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what steps toward citizenship for british cit

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astrokatt
post 4.Oct.2018, 12:14 PM
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Hej! This is a navigating the bureaucracy thread but i have found it hard to stick together all the migration information therefore I need the help of those here who who are in-the-know.

Im a single traveller in 30s looking to continue my life including my friendships, career, travels, own music and other hobbies in sweden after my good expierences previously. My understanding of the steps is still vague after reading for hours!

So to start off: As I understand with the eu right of residence, my first task. After arriving and as a visitor should then be getting my personnummer by making an application at skativerket. I thinkbi need the personnummer before i can rent, get bank accounts and gain employment/ pay tax. Is this accurate so far?

Secondly- I am confused to what prerequisites documents and answers required to get my personummer are. Can someone tell me what this is for my situation? I have my passport. I hear something about health cover? Is it the EHIC card (that i apply for in the uk) i would need in advance? I want to avoid this health insurance problem everyone seems to be having. Do they require savings for personnummber (have about 200,000 sek equivilent available at present).

Thirdly what is the eligibility and responsibilities requirements for enrollment in SFI classes? (I have only learnt a little svenska from 2 apps and small conversation so far).

So i stay in sweden long enough.
4. At what point am i covered by state healthcare.
5. What is the id card for and howcsoon do i need or become eligible for it?

6.And also at what point and with what requirements can i become a citizen? Is it just having a personnummer for 5 years and your info?

Am i missing anything? Do i ever need to go to migrationsverket?

Tack sä mycket!
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Bsmith
post 4.Oct.2018, 12:43 PM
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I get the feeling from your post that you are a bit of a free spirit. If you find these threads to be frustrating, I think you will find the Swedish bureaucracy to be 10 times more so.

My advice (for what its worth) is to visit Sweden and enjoy yourself but don't try to move there.
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Solith
post 4.Oct.2018, 04:22 PM
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The first thing you'll learn is that all information is online, even the steps to citizenship. Unfortunately, it's not always in English, so google translate is your (slightly inaccurate) friend.

Step 1. Get a job in Sweden, build up your savings to support yourself for a year while studying / finding a job, or have a Swedish partner who is willing to state they will support you. All three are possible from outside Sweden, but with varying rates of success and openness to moral criticism.
Step 2. Arrive, register at Migrationsverket and Skatteverket. Follow their procedures depending on which method you chose for Step 1.
Step 3. Learn to survive in Sweden. You may have healthcare from day 1 if you're employed or studying, otherwise you'll have to show you can afford private insurance. Apply for SFI as quickly as possible, and get past the early classes quickly to boost your skills and skip past all the lifelong learners.
Step 4. Survive for 5 years (3 if living with a Swede) without committing a crime.
Step 6. Apply for citizenship.
Step 7. Wait anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 years for Migrationsverket's response.
Step 8. ...Profit?
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astrokatt
post 4.Oct.2018, 07:14 PM
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Bsmith yes good advice seemingly. for visiting i can see why its easier not to needlessly register. and its nice to be a tourist as i have worked just to travel before. I am really trying to focus on making a home and career. While it might be frustrating, challenges that take time to deal with methodocally are a common feature of life. So i am working through constitute parts of this process as any problem would require.

Solith yes good overview. Tack.
My situation would most likely be a vistor as I continue to seek work and network in my industry (computer science and development field).

Is it nessersary (or just much easie to suceed in my applications) to have employment (that need to meet some kind of conditions) before i even bothe to apply for my personnummber and at migration?

So after arrival (and i dont need a visa), what registration or application type would i bemaking at the migration office? (Also What rights in s weden does this give me well aside from presumedly starting that 3/5 year timer that would enable a citizen app.)
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SmokerT69
post 4.Oct.2018, 11:18 PM
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Location: Gävle
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You can not go the route of self supporting to move here. Apparently the insurance they want you to get, you can not actually get until you retire in the UK. You have to get a job or study to move here. I went the route of moving to a family member who is Swedish and I'm still waiting nearly 2 years later for a personummer/residence permit.
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astrokatt
post 7.Oct.2018, 06:00 AM
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The self support part is stated on the MV website so it is unfortunate to hear that - I wonder if other nationals in EU don't have this problem in Sweden.

Is there anywhere online where there are detailed instructions about this part from MV?

I would be happy to stay in Sweden with friends for a while as it states my eu rights are, but obviously I feel it would only be right to contribute through taxes and be entitled to services that need your identification as quickly as possible.

Tack för hjälpen! I know these are all boring questions.

I would love to give the language part of the forum which I did not notice before smile.gif

One of my questions is: How often do you use your ID card and for what do you commonly need it for?
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SmokerT69
post 7.Oct.2018, 09:41 AM
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Other EU nationals have the same problems. My friends from SFI, one Italian and one Spanish had the same problem. They were told they needed insurance and so on, the Italian girl spent hundreds of euros only to be told they wouldn't except the insurance. She's now moving to the UK with her sambo, since her residence permit got denied when she went back to Italy to work this summer. She had been waiting well over a year. Also, the people at skatteverket are very nasty lol. I went down there this week to try and apply for a personummer again since I have a job now, part time, but still 2-4 weeks a month. She again told me I could try and go the route of self supporting, when I explained to her we can't get this insurance in the UK, she smiled and said she knows... "I'm just telling you all your options"...

To be fair, they seem to be really relaxed on entering Sweden though. There don't seem to be any checks or customs. My mum even visited this year on a her Canadian passport that was expiring before her trip was over.

As for an ID card, it's the same as a passport. You use it to buy alcohol or identity yourself at the bank etc. I've never had an issue and have used my military ID pretty much everywhere. Few times they have asked for my passport instead. You can also use the ID card to travel within the EU.
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MisterDuck
post 1.Dec.2018, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (Solith @ 4.Oct.2018, 04:22 PM) *
The first thing you'll learn is that all information is online, even the steps to citizenship. Unfortunately, it's not always in English, so google translate is your ( ... (show full quote)


I think step 2 is wrong, isn't it? The OP seems to be from UK, so there would be no requirement to register with MV as UK is an EU country (until end 2020 at least - and possibly longer, the way Brexit is headed down the drain currently)? The MV website even tells you there's no need to contact them if you're moving from an EU country.
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SmokerT69
post 1.Dec.2018, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (MisterDuck @ 1.Dec.2018, 02:11 PM) *
I think step 2 is wrong, isn't it? The OP seems to be from UK, so there would be no requirement to register with MV as UK is an EU country (until end 2020 at least - and p ... (show full quote)


Yea, in theory that's true. But skatteverket will not give you a Personnumer without a residence permit from migrationsverket. Unless he has a full time job and applies that way.
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Martian
post 2.Dec.2018, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (SmokerT69 @ 1.Dec.2018, 07:08 PM) *
Yea, in theory that's true. But skatteverket will not give you a Personnumer without a residence permit from migrationsverket. Unless he has a full time job and applies that way.


I believe they will also issue personnummer to any EU citizen who is enrolled in a study programme that is longer than one year.

To the OP, go the school route if you can't find a job and your life becomes easier. Tuition fee is waived for EU citizens.
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