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Gjeebes you are right

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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 5.Sep.2019, 11:28 PM
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I believe the NRA suggested the same thing years ago...with the example that banks have guards to protect money but there is no protection for our children...

I'm guessing politicians would rather protect money than children...
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Svedallas
post 5.Sep.2019, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 5.Sep.2019, 04:19 PM) *
Does everyone who owns guns go on a shooting spree?There are millions of law abiding, good citizens that own guns that have not and will never go on a shooting spree. To puni ... (show full quote)


Let us not forget what happened in Norway several years ago.
That was a devastating "school" shooting.

The only countries which have the least amount of shootings is probably Japan.


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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 5.Sep.2019, 11:42 PM
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Didn't they have a poison gas attack a few years ago???

Lunatics will always find the means to harm innocent people, everywhere...Suicide vests...anyone???
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skogsbo
post 6.Sep.2019, 05:54 AM
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QUOTE (Svedallas @ 5.Sep.2019, 11:33 PM) *
Let us not forget what happened in Norway several years ago.. That was a devastating "school" shooting.. The only countries which have the least amount of shootings is probably Japan.

Norway was a political rally. A group of young liberals, shot by far right activist. There was nothing school related at all.
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skogsbo
post 6.Sep.2019, 05:56 AM
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QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 5.Sep.2019, 11:28 PM) *
I believe the NRA suggested the same thing years ago...with the example that banks have guards to protect money but there is no protection for our children...I'm guessing ... (show full quote)

The problem is it's the kids shooting each other. Not protecting the kids from bad people.
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 6.Sep.2019, 12:17 AM) *
There was a govt. official who stated (jokingly) that if all black males were eliminated from society, violent crime would drop to almost nothing. Factually that is a true st ... (show full quote)


There have been armed police/ security guards/ metal detectors in schools for a long time. Not all... but it has definitely been in place at schools for a long time.

Should we turn schools into prison? How about we ban guns PERMANENTLY rather than subject our children to that environment... they already have to go through shooting drills.

End school and mass shootings and people driving cars into peaceful protests (USA)—- eliminate white male conservatives- problem solved

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 6.Sep.2019, 12:28 AM) *
I believe the NRA suggested the same thing years ago...with the example that banks have guards to protect money but there is no protection for our children...I'm guessing ... (show full quote)


There have been metal detectors and armed guards in school for a long time.

Yes, politicians would rather protect the money they get from the NRA and perpetuate their agenda rather than protect children. Funny how republicans are notoriously in bed with the NRA.

QUOTE (Svedallas @ 6.Sep.2019, 12:33 AM) *
Let us not forget what happened in Norway several years ago.. That was a devastating "school" shooting.. The only countries which have the least amount of shootings is probably Japan.


It was another mass shooting my a white male conservative— this one of the white nationalist breed.

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 6.Sep.2019, 12:42 AM) *
Didn't they have a poison gas attack a few years ago???. Lunatics will always find the means to harm innocent people, everywhere...Suicide vests...anyone???


Funny that the vast majority of school and mass shooters are white male conservatives—- or lunatics as you say.



Conservatives resistance to gun law reform perpetuates the crisis.

Why do we need access to Ak-47’s? Why do we need access to 100 plus round drum magazines? We don’t. Why is it that in 36 states you don’t need a permit, license or even to register as a gun owner to own a gun??


Bsmith your little squirrel gun would not be capable of mass damage... let alone any death without a ridiculous scenario.


Fact is... America has some of the most relaxed gun laws in the world and they have the worst problems with mass and school shootings. Gee... I wonder if those are related.

Funny that countries with strict gun laws, or bans, are still free and it’s citizens still feel free. Freedom does not equal gun ownership. Nor does the removal of guns/ very strict gun laws mean the removal of freedom... as proven by many many countries.

Do you also want child porn and driving while intoxicated to be legal? Crack, meth, and heroin should be sold in Walmart and online and at drug trade shows... who cares if they kill and cause many problems... I want freedom. I want freedom to walk around naked everywhere... I want the freedom to drive a car without a license...
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE (skogsbo @ 6.Sep.2019, 06:56 AM) *
The problem is it's the kids shooting each other. Not protecting the kids from bad people.


Makes me think of the most recent chappelle stand up....

They run drills in school nowadays to be prepared for a school shooting... what they fail to realize is that they are probably informing the shooter as well....

White male conservative in back of classroom raises hand.... “Mrs. Smith, where do we all meet for the “safe spot” again?
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cootje1976
post 6.Sep.2019, 07:35 AM
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"Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." - Aristotle
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE (cootje1976 @ 6.Sep.2019, 08:35 AM) *
"Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." - Aristotle


The Netherlands has very strict gun laws... are there many mass/ school shootings? Is the Dutch govt being tyrannical with these strict gun laws?

The government is also very liberal and there are many personal freedoms in that “feminine democracy”

Are they about to give in to tyranny?

All these guns lead to chaos. Well regulated militias become hate groups, militias form out of defense of another militia, to fight yet another militia.... sounds like the development of urban gangs.
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 08:15 AM
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I made a separate thread for this gun discussion....


https://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?s...mp;#entry944250
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Bsmith
post 6.Sep.2019, 01:03 PM
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Very few schools have metal detectors. Most schools security measures are locked doors which are made of glass and easily defeated, a few cameras that no one monitors and badges for employees. Oh, and some no guns allowed stickers on the doors. Actual security measures, like we have had to adopt in airports, would solve the problem or school shootings right now.

You, however, want to ban all guns permanently. Why stop there? Guns only kill a small fraction of people each year. Let's ban all recreational drugs and alcohol and really save some lives. Oh, wait, that's been tried already.
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intrepidfox
post 6.Sep.2019, 02:21 PM
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If you want to talk about America and the shit happening there start a new effing post. This is life in Sweden not the good old USA
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Saywhatwhat
post 6.Sep.2019, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 6.Sep.2019, 02:03 PM) *
Very few schools have metal detectors. Most schools security measures are locked doors which are made of glass and easily defeated, a few cameras that no one monitors and bad ... (show full quote)



I said ban guns there once. Ideally, sure. Realistically I know that can’t happen.

The percentage of homicides that are caused by a gun are almost 75%... we aren’t talking about death in general... however harm reduction practices and legalization has lowered drug related deaths. Part of problem there is that the pharma companies keep coming up with stronger opioids.

Stick with the program/ reality and debate massive gun law reform... not banning guns.

And of course most schools aren’t like that... they shouldn’t need to be prisons! Should there be armed guards patrolling the halls with m16’s?! Or should there be some friggin massive gun law reform.

Bad people will do bad people stuff. We don’t need to make it so easy for them to get guns!
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skogsbo
post 6.Sep.2019, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 5.Sep.2019, 06:24 PM) *
Has anyone without access to a car ever killed anyone in a road traffic accident? There is your answer, ban cars!


Which is precisely why there is a driving test. Plus if you have numerous medical conditions you don't get a licence either. No one gets a licence and a car instantly in a day.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 7.Sep.2019, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE (skogsbo @ 6.Sep.2019, 06:56 AM) *
The problem is it's the kids shooting each other. Not protecting the kids from bad people.

As a student I never had the urge to kill my classmates and do not know any one who wanted to...What have we done to our children to make them this way???

However one student returned to his old school broke through the doors and killed a LOT of children, he killed his Mother to get the gun...

Our children are NOT at all like children in my day...What happened???
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