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Posted by: Leylu 4.Dec.2011, 01:29 PM

So now I understand I'm eligible for free education in Luleå as an EU citizen, I would like to study Swedish at the local university. Does anyone think it would be possible for me to get some kind of job to support me while I'm studying so I can keep an apartment etc?

Posted by: johnjohn 4.Dec.2011, 01:48 PM

It is possible but rather unlikely without a good working knowledge of Swedish or a great skill set. You seem to be implying you will need to provide for yourself and go to school full time. Just being from the EU does not give you an unconditional right to live in Sweden. You must show you have money to support yourself. Students are required to have 73000kr per year for expenses. Will you be applying for right of residency based upon being a student, family ties or person of independent means? In any case good luck.

Posted by: Puffin 4.Dec.2011, 03:02 PM

I think that what you are asking for is not easy to find in reality

You want to study full time on an intensive Swedish course AND find a job that will pay your bills?

Most of the intensive Swedish courses require you to be in Uni from 8-4 or 9-5 + homework - so your availability will be limited

BUT to get arounf 7,000kr after tax will require you to earn 10,000 kr per month - this is quite a tall order for a part time job

Posted by: kaze 5.Dec.2011, 12:51 AM

Yeah, sorry but its not going to happen. I have perfect English and decent Swedish and went to a larger city than Lulea, hoping to find a job to support me, but there was absolutely nothing at all.
About the only foreign students who manage to find jobs are those who have relatives owning an Indian take away or somesuch and give them a little cash in hand 60 crowns an hour job.

And please don't cheat and come without the money. You can survive on a lot less than the recommended 7000 a month but...any less than 5000 and youre really really suffering.

Posted by: redblue 5.Dec.2011, 04:26 AM

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BUT to get arounf 7,000kr after tax will require you to earn 10,000 kr per month - this is quite a tall order for a part time job

Actually, around 7,000 kr after tax will require you to earn only 8,100 kr per month. (http://www.ekonomifakta.se/Fakta/Skatter/Rakna-pa-dina-skatter/Rakna-ut-din-skatt/)

If you work some evenings and during weekends, e.g. in McDonalds or delivering newspapers, you can easily survive financially. The problem is finding work and competition is high in university towns such as Luleå. Also consider the harsh climate with very cold and dark winters.

Posted by: Puffin 5.Dec.2011, 02:02 PM

QUOTE (redblue @ 5.Dec.2011, 04:26 AM) *
Actually, around 7,000 kr after tax will require you to earn only 8,100 kr per month. (http://www.ekonomifakta.se/Fakta/Skatter/Rakna-pa-dina-skatter/Rakna-ut-din-skatt/)

According to the link you posted 8100 only gets you 6900 prt month in Luleå! Perhaps you didn't adjust for the fact that all kommuns have different income tax rates

But OK in my top-of- the head caluculation I hadn't adjusted for working tax benefits (jobbskattavdrag) so the sum is around 8,600/8,700 - but on unskilled wages of 75-90kr/hour it would still mean working 25-30 hours per week

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If you work some evenings and during weekends, e.g. in McDonalds or delivering newspapers, you can easily survive financially. The problem is finding work and competition is high in university towns such as Luleå. Also consider the harsh climate with very cold and dark winters.

The McDonalds types of jobs are almost unobtaianable in an area such as Luleå
- they want Swedish speakers
- Arbetsförmedling (job centre) subsidize the salaries of various groups (long term unemployed/youth unemployed/disabled unemployed/ immigrants unemployed) in areas of high unemployment such as Luleå så non-Swedish speakers with limited availability are not in hude demand from employers

Posted by: lucky1989 2.Apr.2014, 10:14 AM

hi my dear friends
i plan to do digital visualization diploma in jonkoping university.
can i find any part time job in Sweden??,how much earn doing some part time job in
sweden?? plz guy help me?

