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Posted by: Beatochka 6.Sep.2010, 10:53 PM

I am coming to Lulea with my family. I would like to ask for some information about costs of living, transport, schools and - of course - the harsh climate...Is the winter in Lulea really that hard to survive? My daughter is 11. We speak only English. How she will cope with new school, learning new language? Has anybody have similar experience behind and would like to share with me? Would 3000 euro salary be enough to support a family of 3? I would appreciate any sincere reflection, comment, advice from people who regard Lulea as their HOME.

Posted by: gplusa 6.Sep.2010, 11:19 PM

Winter is only a problem for people in the south. It's no real hassle up here. Roads and footpaths are always clear, and people have good winter tyres on their cars. Public transport is good, and not really affected by the weather. 30k SEK will get you a place to rent ok. Depending on where you want to be, you'll pay around 6 000 SEK to rent a good size apartment in Luleå. A little cheaper in Boden, which is an alternative.

Posted by: Beatochka 7.Sep.2010, 09:25 AM

Thanks a lot. My partner is going first. He needs to find a flat for the time being. We will join him later. I understand, I have very little chance to find work myself before learnig Swedish. So we will have to live on his earning...Do you think it is sufficient to suppot a family of 3?

We would like to buy a house at a later stage. You said the transport and roads are good, so I believe there should be no problems if we lived outside Lulea?

Posted by: Beatochka 7.Sep.2010, 09:32 AM

Do you know any good letting agency in Lulea, that we could try?

Posted by: byke 7.Sep.2010, 09:45 AM

where are you moving from?

Posted by: Beatochka 7.Sep.2010, 09:56 AM

From Ireland...I live in the NorthWest co Donegal

Posted by: gplusa 7.Sep.2010, 10:21 AM

I live outside of Luleå and travel in every day for work. I've never had any trouble. The contractors are always out in force whenever it snows, and there's not a whole lot of ice on the roads. Last year we had one bad day when it was 30 below, about an 80kph wind, and 1m of snow fell over the course of the working day. Even then, I happily drove my Volvo across town and home, waving merrily to the Arabs trying to dig their mercs out of snow drifts.

Posted by: gplusa 7.Sep.2010, 10:30 AM

There's a little bit of a shortage of apartment accomodation in Luleå at present. Nothing too drastic, but the available areas are more limited. There's a couple of big construction projects underway at present which will a few hundred more city apartments onto the market. By a family of 3, I'm assuming that you mean 2 adults and one child ? You can start by contacting LuleBo, they are the kommun rental housing providers in Luleå. They have 2 bedroom rental apartments available for around 5,000 kr a month. Might pay to come and have a look at the areas on offer first, if you can. Before commiting to anything.

Posted by: JulieLou40 7.Sep.2010, 10:30 AM

QUOTE (gplusa @ 7.Sep.2010, 09:21 AM) *
I live outside of Luleå and travel in every day for work. I've never had any trouble. The contractors are always out in force whenever it snows, and there's not a whole lot of ice on the roads. Last year we had one bad day when it was 30 below, about an 80kph wind, and 1m of snow fell over the course of the working day. Even then, I happily drove my Volvo across town and home, waving merrily to the Arabs trying to dig their mercs out of snow drifts.


I second that. The way they deal with tough weather up here would put any other country to shame (I'm thinking particularly the UK here!!!). I find that in the seriously cold winter, everything runs as normal in Luleå-transport is fine, you can drive on the roads no problem (with your winter tyres, obviously), all the businesses are open, and pavements are properly gritted-which is good for those of us who do a lot of walking.
I think the income you have quoted sounds fine to support your family, particularly renting a home. Myself & my partner are probably quite lucky, as we rent a flat from the kommun (the council) in a great area, heating and use of the laundry facilities is included (as much tumble drying as you want, yay!), and we pay a really reasonable rate, which is way less than I paid in the UK, without any of those things included.

You could stay on the waiting list for years to rent a home from Lulebo (the housing company) before you buy later on as you are planning. All the same, it probably wouldn't hurt to check out their website (www.lulebo.se) and see how you go about joining the queue.

I'm not sure how good the private rental market is here, I'm afraid.

