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Unions urge GM to review new Saab bid

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post 21.Dec.2009, 07:31 AM
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Swedish union leaders are urging GM to consider Dutch sports carmaker Spyker's new offer for Saab.

The head of the influential IF Metall union called on the US auto firm to examine the renewed bid for Saab, which employs about 3,400 people in Sweden.

"I understand the frustration felt by everyone who is dependent on Saab, to be thrown between hope and despair is terrible. GM must now respond with a serious examination of the new bid," union chairman Stefan Löfven said.

General Motors said on Friday that it would close Saab, based in western Sweden, after it failed to agree upon a sale with the Dutch carmaker.

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*Guest*
post 21.Dec.2009, 08:48 AM
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The Swedish government must make sure that GM accepts the offer, stating that if it doesn't, it will seize the property for having fallen into criminal hands, and turn it over to the new management for nothing - what GM says it is willing to settle for.
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Renfeh Hguh
post 21.Dec.2009, 09:11 AM
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Location: Not in Sweden
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The Swedish government should stay out of it. SAAB is dead unless it finds a very rich sugar daddy who can afford to invest in a new model platform, which Spyker and it's former KGB backers are not.
If Spyker truly had the financial backing behind them that SAAB needs, then Spyker itself would be a much bigger company in the niche sports car market. At the moment Spyker is tiny compared with TVR and Morgan.
Get real!
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*Guest*
post 21.Dec.2009, 09:47 AM
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This is just pathetic scaremongering - The Russians are coming! The KGB is coming!, etc., - when, in fact, it is just the criminal activities of the incompetent gang running GM, thanks to massive public assistance to keep it running, which is coming.
GM is what everyone should be afraid because it is a publicly financed monopoly, out to take over everyting it can.
Spyker wants to take over the business, and make a go of it, and why shouldn't it?
Are western governments simply to prop up their own failing industries, and let them go down the drain when they collapse, as if the Iron Curtain was still up?
Get real yourself!
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xavidx
post 21.Dec.2009, 10:02 AM
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Joined: 13.Oct.2009

Spyker has the money. GM is selling.
Whats the problem. I dont understand this situation. GM Sucks.
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rahpor
post 21.Dec.2009, 10:03 AM
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Joined: 18.Dec.2009

It indeed is strange that a company, for 60% owned by US taxpayers, can take their losses by winding down a company instead of (at least) getting some money back for it by some ungrounded fear of 'Russians in my backyard'. Seems to scare the hell out of them, so badly they immidiatly stop talking.
Appearantly the situation in the US isn't that bad at all. All the stories we hear of people losing jobs, losing healthcare, houseprices dropping are not true? Why else should taxpayers agree on these practices? This is how your goverment is wasting billions in companies like GM instead of helping the people on the street!
Even if Spyker could not make it a profitable carbuilder, why not sell it to them and get at least some money back? Unwinding is an expensive operation too!
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ingvar
post 21.Dec.2009, 10:13 AM
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"What is good for GM is good for America"
The Swedish government should learn from its oversea partners.
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aaww
post 21.Dec.2009, 10:24 AM
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what is Spyker trying to buy now? the SAAB brand name? or 3400 employees?
as i understand, that company has nothing left
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Run Malmö
post 21.Dec.2009, 11:04 AM
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Joined: 23.Nov.2009

What makes you think G.M: would save Saab after it closed two of it's own brands
Saab has been a dead car maker since the U.S. Yuppies decided it wasn't cool anymore. Not profitable...EVER!
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rahpor
post 21.Dec.2009, 11:56 AM
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Joined: 18.Dec.2009

U.S. Yuppies decided it wasn't cool anymore?
GM decided Saab should look more like BMW and order to build another sedan, next to the 9-5. And then they moved production to Austria. Maybe not a big deal in the US, it was a big deal in Europe and the clear evidence GM didn't understand a thing they were doing.
Saabs were bought by doctors, architects, creative designers and bankers. They lost Saab when GM made again a wrong decision, ruining another brand (like Pontiac was always the sporty brand... also died by GM putting the Pontiac label on other cars from the GM group)
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Luckystrike
post 21.Dec.2009, 12:38 PM
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Location: Stockholm
Joined: 4.Jun.2009

Amazing. We have so many auto industry specialists on TL.
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Eagle63
post 21.Dec.2009, 01:03 PM
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Location: Not in Sweden
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Because Saabs are so common in Sweden, most Swedes do not see the uniqueness of Saab (admittedly watered-down by GM, but the potential is still there).
Sometimes it takes an outsider to recognize how special Saab (and many other Swedish products..) is.
Not many car brands have such a loyal following all over the world.
It is/was still the car of choice for the more intelligent driver, who doesn't care about the status of the 'Big Germans', like airline pilots, engineers, architects, surgeons and yes... even a few astronauts...!
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Scotsaab
post 21.Dec.2009, 01:23 PM
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Joined: 19.Dec.2009

Sad to see US-biased comments are once again trying to influence Euro/Sandanavian industry. The US market is unique and while many sensible and intelligent buyers over there have bought our Euro cars the majority still favour old and cheap home-grown US technology. Leave them to it. Saab can survive. It's a great marque. Let's not tie ourselves to any US influence - it always ends in tears.
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Eagle63
post 21.Dec.2009, 01:32 PM
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Location: Not in Sweden
Joined: 3.Dec.2009

What other small economy anywhere has such unique and diverse homegrown industry as Sweden ?
Unfortunately being proud of all that is viewed as not politically correct or too nationalistic even...
Eventually this attitude backfires.
Common Sweden.. be proud of your heritage, uniqueness and your people..!
To me (being Dutch) Sweden remains in my 'Top 3 of Favorite countries' , right behind mighy Canada..
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Beynch
post 21.Dec.2009, 02:01 PM
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Joined: 25.Aug.2009

Keep the unions out of this. They're nothing but trouble.
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