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Swedish attitude toward Latin American Immigrants.

What is the attitude like?

Elcompadre
post 24.Dec.2009, 01:40 PM
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I have been reading on this forums regarding Swedes discrimination towards Arabs, Africans and other Middle Eastern immigrants. I was just curious if this is the same case for immigrants coming from Latin American and the US, since it seems that they are not so popular in Sweden.
Do you guys have any experience on this?
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just a question
post 24.Dec.2009, 04:59 PM
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Yes, the attitude is the same.
But it's worst if they confuse you with an Arab person. Some latinos have that look. Dark hair, dark eyes.
For them we all are the same.
Being blond or blue eyes, you won't have any problem.
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krigeren
post 24.Dec.2009, 05:03 PM
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Sweden is so far removed from Latin America most don't know the difference between one country and another.

It's not like America where most assume you area "beaner" or "wetback" even if you are from Argentina or Chile.

A great deal of Swedish men find latinas attractive.

What I do like in Sweden is that many latino cultures find one another and group together. As a whole they are the most fun group of immigrants and expats to hang out with...imho.

felize navidad
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Greg in Canada
post 24.Dec.2009, 05:34 PM
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I've always found Latino women to be very attractive. I'd jump over ten blondes for a really hot Latino gal, as long as she's not hotheaded as well, which is a typical stereotype of Latinos.

Also the term "Latino" covers from Mexico down to the southern tip of Chile, so there is quite a range. It's sort of like generalizing about Europeans.
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Småland
post 24.Dec.2009, 10:46 PM
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As a latino american you´ll have it easier here in sweden thats for sure, we are very used to latino americans especially from argentina and paraguay.
yes we can see the diffrence and we know the diffrence between a middle eastern person and a south american person. there is alot of people here who could be donsidered numptys the lot of them. but dont let that scare ya.
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just a question
post 24.Dec.2009, 11:24 PM
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No, they don't know the difference between a Latino-American or South European and an Arab if the Latino or South European is "darker" than normal. It's my experience. I'm Latino myself.
Being from a Latino-American country, you'll find hard to fit into this society.
We're simply too different. You can try as hard as you can but at the end you will find that wasn't worth it.
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Småland
post 24.Dec.2009, 11:36 PM
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vad isåfall är jag om jag nu som svensk inte kan se skillan mellan en sydamerikan och någon från mellan östern. ärligt talat just a queen så får du nog utveckla dig lite. för om jag kan se skillnaden så kan jag banne mig ikke vare svensk överhuvud taget
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Salmon
post 25.Dec.2009, 12:14 AM
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Hej

All the immigrants minorities in all the developped countries try to struggle between them in order to show they are more innocent than the other minority, the latinos are more friendly than the arabs, the arabs are more friendly than the africans and at the end = the latinos are ALSO more friendly than the africans, i think this is stupide, we immigrants should not be stupide, copy from the swedes, copy from them, dont bother yourself thinking which minority is better, . To fit into such a society is not an easy task for any kind minority from the world.
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Taxalien
post 25.Dec.2009, 12:48 AM
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Latinos are not welcome. Not in the sense that you will not feel welcome. Your sentiments are too far far far far far far far far far away from the cultural nexus of the Swede.

You are spontaneous in every sense of the word, they can't even spell or define the meaning of the word. You will feel stupid, isolated and if you don't find some exceptions quickly or cling to your fellow latinos pdq, then you will start to question whether there is something wrong with yourself since you have landed in an alien colony on a planet which you thought were the same as you came from.
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krow
post 25.Dec.2009, 01:34 AM
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poor africans! always get the short end of the stick
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just a question
post 25.Dec.2009, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE (Taxalien @ 25.Dec.2009, 12:48 AM) *
Latinos are not welcome. Not in the sense that you will not feel welcome. Your sentiments are too far far far far far far far far far away from the cultural nexus of the Swede ... (show full quote)

Exactly. You couldn't have defined it better. Perfect. I think we would have more in common with an extraterrestrial race than with a Swede.
You try to approach and "fit". It doesn't matter. Whatever you do, you'll feel that Swedes don't like you. But in fact, they don't like anybody (well, they love USA, that's the exception). They don't even like each other.

Also the ignorance about the Latino-American countries and Hispanic in general makes social interactions in Sweden a real cliché. No, not all the latinos eat tacos and most of us don't do bullfighting.
It's hard and boring to be a cliché.
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G Kin
post 25.Dec.2009, 01:40 PM
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@Salmon.
I do NOT think that africans are anyless friendly. And I am not saying this simply because I am african.

I have realised that there is a kind of "conditioning" that arise within these minority groups and I believe this stem atleast in part from the swedish experience (host culture). When one has been met repeatedly be conservative or perhaps discrimanatory tendencies of swedes it is easy to become suspicious of every swede one comes across. And I think this is DANGERIOUS!

You can imagine that it is easier to experience the negatives which often are passive, than the positives given the solatory nature of the swedish society.