Luleå is a beautiful place to live, I'm certainly happy I moved here. If you want to exchange details and meet up once you're here, please private message me on here. It can be nice to have friends when you move to a new country.

All the best

Julie

Posted by: JulieLou40 7.Sep.2010, 10:33 AM

Ha ha, myself & Grant seeemed to have overlapped slightly with our replies to you! Methinks we've gotten all excited and enthusiastic when we saw a question that we could both answer!! Usually people enquire about Stockholm, Gothenburg, the usual areas biggrin.gif

Posted by: JulieLou40 7.Sep.2010, 10:41 AM

QUOTE (Beatochka @ 6.Sep.2010, 09:53 PM) *
My daughter is 11. We speak only English. How she will cope with new school, learning new language? Has anybody have similar experience behind and would like to share with me?


I forgot to add before that my son (aged 10) has just started school in Luleå two weeks ago. They have a great system here for immigrants-any children that cannot speak Swedish are sent to a special type of school called Valkomsten. There they are taught intensive Swedish. My son can already count up to 50, name most of his body parts, and other amazing things, and that's after a fortnight!! When we sounded out the school back in February when we were here, the head told us that it never used to be like that, but that they realised the system of plonking foreign kids straight into a Swedish school wasn't working. The kids inveitably fell behind. So they formed this school. The head also told me that she had had the privilege of hand-picking every member of staff that works there, so she picked the best. The staff are really lovely.

The plan is that once your child reaches a suitable level of Swedish that they could understand lessons in a regular Swedish school, they then move on. This could mean anything from a few months to over a year, it all depends on the individual.

My son has already made friends from Afghanistan, China, Africa, & Russia. The system at that school obviously works, because I see all of these children communicating with each other in swedish. It's a funny sight til you get used to it smile.gif

Posted by: Beatochka 7.Sep.2010, 11:31 AM

Thanks Julie...It's really upliftng what you are writing. The more I know about Sweden, the less afraid I am of the move. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kaze 7.Sep.2010, 11:51 AM

I disagree on winter...you don't realise it until you experience it but it is hard to get through going weeks at a time without seeing sunlight.
I hear there's lamps which replicate sunlight you can get which help things but I've never had them myself/.

Sounds like a cool system for the foreign kids. Britain should steal it.

Posted by: gplusa 7.Sep.2010, 12:19 PM

I can't say that I've ever had a problem with the winters up here. The first year I started getting really tired and hungry around 2pm. I learnt that was a daylight thing, and it's not a problem now. It's also not like it's pitch dark the whole time either. And once the snow starts to lie, everything brightens up and the light takes on quite a pretty colour. So it's better if the snow arrives as early as possible, in my opinion. Give me a crisp snow covered day over a wet windy day anytime.

Posted by: Beatochka 7.Sep.2010, 12:32 PM

smile.gif Thanks...How long the winter last there? What about the spring and summer? What about people in Lulea... You all sound very nice to me smile.gif Friendly...

Posted by: gplusa 7.Sep.2010, 12:46 PM

Well, it's a kick arse day in Luleå today, if that helps. I've got a friend in Boden who has also hails from Ireland, and he tells me that anything beats an Irish winter. I'll take his word for that. The snow generally arrives in around mid November, and stays until probably some time in March. The spring thaw is probably the worst time, I would have to say. Quite a bit of surface water around the countryside until the ground thaws properly, and a few mouldy fungus spores flying around. Right now the leaves are JUST starting to change colour.

Posted by: Beatochka 7.Sep.2010, 12:47 PM

Tell me, how is the Swedish language? Do you all speak it? I mean, the ones of you, who are not born Swedes... smile.gif Is it difficult to learn? I read, that there are good schools and courses for people coming from different countries to live in Sweden? (Julie talked about her son) Has any of you finished such course for adults?

Posted by: gplusa 7.Sep.2010, 12:52 PM

You do really need to have Swedish as a language up here. I'm rather envious of the people in southern areas who seem to be able to survive quite happily with English. Doesn't really work so well up here. I've been through adult language classes both in Luleå and in Boden. First as a day student and then with evening classes. It's pretty hard to just "pick it up as you go", so I'd really recommend a formal class. So that you can understand the hows and whys. I went cold turkey after 6 months and stopped speaking English. Kind of spoke like Yoda for quite a long time after that, but it did give faster progress.

