:37 PM

thanks kabiri!

Posted by: anticommie 8.Jan.2011, 06:33 PM

QUOTE (duogrn @ 8.Jan.2011, 06:39 AM) *
When did the legality of pepper spray usage symbolize women's entitlement to basic human rights? Maybe only by your little McCarthyism?

Sorry, Sweden is not following every capricious orders of yours. So are you going to change your id into
antiislam or some other angry/hateful handle?

Yeap its just better if women are rapped and assaulted as to defending themselves. I guess your idea of human rights is different than mine. I think a woman should be able to carry a gun and blow the brains out of some rapist. I am guessing since you think women should be disarmed you are probably a rapist yourself that prays on weak pray. Truly sick thinking you have, next you will be calling for the woman that was rapped to be stoned in the street for all to see.


"God created man, Sam Colt made them equal."

Posted by: Miss Kitten 8.Jan.2011, 06:48 PM

Being rapped is actually really good for your skin and it's an incredibly relaxing spa treatment. First they cover you in hot volcanic mud, rap you up in cotton cloth and then place two cucumber slices on your eyes. Bliss. I wouldn't like to be stoned after being rapped because we all know cannabis and other drugs are illegal in Sweden.

Unless it were a nice hot rock massage, also available at spas.

Posted by: Bender B Rodriquez 8.Jan.2011, 06:51 PM

Yeah, what's so bad about rapping?

Posted by: Miss Kitten 8.Jan.2011, 06:56 PM

QUOTE (Bender B Rodriquez @ 8.Jan.2011, 06:51 PM) *
Yeah, what's so bad about rapping?

Well, I'm not a particularly big fan of hip hop music.

Posted by: Libellula 8.Jan.2011, 07:34 PM

In the 50s there were still hat pins !! around for us to carry, but now these are probably classed as an offensive weapon.

In the 60s and 70s hairspray was the thing and a handbag size can is easily carried and I presume this is still an irritant to the eyes, or the shock that it 'could' be pepper spray to the assailant could just give the victim a few seconds.

Keys in the hand can also do some damage at close range - weapon ?
Keep your wits about you and learn some self defence.

Posted by: 7 8.Jan.2011, 07:55 PM

a lot of women have wrap fantasies

Posted by: 7 8.Jan.2011, 07:58 PM

QUOTE (anticommie @ 8.Jan.2011, 06:33 PM) *
I think a woman should be able to carry a gun and blow the brains out of some rapist. I am guessing since you think women should be disarmed you are probably a rapist yourself that prays on weak pray.

i'd a thunk you'd kinda get off on all them bitch femi-nazi/commies getting what you think they have coming to 'em. you don't like them swedish independent bull-dykes much do ya.

Posted by: anticommie 8.Jan.2011, 08:04 PM

QUOTE (7 @ 8.Jan.2011, 06:58 PM) *
i'd a thunk you'd kinda get off on all them bitch femi-nazi/commies getting what you think they have coming to 'em. you don't like them swedish independent bull-dykes much do ya.

What this forum does show is sweden being one of the highest countries when it comes to the victimization of women the spelling trolls are more worried about 2 words I misspelled then the fact sweden is an unsafe country for women and young girls. But open a hooters and the morons come out in folds about victimizing women. I will stick to the US were people still have the right to self defense. You sheep keep bowing to the criminals.

Posted by: Tennessee Thunder 8.Jan.2011, 08:18 PM

So true,Sweden is a country of sheep where you have NO RIGHT to defend yourself.

Posted by: Bender B Rodriquez 8.Jan.2011, 08:31 PM

QUOTE (anticommie @ 8.Jan.2011, 09:04 PM) *
What this forum does show is sweden being one of the highest countries when it comes to the victimization of women the spelling trolls are more worried about 2 words I misspelled then the fact sweden is an unsafe country for women and young girls. But open a hooters and the morons come out in folds about victimizing women. I will stick to the US were people still have the right to self defense. You sheep keep bowing to the criminals.


You should really learn how to use proper punctuation. People might even take you seriously then.

