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Ban on Dual Nationality

SD says Capital NO to dual citizenship

Apache001
post 27.Aug.2018, 09:03 PM
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Gamla please this is not a joking matter for many of us, it’s a matter of life and blood.
Jimmie Akesson should keep this kind of ideologies that are capable of disintegrating the country to himself.
There are no evidences to suggest that people with dual citizenship are national threat, so I am wondering on what ground is he trying to campaign for this law.
Anyway Sweden would have to pull out from the EU to make this happen, as we are prepared to take this to the European court.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Aug.2018, 09:10 PM
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Joined: 21.Dec.2006

I am not making a joke about my replies to this thread...You have to realize what you say and what you believe may be different to what others say and believe...

As always there are sides to everything and being overly emotional will never leave one with a mind that can understand the other side and deal with it maturely...

Others have as much right to their opinions...evil to some is not evil to others...

Relax cool.gif
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Martian
post 27.Aug.2018, 09:11 PM
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Joined: 24.Jun.2015

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:20 PM) *
I think that perhaps I didn't make my point clearly. What I was trying to say it that perhaps the SD should focus on other more important issues and not push for a ban on ... (show full quote)


I didn't see the point earlier. Sorry sir biggrin.gif
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Svea.alan
post 27.Aug.2018, 09:13 PM
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Joined: 15.Jun.2018

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:19 PM) *
Look the sky is falling!!!. Paranoia???


Didn’t a Russian agent working with SD get caught right in riksdag?

SD have largest election posters, tripled the size of all other political parties, rented in most prestige locations across the country. Where do they get all the funding?

The fact is you all know the truth but either you share this fungus outdated ideology or are blindsided by ignorance.
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ChocOwl
post 27.Aug.2018, 09:22 PM
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Joined: 17.Jan.2011

Note that SD also wants to stop the issuing of PUT, so any non-citizens would only have a time-limted UT. SD also want to have more control over international travel!
This is all in SD's "migrationspolitiska inriktningsprogram" which is pretty shocking stuff.
"En för Sverigedemokraterna grundläggande syn på uppehållstillstånd är att dessa alltid bör vara tidsbegränsade och tydligt kopplade till den grund på vilken de beviljats. Vi motsätter oss således idén med permanenta uppehållstillstånd, vilka ger en omotiverad permanent rätt att vistas i landet. I stället vill vi se ett system där beviljade uppehållstillstånd regelbundet ses över för eventuell förnyelse. En sådan förutsätter att bakgrunden till uppehållstillstånden kvarstår.
Förändras situationen – vare sig det handlar om avslutat arbete, brutet förhållande eller förbättrade villkor i hemlandet – ska också uppehållstillstånden som regel återkallas. Den som funnit annan anledning att stanna bör ha ansökt om förnyat uppehållstillstånd, baserat på den nya grunden."
"Det faktum att vi tror på nationalstaten betyder dock inte att vi motsätter att människor rör sig över statsgränser, vare sig det handlar om kortare semestrar, längre projektresor och utbyten eller en permanent flytt till ett nytt hemland. Däremot anser vi att det bör finnas tydliga och rimliga regler för när och hur det sker, samt under vilka förutsättningar."
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Martian
post 27.Aug.2018, 10:14 PM
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Joined: 24.Jun.2015

QUOTE (Apache001 @ 27.Aug.2018, 10:03 PM) *
Gamla please this is not a joking matter for many of us, it’s a matter of life and blood. Jimmie Akesson should keep this kind of ideologies that are capable of disintegrati ... (show full quote)


Better ignore that clown. He is a miserable old man with the brain of a 6 year old, who is probably stuck in bed, suffering of some sort of terminal illness or in some sort of vegetable state. What does he have to lose anyway? That's why he never takes anything serious in life and keeps on commenting on the things he doesn't know jack about.
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Martian
post 27.Aug.2018, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (ChocOwl @ 27.Aug.2018, 10:22 PM) *
Note that SD also wants to stop the issuing of PUT, so any non-citizens would only have a time-limted UT. SD also want to have more control over international travel!This ... (show full quote)


They will probably withdraw the PUT of those who choose to renounce their swedish citizenship, and issue a TUT to them under some strict conditions. Long term residents with PUT will also be affected if they ever get to power.

I know some people on this forum who have decided not to take citizenship, even though they have lived for several decades already. Sorry, but you will be affected too.