Posted by: Beatochka 7.Sep.2010, 12:56 PM

Irish weather is a topic of its own, believe me... Very little difference between seasons. I am not Irish myslef, but I learned over the years to like the weather here. I had no choice... I like snowy winter and I love Autumn even more. I was a bit scared of the lenght of the winter in Lulea and the darkness in particular... I suppose it will take some time to adjust, get used to new conditions, climate, new HOME. No point to dishearten ourselves before we even come and see...

Posted by: gplusa 7.Sep.2010, 01:05 PM

The darkness isn't so bad, or maybe that's just me. Remember that the sun does get above the horizon in Luleå. Just. So there is some daylight. When the snow comes, it reflects every speck of light, so things actually get brighter. It does blow a bit in Luleå, being a harbour city. And it can be a bit of a crisp wind when it comes in off the frozen sea during winter. Which is why I only work there and don't live there. But the infrastructure is designed to deal very well with the climatic conditions. Our home is never colder than 24 degrees inside, no matter what the temperature is outdoors, and the footpaths on the major inner city streets are heated to ensure there's no snow or ice lying on them. It's better conditions than we had in New Zealand.

Posted by: Beatochka 7.Sep.2010, 01:05 PM

smile.gif well, it's a challenge...Life-long-learning... Thanks for all your replies and sincerity.

Posted by: Rikey 8.Oct.2010, 01:23 AM

AH, You are from New Zealand. Now that makes sense.

Life in the north is Hard. This people posting are real tough and they don't complain.

I almost went nuts in Stockholm much less Lulea. These are one tough cookies.They write like it is like Majorca.GL.

Where in NZ.did you come from. I bet the South Island. Queenstown??? Clearly not Auckland.

Posted by: dsr10 12.Feb.2012, 09:03 PM

Hi

I have read your add, regarding your relocation to Lulea. I am relocating to Lulea shortly. I am from Norway.
Could you please let me know, what is like Lulea society and people? I have read some articles on net regarding, racism and discrimination in Sweden. Honestly I got scared. I am just about to reject my job offer in Lulea but I love the role. I am in a huge dilemma.
Could you please let me know what the truth is?
You are from Ireland; I worked in Ireland for 3 years and I love it.
Any info, it would be much appreciate.

Regards
DSR

Posted by: honeybadger 22.Feb.2012, 10:18 AM

Hi dsr10, I recently moved to Lulea, in January of 2012 to be with my sambo. I previously lived in Ireland for 4 years. I personally haven't experienced any racism here but since I live with my sambo, I don't get a chance to meet people outside his circle of friends.

I don't know how it would be in the workplace here but if you do choose to come here for work, let me know of your experiences as one day, I too will be looking for work when I learn Swedish. biggrin.gif

I personally struggle from boredom at the moment since I originally come from such a huge city and my own personal experiences are that my sambo doesn't really make any new friends, he just continues to visit the same small circle of existing ones.

Perhaps I would get to make more friends if I was able to find work or when I start to study. Anyway, I'm happy to talk more about any questions you might have.

Best of luck to you!

Posted by: Whimad 27.Oct.2013, 02:03 PM

Hi I'm going on exchange to lulea and would like to know more about the lifestyle there i.e. what you guys do during your free time.

thanks!

Posted by: jasmith 22.Aug.2014, 11:36 AM

In this discussion every member has shared good information about Lulea. This place sounds good. After reading your shared knowledge about this place I decided to go there. In coming up next month I would be free from my exams so; I have planed to go there with my younger sister and elder brother. Both of them loves to explore the world. I hope we will enjoy there. Anyone like to give me some tips to follow during my tour.

Posted by: RL1993 6.Apr.2018, 03:30 PM

Hi all!

I'm moving upto Lulea to work on a Facebook data centre.

I'm 24 from Ireland, and I've did some research on Lulea. It seems quite remote from everywhere else?