Posted by: Willy 8.Jan.2011, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (anticommie @ 8.Jan.2011, 05:37 AM) *
Women are not aloud self defense in sweden.


QUOTE (Miss Kitten @ 8.Jan.2011, 06:56 PM) *
Well, I'm not a particularly big fan of hip hop music.


How about Girls Aloud? laugh.gif

Posted by: 7 8.Jan.2011, 09:02 PM

QUOTE (Willy @ 8.Jan.2011, 08:49 PM) *
How about Girls Aloud? laugh.gif


gurls gun wilde wink.gif

Posted by: Swedesmith 8.Jan.2011, 10:55 PM

I have un-wrap fantasies.

Posted by: duogrn 8.Jan.2011, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (anticommie @ 8.Jan.2011, 06:33 PM) *
I am guessing since you think women should be disarmed you are probably a rapist yourself that prays on weak pray. Truly sick thinking you have, next you will be calling for the woman that was rapped to be stoned in the street for all to see.


Your little "McCarthyism" and your logic (or the lack of it) consistently amazes me way beyond the extent that your potentially legit concerns over women's rights & safety can justify :
First, the legality of pepper spray usage in Sweden became your demagogy against certain demographic as a whole;
Now, anyone doesn't agree with you on its legality is labeled as a rapist in lurking on an individual level;
Next, you stretch your doped imagination into a religious extremist scene.

(FWIW, Sweden ranks high on gender equality. )

QUOTE (anticommie @ 8.Jan.2011, 08:04 PM) *
I will stick to the US were people still have the right to self defense.


While even in the US the First Amendment gives you the right of free speech, your lack of basic command of the language, which has been shown throughout all your posts, doesn't make you activist of any sort but handicaps your entitlement. Just as much as the Second Amendment grants you gun rights, it may as well literally backfire if you don't know how to use the weapon.

(Since you quoted "God created man", it sounds more like that he must have had some glitch (or misspelling) involved in the case of you. dry.gif )

Posted by: Jamtjim 8.Jan.2011, 11:26 PM

QUOTE
I will stick to the US were people still have the right to self defense.


And where both the rape and murder rate is higher than any modern European society...

Posted by: Roger O. Thornhill 9.Jan.2011, 12:12 AM

QUOTE (Libellula @ 8.Jan.2011, 08:34 PM) *
In the 50s there were still hat pins !! around for us to carry, but now these are probably classed as an offensive weapon.

In the 60s and 70s hairspray was the thing and a handbag size can is easily carried and I presume this is still an irritant to the eyes, or the shock that it 'could' be pepper spray to the assailant could just give the victim a few seconds.

Keys in the hand can also do some damage at close range - weapon ?
Keep your wits about you and learn some self defence.


I agree, something as small and innocuous as a hollow point round can be an effective defensive device.

Posted by: duogrn 9.Jan.2011, 12:58 AM

QUOTE
"God created man, Sam Colt made them equal."


Speaking of gun ownership and gun control in the US, the following piece of news is just in:
American Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords has been shot at public event in Arizona. A federal judge, John Roll, who had been involved in immigration cases and had received death threats, was among 4 of those killed. A total of 18 were wounded. A 22-year old gunman is in custody.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09giffords.html?hp

Posted by: anticommie 9.Jan.2011, 02:05 AM

QUOTE (Jamtjim @ 8.Jan.2011, 10:26 PM) *
And where both the rape and murder rate is higher than any modern European society...

Check your figures again, rape and violent crime rates are higher in most of europe than the US. Yeap we have murders but for the most part its crime on crime and who cares at that point if gang members are killing each other. Swedens rape figures are way higher than the US.

Posted by: anticommie 9.Jan.2011, 02:07 AM

QUOTE (duogrn @ 8.Jan.2011, 10:05 PM) *
(Since you quoted "God created man", it sounds more like that he must have had some glitch (or misspelling) involved in the case of you. dry.gif )

and your a complete dumbass because you didnt understand the quote. But what else would I expect from a swedish sheep.

