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Job discrimination based on heritage?

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delta76
post 26.Jul.2017, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 26.Jul.2017, 09:58 AM) *
I think Center-left has changed their strategy. There is a sharp increase in rejections, and deportations.

The strategy has turned out to be a mess. I'd be surprised if they haven't changed.
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Svedallas
post 26.Jul.2017, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (delta76 @ 26.Jul.2017, 12:08 PM) *
The strategy has turned out to be a mess. I'd be surprised if they haven't changed.


There is a lot of talk of changes. But it is a waiting game.
For now they will continue with deportations.

It is overdue that they change the minimum salary requirement.

It will reduce the number of visa applications pending, and only serious applicants who are getting serious jobs and not low jobs be part of the process.
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Gjeebes
post 27.Jul.2017, 05:11 AM
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What? Has Sweden foregone its infatuation with illiterate goat herders?

"It will reduce the number of visa applications pending, and only serious applicants who are getting serious jobs and not low jobs be part of the process."

Wow! And just think, 2 years ago, only in Sweden, such words would have constituted a "hate-crime" investigation!

Bravo! Sweden slowly starts to realise common sense isn't just code for racism after-all!
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TLSucks
post 27.Jul.2017, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 26.Jul.2017, 09:58 AM) *
Look at what America has done with H1B! Minimum salary is $130,000 for a work permit. Many Swedes who lived there now are returning back to Sweden...


No, that bill has not passed yet; it is still $60k.
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Svedallas
post 27.Jul.2017, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 27.Jul.2017, 06:11 AM) *
What? Has Sweden foregone its infatuation with illiterate goat herders?"It will reduce the number of visa applications pending, and only serious applicants who are getti ... (show full quote)


It has been an ongoing problem...
How on earth does a pizza baker get a work permit? That is now a thing of a past.

Over 400 rejections in the past few months. They finally see importance of issuing visas to those who have real skill-set, and make workforce competitive.
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Svedallas
post 27.Jul.2017, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE (TLSucks @ 27.Jul.2017, 09:43 AM) *
No, that bill has not passed yet; it is still $60k.


Even though it hasn't employers are now less inclined to help those with sponsorship, in case it does pass. They don't want to have to pay that salary, especially for those outside of big cities, and for seasonal workers...
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Svedallas
post 27.Jul.2017, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (wallace1837 @ 27.Jul.2017, 10:08 AM) *


Priority is now being given to those who are already permanent residents (low skilled refugees) or citizens.
Many jobs do/did not require a foreign worker + permit

The ones who've found it difficult to enter the job market: new university graduates, young teenagers looking for trainee exp, high school graduate trying get an entry job.

Guess this was the only solution. Also, many Swedes are forced to move to other neighboring countries just to find jobs. So this seems fair.

wallace1837 - get over it.
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Svedallas
post 27.Jul.2017, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE (wallace1837 @ 27.Jul.2017, 10:32 AM) *
Are you really saying tht migrationsverket are giving priority to Swedish citizen! What service are they proving to them... Ah, getting rid of foreigners!Look at all t ... (show full quote)


I am not saying that at all. I am saying that priority is probably been given to those who do not need a permit at all.

This also includes, EU citizens, those who got temporary refugee status, as well as expats, who are married/sambo with a Swede and moved to Sweden who struggle to find work, but have residency.

Poor education or not, those who are permanent residents that do study here, should get a right. This is why it is the law to post a job on arbetsformedlingen first. But that did not work.

But, what you are saying is all IT and low skilled jobs should automatically go to foreigners??
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Bsmith
post 27.Jul.2017, 11:26 AM
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Never been a believer in "affirmative action" type employment policies. The employer should have the right to employ the most qualified candidate and if that isn't you, then you have the obligation to improve your skills to make yourself more likely to be hired.
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Svedallas
post 27.Jul.2017, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 27.Jul.2017, 12:26 PM) *
Never been a believer in "affirmative action" type employment policies. The employer should have the right to employ the most qualified candidate and if that isn ... (show full quote)


I agree.
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Bsmith
post 27.Jul.2017, 01:08 PM
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Seriously, when I came to Sweden it was readily apparent that I did not posses the language skills to work in my chosen profession so I took any job I could find and felt fortunate to be employed. I enrolled in SFI and, if we had stayed, it would have been my goal to become fluent. As an immigrant, I always felt that it was my obligation to meet Sweden's needs and not vice versa.
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delta76
post 27.Jul.2017, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 27.Jul.2017, 01:08 PM) *
Seriously, when I came to Sweden it was readily apparent that I did not posses the language skills to work in my chosen profession so I took any job I could find and felt fort ... (show full quote)

that's the spirit
We can't come to another country and expect to be "at home". We were not born here, were not raised here, did not understand the culture and could not speak the language fluently. If anything, we have to put more effort, sometimes, double, than the natives.
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Bsmith
post 27.Jul.2017, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (delta76 @ 27.Jul.2017, 02:05 PM) *
that's the spiritWe can't come to another country and expect to be "at home". We were not born here, were not raised here, did not understand the culture and ... (show full quote)


Yeah, I've never understood those that feel as if Sweden owes them a comfortable living.
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gsurya
post 28.Jul.2017, 07:05 AM
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QUOTE (delta76 @ 27.Jul.2017, 02:05 PM) *
that's the spiritWe can't come to another country and expect to be "at home". We were not born here, were not raised here, did not understand the culture and ... (show full quote)


I am a software industry pro who first went to the US on an H1B, then moved to Denmark for a few years, then Singapore & then to Sweden for a couple before returning to India a few years ago.

To be able to live 'comfortably' & integrate into the Danish & Swedish society, it is indeed necessary to learn the local language. I did try to learn Danish, but just wasnt up to it - learning a completely new language at 35 was much more difficult than I imagined it would be.

I might be back in Sweden later this year for another stint, maybe this time I will try SFI.

As for racism & discrimination, of the countries I lived/worked in other than India, I faced it most in Denmark/Norway/Germany/Sweden/Hong Kong, lesser in USA/UK/Australia & least in Singapore. But we have racism & discrimination of various types even in India so I dont judge other countries too much.

The world needs to get better & more inclusive & the richer/western countries have to take the lead. I thought this was happening over the years, but social media has empowered the vicious racist hatemongers more than those who want to spread inclusion & peace - lets hope its a phase & we get better in future.
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Svedallas
post 28.Jul.2017, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (gsurya @ 28.Jul.2017, 08:05 AM) *
I am a software industry pro who first went to the US on an H1B, then moved to Denmark for a few years, then Singapore & then to Sweden for a couple before returning to In ... (show full quote)


+1

"To be able to live 'comfortably' & integrate into the Danish & Swedish society, it is indeed necessary to learn the local language."

Exactly, it is vital!!
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