Posted by: littleviking 2.Apr.2014, 10:37 AM

QUOTE (lucky1989 @ 2.Apr.2014, 10:14 AM) *
hi my dear friends
i plan to do digital visualization diploma in jonkoping university.
can i find any part time job in Sweden??,how much earn doing some part time job in
sweden?? plz guy help me?

first and foremost why do you post this question in someone else topic which is for a completely different city and area
do you speak swedish?
otherwise Jkpg is a small city of 120.000 ppl including smaller cities around it with around 13,000 students or more yearly and an unemployment rate of about 6% beside those students and not counting refugee and asylum seekers.
i doubt you have any chances, especially if you dont speak swedish

Posted by: lucky1989 2.Apr.2014, 10:51 AM

QUOTE (littleviking @ 2.Apr.2014, 09:37 AM) *
first and foremost why do you post this question in someone else topic which is for a completely different city and area
do you speak swedish?
otherwise Jkpg is a small city of 120.000 ppl including smaller cities around it with around 13,000 students or more yearly and an unemployment rate of about 6% beside those students and not counting refugee and asylum seekers.
i doubt you have any chances, especially if you dont speak swedish

absoulty i cant speak swedish ,but have proper enghlish skills, i want to do master degree in (IT) with eran some mony for cover my living cost, thats why i try to do part time job also, do u know other universites better to do master degree and also doing part time job during the study?

Posted by: Ivor stephé 2.Apr.2014, 10:57 AM

England

Posted by: lucky1989 2.Apr.2014, 11:02 AM

QUOTE (Ivor steph? @ 2.Apr.2014, 09:57 AM) *
England

Thanks For Your Reply.But i looking for in Sweden

Posted by: Ivor stephé 2.Apr.2014, 11:08 AM

QUOTE (lucky1989 @ 2.Apr.2014, 11:02 AM) *
Thanks For Your Reply.But i looking for in Sweden



Sweden is a Swedish speaking country, the exception being in professional employment (Usually within Stockholm).
But part time and menial jobs require Swedish.

You can't work in a mc donalds serving customers if you don't speak the local language, and that goes for many jobs. Unless you work in a professional capacity, but since you are still in school and only looking for part time work then this doesn't apply to you (especially in Jonkoping). Jobs such as toilet cleaning etc, are carried out by desperate individuals who already have the language. And usually there is a line of people ready to step in for a toilet cleaning style job if it becomes available.

Unemployment is high in Sweden, but cleverly disguised.

Posted by: littleviking 2.Apr.2014, 11:53 AM

QUOTE (lucky1989 @ 2.Apr.2014, 10:51 AM) *
absoulty i cant speak swedish ,but have proper enghlish skills, i want to do master degree in (IT) with eran some mony for cover my living cost, thats why i try to do part time job also, do u know other universites better to do master degree and also doing part time job during the study?


I would like to add that studies here require good English and for a master you have very big requirements. You will not pass courses with the English used here in this post. You will write at the end also an dissertation paper which is like a mini doctoral thesis which requires academic English level.
For English speaking jobs you should search an English speaking country.

QUOTE (Ivor steph? @ 2.Apr.2014, 11:08 AM) *
Sweden is a Swedish speaking country, the exception being in professional employment (Usually within Stockholm).
But part time and menial jobs require Swedish.

You can't work in a mc donalds serving customers if you don't speak the local language, and that goes for many jobs. Unless you work in a professional capacity, but since you are still in school and only looking for part time work then this doesn't apply to you (especially in Jonkoping). Jobs such as toilet cleaning etc, are carried out by desperate individuals who already have the language. And usually there is a line of people ready to step in for a toilet cleaning style job if it becomes available.

Unemployment is high in Sweden, but cleverly disguised.


I hate to agree with Ivor but he is quite accurate. Swedish is a must for even the smallest part time job. Sweden has a large number of international students but does not have part time jobs even for the Swedish students.
And a study in Sweden requires 40 hours a week studies and beside that you have homework assignments and so on especially in IT. Most masters are research based and you will have a lot of reading and assignments to do. Most likely you will end up doing 60-80 hours of studying and no time for part time jobs.
You are required to have 7500 kr per month by the migration office and you have to prove you have the money for a year or two as long as your study period is here.
Unemployment is high even for the Swedish speaking people.

Lying to you that everything is hunky dory and you will find jobs growing in trees is not realistic

Posted by: nickachu 2.Apr.2014, 01:20 PM

I'm studying in Lule?, and also have a job, working about 28 hours a week (Every single weekend). Working as a chef up here, only reason I got the job was because I worked for the same company in Ume? before. It is hard for foreigners to get jobs here, but we have 4 or 5 people from foreign countries who are studying working in the dish room here. It is possible, but in Lule?, and all of Sweden, it's about who you know rather than what. Also it is exhausting.

Posted by: kokoko 2.Apr.2014, 02:48 PM

QUOTE (littleviking @ 2.Apr.2014, 10:53 AM) *
And a study in Sweden requires 40 hours a week studies and beside that you have homework assignments and so on especially in IT. Most masters are research based and you will have a lot of reading and assignments to do. Most likely you will end up doing 60-80 hours of studying and no time for part time jobs.