I've tried to google a lot of this info but it's better to hear it from locals I figured! I am working for an Irish construction company and I'll have a few work colleagues but most of them are all married/older. I will be working on a 3 weeks on 1 week off roster - so rather than fly home to Ireland I may just stay up in Lulea and travel a bit on my week off. The company has arranged apartment accommodation for us in the centre of Lulea town/city.

I don't speak Swedish but I definitely want to learn it, I think it's always positive to make the effort of speaking to the locals in their mother tongue in any country (even if I'm hard to understand!)

Are there many nightlife options? Like pubs/nightclubs during the week or at the weekends? I'm aware that there are a few universities in the town.

Are there plenty of activities to keep you occupied at the weekends? Are there many gyms or fitness centres.

I'm just back from Australia and basically I suppose what I'm saying is - would I be better off staying in Dublin for lifestyle/quality of life rather than moving upto Lulea? If I thought it was a fairly remote area with not much happening (no disrespect) I don't think I'd like it, particularly in the Winter if it's dark for a lot of the day? I do get bouts of depression and Seasonal Affective Disorder could affect it.

I have lived away from home in New York for 3 months and Australia for 6 months but this project will be 18 months or so. I'm conscious that it could be a great experience but also a bit of a culture shock moving to Sweden, and potentially quite lonely if there isn't much of a scene for young people.

I do realise that Sweden continously tops the polls every year for the worldwide happiness scale and best places to live etc.

Any info on this from a Swedish local perspective would be greatly appreciated, and apologies if I've taken a negative view of this - I just want to make the right decision rather than move up there then tell my employer I don't like it!

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: intrepidfox 6.Apr.2018, 05:34 PM

QUOTE (RL1993 @ 6.Apr.2018, 02:30 PM) *
Hi all!

I'm moving upto Lulea to work on a Facebook data centre.

I'm 24 from Ireland, and I've did some research on Lulea. It seems quite remote from everywhere else?

I've tried to google a lot of this info but it's better to hear it from locals I figured! I am working for an Irish construction company and I'll have a few work colleagues but most of them are all married/older. I will be working on a 3 weeks on 1 week off roster - so rather than fly home to Ireland I may just stay up in Lulea and travel a bit on my week off. The company has arranged apartment accommodation for us in the centre of Lulea town/city.

I don't speak Swedish but I definitely want to learn it, I think it's always positive to make the effort of speaking to the locals in their mother tongue in any country (even if I'm hard to understand!)

Are there many nightlife options? Like pubs/nightclubs during the week or at the weekends? I'm aware that there are a few universities in the town.

Are there plenty of activities to keep you occupied at the weekends? Are there many gyms or fitness centres.

I'm just back from Australia and basically I suppose what I'm saying is - would I be better off staying in Dublin for lifestyle/quality of life rather than moving upto Lulea? If I thought it was a fairly remote area with not much happening (no disrespect) I don't think I'd like it, particularly in the Winter if it's dark for a lot of the day? I do get bouts of depression and Seasonal Affective Disorder could affect it.

I have lived away from home in New York for 3 months and Australia for 6 months but this project will be 18 months or so. I'm conscious that it could be a great experience but also a bit of a culture shock moving to Sweden, and potentially quite lonely if there isn't much of a scene for young people.

I do realise that Sweden continously tops the polls every year for the worldwide happiness scale and best places to live etc.

Any info on this from a Swedish local perspective would be greatly appreciated, and apologies if I've taken a negative view of this - I just want to make the right decision rather than move up there then tell my employer I don't like it!

Thanks in advance.


This might give you a bit of info.

http://visitlulea.se/en/besoekare/tellus/category/289

They even have an o´learys pub

Posted by: gplusa 8.Apr.2018, 10:01 PM

If you are coming for the DC project, you will be working 7-7, 6 days a week. So I would not worry about filling in your hours during your work roster. As an earlier poster mentioned, there are a couple of Irish bars in town. If you are a big city partygoer then you probably want to go somewhere else for your off-site rotation. You need to allow 6 hours door to door from Luleå to Dublin. You should be a bit careful posting on the forums. Most people know who the end user of the project is, but you do have an NDA. Might see you around on site.

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