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Ban on Dual Nationality

SD says Capital NO to dual citizenship

Svea.alan
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE (john.boy @ 27.Aug.2018, 07:17 PM) *
And in times of conflict which nation does your loyalties sit with, especially when either can call you up for military duty?Personally I have no issue with SD, or any country ... (show full quote)


If a citizen sided with an enemy at times of war then laws of the country can be enforced just like in any other criminal proceedings.

SD is a wolf in sheeps clothing, its whole entire agenda is based on hatred of immigrants and intolerance towards people of different backgrounds. It is a pure fascist party that was established by members of criminal gangs and new nazi groups. No decent Swede should fool him/her self into thinking of SD otherwise. It’s Russia’s new strategy to weaken western countries by creating disorder and divisions within countries and societies. It was socialism during the Soviet Union days and now they are preying on nationalism sentiments to dismantle an opposing EU power, which they deem as a threat. The Russian do it best when it comes to conspiracy. So actually those fascist aka nationalists aka right wing patriots are actually nothing but bunch of traitors serving a foreign power against their own country. The great Russian puppet Donald Trump, a tv clown turned a president, is a best example of this great Russian conspiracy.

Those fascist traitors have no real viable solution for any issue, except stirring shit and bring about disorders to the society. No one will be spared if they get it their way, not only people of foreign backgrounds but if you happen to be a woman, or even a European from another country in Europe you are also a target. We all saw how fascist groups in the UK attacked other Europeans after britexit and demanded mass deportation.

Therefore, if Sweden has some issues, they can try to press ordinary political groups to resolve it without the need to support fascist groups such as SD.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:19 PM
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Look the sky is falling!!!

Paranoia???
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Bsmith
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (Martian @ 27.Aug.2018, 07:22 PM) *
Name them? The fact that it is not important to you doesn't mean it is the same for others. Even if it doesn't affect you because you are already old enough to be my g ... (show full quote)



I think that perhaps I didn't make my point clearly. What I was trying to say it that perhaps the SD should focus on other more important issues and not push for a ban on dual citizenship (an issue which I have not heard a hue and cry from the public about)...grandson.
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Saywhatwhat
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 27.Aug.2018, 07:54 PM) *
Security clearances although unusual could be a problem, jobs requiring citizenship and if you have a problem with a country which is not yours, I don't think either of yo ... (show full quote)



Yea, and that doesn't happen. One doesn't show both passports when traveling. And for jobs requiring citizenship... Well I guess that could be a problem if one is in a 3rd country they are not a citizen of. A citizen is treated as a citizen, other than peoples personal prejudices, whether dual or not... Unless the country doesn't allow it.

It's just some nationalist grandstanding which is probably going to backfire and alienate potential voters from them

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 27.Aug.2018, 08:13 PM) *
Seems to me that there are other issues that are much more important to the public than this one.


Totally agree. I know what you mean... That the SD has made an issue out of a non issue.

I don't think the other person who was insulting understood what you meant.





QUOTE (Svea.alan @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:07 PM) *
If a citizen sided with an enemy at times of war then laws of the country can be enforced just like in any other criminal proceedings.SD is a wolf in sheeps clothing, its whol ... (show full quote)



No need to slander tv clowns. Bozo the clown was amazing!
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Svea.alan
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:20 PM) *
I think that perhaps I didn't make my point clearly. What I was trying to say it that perhaps the SD should focus on other more important issues and not push for a ban on ... (show full quote)


What other issues?

Fascist everywhere, always had one issue and that is to oppress any minority group, which are too small or weak to defend itself.
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Saywhatwhat
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:19 PM) *
Look the sky is falling!!!. Paranoia???



Paranoia? Sweden reinstated the military draft because of fear over Russia. They even sent out updated manuals to the public about what to do in case of an attack.

Their paranoia only reflects that of their country.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:31 PM
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"How do they intend to pass this into law when there are many children in Sweden born with dual citizenship. "

Maybe that is the root cause...Too many of them!!!
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Svea.alan
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:34 PM
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In fact one of SD proposed laws a few years back, was giving a different passport to even third generation Swedish born citizens just because his/her grandfather was an immigrant and would be stripped of this second class citizenship if committed any crime then deported. So dual citizenship is just the beginning of a long disguised whole.
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Saywhatwhat
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (Svea.alan @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:27 PM) *
What other issues? . Fascist everywhere, always had one issue and that is to oppress any minority group, which are too small or weak to defend itself.



So SD is going after Swedish citizens? Sure they are maybe dual citizen immigrants but they are still voters... Same with swedish born citizens who now live and hold citizenship elsewhere funny group for a nationalist party to oppress... Their own citizens
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Svea.alan
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:31 PM) *
"How do they intend to pass this into law when there are many children in Sweden born with dual citizenship. ". Maybe that is the root cause...Too many of them!!!


Those children will pay your pensions when you are too old to do anything and become not so useful anymore. They will give you the opportunity to receive all the medical care you need when you can’t afford it on your own.
They will pay to enable social services pay for a nanny to come to your house help you with your errands, do your laundry, cook you a decent meal, give you a shower, to allow you live with dignity when all your loved ones abandon you.
They will make Sweden prosper long after you are gone.
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Saywhatwhat
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:31 PM) *
"How do they intend to pass this into law when there are many children in Sweden born with dual citizenship. ". Maybe that is the root cause...Too many of them!!!



Root cause? This is not a solution to anything... But you can try again to enlighten.

All the swedish born dual citizens would lose their other countries citizenship if they are living in Sweden. If they are living abroad they will lose swedish.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:47 PM
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Maybe there are those that do not want that...
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:50 PM
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"Their own citizens"

Citizenship like a lot of things..."Is in the eye of the beholder"
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Svea.alan
post 27.Aug.2018, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 27.Aug.2018, 09:47 PM) *
Maybe there are those that do not want that...


Those whom you belong to are a very small disgruntled group of intolerants that makes huge propaganda machine with the help of foreign powers such as Russia. Small people big talks. Otherwise, why wouldn’t they be in power in a democratic country.
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Apache001
post 27.Aug.2018, 09:03 PM
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Gamla please this is not a joking matter for many of us, it’s a matter of life and blood.
Jimmie Akesson should keep this kind of ideologies that are capable of disintegrating the country to himself.
There are no evidences to suggest that people with dual citizenship are national threat, so I am wondering on what ground is he trying to campaign for this law.
Anyway Sweden would have to pull out from the EU to make this happen, as we are prepared to take this to the European court.
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