And if you think you will not be affected by this because you are a blue-eyed native swedish, you are making a mistake. What freedom will you have when Sweden leaves the EU and traveling is limited? Kiss your vacations to civilized countries goodbye. Thailand might still be welcoming though.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Aug.2018, 10:33 PM
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Galloping paranoia is rampant now...

The last bastion of those who have no words worthy to explain their beliefs is to insult those that challenge them to prove what they are saying...

And NO It does not work, it only increases the paranoia and inability to be understood...
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Svea.alan
post 27.Aug.2018, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 27.Aug.2018, 11:33 PM) *
Galloping paranoia is rampant now...The last bastion of those who have no words worthy to explain their beliefs is to insult those that challenge them to prove what they are s ... (show full quote)


You are merely a racist thug, thus you are proving nothing and challenging no one. Do you think that people will just sit idly and do nothing when nazis take over and take people’s rights away. Look at what happens in Syria, do you want to have that happen here in Sweden. Get a life
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Aug.2018, 11:25 PM
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When the elections come you can vote as you please, others will do the same, and in case you do not know when elections occur there are some that are pleased with the results and some that are not...yes!!! it's that simple...

Anything said here is merely conjecture, you needn't be insulting to prove what you think is right for Sweden or any other country...

Just vote...
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Billy_UK
post 27.Aug.2018, 11:31 PM
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Joined: 5.Aug.2013

Why all the worry? The only way this ever happens is if they got over 50% in the election and that will never happen.
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Bsmith
post 27.Aug.2018, 11:49 PM
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Joined: 25.Jun.2009

QUOTE (Svea.alan @ 27.Aug.2018, 07:27 PM) *
What other issues? . Fascist everywhere, always had one issue and that is to oppress any minority group, which are too small or weak to defend itself.


The biggest issue that I constantly hear about from the Swedish citizens is the out of control immigration policies that the (out of touch with the public) government has initiated. Too many people, too little oversight, etc.

Of course, you over the top, liberal, socialist, one world order lunatics will wring your little hands and scream, "fascist, nazi, xenophobe" and all that other crap but that is the issue that I think is forefront in the minds of many Swedes.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 28.Aug.2018, 01:10 AM
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Look at what was said about Trump...

And what happened???

Maybe Sweden has a "silent majority" that finally has a voice speaking to what they want???

Wait and see...
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Martian
post 28.Aug.2018, 03:32 AM
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Joined: 24.Jun.2015

QUOTE (Billy_UK @ 28.Aug.2018, 12:31 AM) *
Why all the worry? The only way this ever happens is if they got over 50% in the election and that will never happen.


Don't underestimate their campaign power. I give it to them on that. The only party I constantly get pamphlets, journals and customised posts from is them! They constantly send those to people's registered addresses. Ain't they making good use of PUL? There are many ignorant and gullible swedes out there. Their campaign is running on some steroids. I wonder where they get their funding from?
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Gjeebes
post 28.Aug.2018, 04:00 AM
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Joined: 20.Feb.2012

Chocowl's bit translated below.

""A basic view of residence permits for the Swedish Democrats is that they should always be time-limited and clearly linked to the grounds on which they were granted. We therefore oppose the idea of ​​permanent residence, which gives an unjustified permanent right to stay in the country. Instead, we want to see a system where residence permits are regularly reviewed for any renewal. This requires that the background to the residence permit remains.
If the situation changes - whether it is a terminated job, a broken relationship or an improved condition in the home country - the residence permit will usually be withdrawn. The person who found another reason to stay should have applied for a renewed residence permit based on the new foundation. "
"However, the fact that we believe in the national state does not mean that we oppose people moving over state borders, whether it's shorter holidays, longer project trips and exchanges or a permanent move to a new homeland. However, we think there should be clear and reasonable rules for when and how it happens, and under what conditions. ""

Why is this shocking? The nanny-state's economics are out of balance, and these moves will restore a proper functioning migration policy. What is "shocking" is that the current Gubberment allowed Sweden to become a bigger mess than it always has been ala "open borders" idiocy.

The only thing shocking about the above, is that SD think they will be a able to handle all the needless paperwork and extra bureaucracy! And just think about all those confused Gubberment employees at MV, trying to figure out how it all works!

And if one doesn't like it, maybe they can tone down their retarded PC bullshit which is the whole reason SD has become so popular to begin with.

SD is filling a gap that the current coalition created. And people seem to feel it is time for change. Think about it. Can Meatballia really continue on as it currently is? Nothing is working there, and the typical Meatballian approach to solving problems is a predictable disaster.
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