SO I often call my fellow african friends (minorities) to this challenge.

I can also point out that some of the worst, perhaps most primitive forms of discrimination I have experienced have been from fellow minorities. Anyway I often feel sorry for such people and see their atitutes in the same light that I would see an alcoholic homeless swede or one that is depressed, depends entirely on socialbedråg, attempting to discriminate against me.
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entry
post 25.Dec.2009, 03:18 PM
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Location: Västra Götaland
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The hoards of parasites that have flooded Sweden from the UK and USA who burn town centers and raise the crime rate for some reason have not raised the crime rate or filled much space on these forum pages. We can only speculate as to the reason.

It has been my experience that immigrants who come to Sweden and start businesses regardless of their country of origin are successful. Those that come only looking for handouts are appropriately dealt with better than in their country of origin which for some reason is considered racism by radicals on the left here in Sweden and abroad.

I have a neighbor from France who was a union electrician back home who can only find work as a janitor here in Sweden. His inability to find work is not due to racism but due to the lack of available work and his own inability to network. Why on earth would we flood Swedish streets with individuals that cannot possibly find work or appropriate housing? This is only asking for trouble.

Immigrants coming to Sweden can offer something to society when they come to Sweden with business interests. More frequently we find the two faced propaganda(of minority interests) that says immigrants create jobs and increases to GDP while at the same time blame the lack of productivity and the disproportional contribution to crime statistics of immigrants on the lack of work opportunities and housing.
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kaze
post 25.Dec.2009, 05:52 PM
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Most Europeans tend not to have much of a problem with Latin Americans.
I guess a lot of this is familiarity breeds contempt- we have lots of Asians, Turks, Arabs, etc... so people grow to dislike them whereas most countries have very small latin American communities (Sweden would be amongst the biggest I'd imagine what with all those Chileans they got back in the 70s)
But also I'd think what plays a large role is that Latin Americans aren't quite so alien. They're offshoots of the Spanish/Portuguese who are part of European civilization. Not too wildly different from Swedes. Africans, Arabs, Orientals, Asians, etc... meanwhile are pretty alien.
South America, though we think of it as all a pretty bad and dirt poor place, is still western. There'll be a lot of oddness and a lot of feeling of being unwelcome but not moreso than for for a Spaniard or Italian in Sweden. Certainly nothing compared to what people from outside the west get.

Oh.
And of course latins are hot. And they put out.
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Taxalien
post 25.Dec.2009, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (just a question @ 25.Dec.2009, 10:36 AM) *
Exactly. You couldn't have defined it better. Perfect. I think we would have more in common with an extraterrestrial race than with a Swede.You try to approach and "f ... (show full quote)

Sadly I think your analysis is as good as mine. I can't believe for a second to be running around being suspicious of people you share say a communal dwelling with when they open their mouth to say hello, or to insist on using a diary to plan every minute they have, just because they have so little to do in their spare time, that every minute has to be accounted for...all this must inevitably lead to a lack of self respect and lack of love or likeness for each other.

You can be my friend any day and you can knock my door any time if you like. On the west coast.

QUOTE (entry @ 25.Dec.2009, 03:18 PM) *
It has been my experience that immigrants who come to Sweden and start businesses regardless of their country of origin are successful. Those that come only looking for handou ... (show full quote)

One just has to look at the history of France to get an impression of what Swedens future will look like. France of all countries in this world has had more socialism than any country in this world, including communist experiments. And look at it. As a nation, it is the most antagonistic state of all. Every one against everyone. Such is the fate of any nation that subscribes to the socialist ideals. One can agree on nothing, compromise on nothing as one cannot trust anyone even if they live next to you. And to think that this observation was coined in the 1840s by Bastiat is quite remarkable...and 169 years later the Frenchman has learnt nothing, in fact most French won't even know who Bastiat is. Try your neighbour and report back. I bet a pint of beer with you that he has no idea. Since he has now come to a country that epitomise socialism more than any other state in the world today, ask him to read some Bastiat, in French and see how he responds. It might be quite an interesting experiment...and give some perspective on why he can't find work.

Sadly the State here has a policy from 1968 that states that all immigrants should have the same access to state social benefits and protection as its natives. It didn't have this before 1968. That is why any immigrant pre-1968 doesn't understand immigration politics because they cannot recognise or reconcile the debate today with the experiences they themselves made as immigrants here. This Lex Pro Immigrantia Sophismia or whatever you could call it treats one category of immigrants different from everyone else. Asylum seekers and people who are given right of abode here due to protection issues are classed as if they were totally native and as if they had lived in Sweden here all their life. That's why the draw a pension directly from day one, all the years in their home country are counted as if they had lived in Sweden itself.

This is why your French neighbour cannot find work. The taxation system is cannibalising capital formation in this country. Hence, the few jobs that can live here, with the little capital formation there is left goes only to those who are in the network or are sexy enough to sleep with.
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