Posted by: Jamtjim 9.Jan.2011, 02:14 AM

Sorry commie, you are deluded as well as stupid. US violent crime outstrips that in comparable European countries by a fair margin. Sweden itself has a far broader definition of what it calls "rape" than other countries and this point is always made when statistics are compared. If one adjusts for these cases, the us comes out about 25% higher. Put it this way, if I were a woman, I and concerned about the likelihood of being raped, I would prefer to be in Sweden or anywhere else in Europe than in the US. In the US the rapists have guns and pepper spay too...

Posted by: swozzie 9.Jan.2011, 02:22 AM

[quote name='anticommie' date='9.Jan.2011, 02:05 AM' post='606987']
Yeap we have murders but for the most part its crime on crime and who cares at that point if gang members are killing each other.
//quote]


Crime on crime eh ?

Gabrielle Gifford and her group were criminals were they ?

You really are a pathetic moron and just the kind I imagine shooting up innocents out of your delusional reasoning.

Posted by: Jamtjim 9.Jan.2011, 02:25 AM

QUOTE
You really are a pathetic moron and just the kind I imagine shooting up innocents out of your delusional reasoning.


Especially if they were "un-American"! Jeez, its vomit inducing..

Posted by: Roger O. Thornhill 9.Jan.2011, 02:37 AM

QUOTE (duogrn @ 9.Jan.2011, 01:58 AM) *
Speaking of gun ownership and gun control in the US, the following piece of news is just in:
American Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords has been shot at public event in Arizona. A federal judge, John Roll, who had been involved in immigration cases and had received death threats, was among 4 of those killed. A total of 18 were wounded. A 22-year old gunman is in custody.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09giffords.html?hp


Another left wing loon, but even they have rights even if not excercised rationally.

Posted by: duogrn 9.Jan.2011, 03:25 AM

To add onto Jamtjim's point on high * reported* rape rate in Sweden besides its broader legal definition, it's also a known fact that rape is highly under-reported in the US with only 26%-- 37% victims coming forward, an estimate by the FBI and US Dept. of Justice.

@ swozzie, totally agree.

@Roger O.T.
Even you do have a gun, aren't you jumping the "gun" too fast here?
Don't shoot the messenger, so to speak.
I don't have a definitive opinion on/against whether citizens should have rights to weaponry.
But how did that 22-year old get a gun in Arizona in the first place is definitely questionable.

Posted by: Tennessee Thunder 9.Jan.2011, 05:23 AM

@Dougrn,,It,s perfectly legal for a 22 yr old to buy and own a gun here,as long as he passes the FBI background check.

Posted by: royafork 9.Jan.2011, 11:27 AM

Wow! I did not know pepper spray was illegal here. I actually brought some in my checked luggage from the States -- I suppose I should have declared it as a weapon then? I was too busy at customs declaring my 2 cats. smile.gif

Anyone have links to the actual law for this? I'd like to see some concrete information on the subject. What is Clas Ohlson selling that is different from what I have?

I like the hairspray idea someone suggested. You can get mini-bottles of hairspray at Åhlens.

Posted by: Lostaussie 9.Jan.2011, 12:29 PM

QUOTE (anticommie @ 9.Jan.2011, 02:05 AM) *
Check your figures again, rape and violent crime rates are higher in most of europe than the US. Yeap we have murders but for the most part its crime on crime and who cares at that point if gang members are killing each other. Swedens rape figures are way higher than the US.


Given how widely rape is defined in Sweden it is not surprising to have higher figures, given also the under reporting in the US.

Consensual sex is rape here if the condom breaks wink.gif

Posted by: J.Darling 10.Jan.2011, 08:33 AM

use hornet spray ( like to kill a nest)- it goes farther while pepper spray you need to be up close.

Posted by: J.Darling 10.Jan.2011, 08:42 AM

@ Lostaussie
I've been all over the US and Canada, never felt threatened until I went to Sweden-

Posted by: stuscotland 10.Jan.2011, 10:33 AM

Pepper spray may be illegal in Sweden but this alcohol based spray is not

and is sold at teknikmagasinet

http://www.teknikmagasinet.se/db.pl?tf=product_link.html&link=&artnr=570002&title=Sj%e4lvf%f6rsvarsspray%20f%e4rg&

Posted by: bravedave 12.Jan.2011, 01:21 AM

QUOTE (sarah02 @ 6.Jan.2011, 08:02 PM) *
i did not know that it's illegal!!
well how do women defend themselves here!!!