Full time study is considered 40 hours/week, but that already includes homeworks, labs, seminars, projects, etc. It's not like you attend 40 hours of lectures and then you need to do other things on top of it. Nobody spends 60+ hours. Even 40 hours is more than what a mediocre student actually needs to get top grades.

So there is plenty time for a part-time job especially if you don't mind passing with low grades, and not being able to socialize with other students. It is quite difficult to find the job though.

Posted by: djdjdj 2.Apr.2014, 02:54 PM

I'm only mentioning this because you haven't applied yet, but you might want to consider Stockholm. I came as a student not speaking Swedish and found a job right away as an English "tutor". I was essentially a glorified babysitter for kids that had lived abroad and as such already spoke English, but it was flexible enough to work around my uni schedule (master's), and paid enough to cover my living costs. The company I worked for was crying out for more native English speaking students to meet the demand.

Also, while this surely isn't true of all subjects and all schools, from my experience and the experience of many others I've spoken with (various disciplines), university studies in Sweden are nowhere near as full on as abroad. The workload was a fraction of what it was for me in other countries (I'm comparing to Canada and Australia). I've heard similar remarks from Americans and other European nationals as well. So if you have any previous uni experience you'll likely have no trouble studying "full time" and working part time. I studied at Uppsala btw.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Posted by: jusso22 2.Apr.2014, 10:27 PM

Hi djdjdj,

Im heading to Uppsala this year to study a Masters degree and im Australian. I would love to know what the company was for the tutor/nannying and any other tips you could provide? Have enough saved technically to see me through but would prefer some work so i dont eat too far into it. Also is it a problem if im a male for this sort of job?

Thanks for your help!

Posted by: jim747 18.Apr.2014, 10:10 AM

QUOTE (kokoko @ 2.Apr.2014, 03:48 PM) *
Full time study is considered 40 hours/week, but that already includes homeworks, labs, seminars, projects, etc. It's not like you attend 40 hours of lectures and then you need to do other things on top of it. Nobody spends 60+ hours. Even 40 hours is more than what a mediocre student actually needs to get top grades.

So there is plenty time for a part-time job especially if you don't mind passing with low grades, and not being able to socialize with other students. It is quite difficult to find the job though.


Wrong. I study full time at the university in Ume?, and I often put in over 60 hours per week as group work and research are not included in the 40 hours study week. It also means meeting at weekends to finely tune presentations etc.

Posted by: passport-stamps 18.Apr.2014, 02:33 PM

QUOTE (jim747 @ 18.Apr.2014, 10:10 AM) *
Wrong. I study full time at the university in Ume?, and I often put in over 60 hours per week as group work and research are not included in the 40 hours study week. It also means meeting at weekends to finely tune presentations etc.


Could it be that your learning habits are a bit slower than others? No disrespect but it is unfair to use your experience as a barometer to determine what uni studies in Sweden will be like for everyone. My uni in America was heavily research-based and when I did my Masters, I took the maximum number of credits permitted every semester and taught full-time freshman courses concurrently, and I still never put it anything close to 60 hours per week. I'd guess about 40 per week but that is even pushing it. Still did all the required work, publications, conferences and all, and ended up with stellar grades.

Your experience cannot be everyone's experience, so it is a bit to unfair to dismiss someone's ability to work full-time and go to school full-time. I did it and in fact, ALL the international students I knew in the US did it. Some of them even had two full-time jobs while being full-time students and ended up with better grades than most Americans.

Posted by: jim747 27.Apr.2014, 07:06 PM

QUOTE (passport-stamps @ 18.Apr.2014, 03:33 PM) *
Could it be that your learning habits are a bit slower than others? No disrespect but it is unfair to use your experience as a barometer to determine what uni studies in Sweden will be like for everyone. My uni in America was heavily research-based and when I did my Masters, I took the maximum number of credits permitted every semester and taught full-time freshman courses concurrently, and I still never put it anything close to 60 hours per week. I'd guess about 40 per week but that is even pushing it. Still did all the required work, publications, conferences and all, and ended up with stellar grades.

Your experience cannot be everyone's experience, so it is a bit to unfair to dismiss someone's ability to work full-time and go to school full-time. I did it and in fact, ALL the international students I knew in the US did it. Some of them even had two full-time jobs while being full-time students and ended up with better grades than most Americans.


So how would you explain the group? Every individual is slow?

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