The femenist movement here in Sweden fighting for equal rights (and some!) means you have to defend yourselves like the men do, with your fists and if you've got keys then put them in your hand and make em count.

Men don't carry pepper spray.

Posted by: john_usa 23.Jul.2012, 03:32 PM

It's illegal but it's better to be safe than sorry I think.

I ordered one from Defenzo (http://defenzo.com) - thankfully i havent had to use it yet...!

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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 12.Sep.2017, 07:07 PM) *
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Posted by: Mxzf 19.Oct.2017, 08:13 AM

Disclaimer: IANAL. I'm not a lawyer.

Good page about how weapons work in Sweden (this reflects the interpretation of the law):

https://polisen.se/Lagar-och-regler/Vapen/Knivar-med-mera/

The actual text:

1 § Knivar, andra stick- och skärvapen och andra föremål som är ägnade att användas som vapen vid brott mot liv eller hälsa får inte innehas på allmän plats

The law is not written to be precise. But basically if you carry something which only purpose is to be used as a weapon, it's illegal. It's illegal to carry a feather if your intended use is to use it as a weapon.

It's both easy and complicated at the same time since the law doesn't allow you to carry anything with the single purpose of being a weapon when you need to defend yourself.

(But as a counterpoint it happily allows me to carry a longsword for the purpose of training sports.)

Posted by: Mxzf 19.Oct.2017, 08:17 AM

As far as I can tell Swedish girls either defend themselves by
* simply not backing down,
* actually having trained some martial art, or
* scream for help and about 20 muscular blonde angry men will appear instantly to help them.

I've seen all three happen.

I have also seen cases where someone really could have used pepper spray, in the case of crazy stalkers: a friend of mine got beaten up by her ex-girlfriend-turned-stalker, following and waiting for a moment without anyone around - probably screaming more would have helped but it's hard to do the right thing, isn't it?

Posted by: Bsmith 19.Oct.2017, 11:13 AM

Carry a cane. No one will bother you about it and it is an excellent weapon.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 19.Oct.2017, 04:25 PM

I assume the old six inch hat pins are OK too...Yes???

What about stiletto heels???

Pointy umbrellas also...

Posted by: Bsmith 19.Oct.2017, 07:33 PM

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 19.Oct.2017, 04:25 PM) *
I assume the old six inch hat pins are OK too...Yes???

What about stiletto heels???

Pointy umbrellas also...


Those fashion accessories may work with Flanny's outfits but they just don't go with mine.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 19.Oct.2017, 08:17 PM

Ouch laugh.gif

Posted by: Bsmith 19.Oct.2017, 10:38 PM

Someone poke you with a pointy umbrella?

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 20.Oct.2017, 02:36 AM

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Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 16.Mar.2018, 11:19 AM

Why do ?????? guys cry when making love???

So would you if you just got pepper sprayed!!! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Bsmith 16.Mar.2018, 11:22 AM

Little homage to Prince?

Posted by: Tenacious185 16.Mar.2018, 02:44 PM

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 16.Mar.2018, 11:22 AM) *
Little homage to Prince?

Bill Cosby, maybe. unsure.gif

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 16.Mar.2018, 02:53 PM

Waiting to hear from #MeToo...

Posted by: Bsmith 16.Mar.2018, 03:53 PM

QUOTE (Tenacious185 @ 16.Mar.2018, 02:44 PM) *
Bill Cosby, maybe. unsure.gif


Titter

Posted by: Tenacious185 21.Mar.2018, 09:46 AM

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Posted by: Mats_L 28.Dec.2018, 01:55 PM

It's not suggested to use pepper spray in Sweden. As earlier commentars have mentioned; there are perfectly fine legal options out there now called "försvarsspray".

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