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Posted by: HiSweden 8.May.2016, 01:57 PM

Hi guys!

I thought about making a new thread for people who applied for citizenship in 2015 and 2016.

Please share your experience with some info like:


Date of application:
Time spent in Sweden:
Date of decision (if made):
Country of origin:


and also, on what bases you applied?

Waiting to hear your experiences!

Posted by: wondering_again 8.May.2016, 10:41 PM

Date of application: 02 May 2016
Time spent in Sweden: Started in August 2010
Date of decision (if made): Not yet
Country of origin: Asia

and also, on what bases you applied? 4 Years WP + 1 Year PR

I counted the time I first applied for WP which was successful. So I applied in May 2011 and from then it is 5 years.

I will need to send in my passports and the UT card though. Will do it this week.

Posted by: JohnCera 9.May.2016, 10:26 AM

Date of application: August 1st 2015
Time spent in Sweden: Started in June 2010
Date of decision (if made): Not yet
Country of origin: Africa

and also, on what bases you applied?: 4 Years WP + 1 Year PR

Posted by: wondering_again 9.May.2016, 11:06 AM

QUOTE (JohnCera @ 9.May.2016, 10:26 AM) *
Date of application: August 1st 2015
Time spent in Sweden: Started in June 2010
Date of decision (if made): Not yet
Country of origin: Africa

and also, on what bases you applied?: 4 Years WP + 1 Year PR


Do you have a case officer ? Or did you follow up ?

How soon is too soon to follow up ?

Posted by: Martian 9.May.2016, 11:08 AM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 8.May.2016, 02:57 PM) *
Hi guys!

I thought about making a new thread for people who applied for citizenship in 2015 and 2016.

Please share your experience with some info like:


Date of application:
Time spent in Sweden:
Date of decision (if made):
Country of origin:


and also, on what bases you applied?

Waiting to hear your experiences!



How about you answering the same questions first? You started a thread about something and you failed to lead by example.

Posted by: JohnCera 9.May.2016, 12:17 PM

QUOTE (wondering_again @ 9.May.2016, 12:06 PM) *
Do you have a case officer ? Or did you follow up ?

How soon is too soon to follow up ?



No case officer yet. I contacted Migrationsverket last month and they said that the waiting time is still 14-16 months sad.gif.

Posted by: thomuk2006 9.May.2016, 01:11 PM

Date of application: March 20th 2015
Time spent in Sweden: over 5 years! and sambo over 3 years
Date of decision (if made): NONE YET
Country of origin: UK

Posted by: Scottish 9.May.2016, 01:44 PM

Date of application: November 11th, 2015
Time spent in Sweden:More than 5 years now. First ever application with positive result was sent in around Aug, 2011 then broke up with sambo to secure a work permit in Nov, 2011. Got a PUT Nov 2015 and applied for citizenship same day as well (Nov, 2015 )
Date of decision (if made):No decision yet and no case officer assigned till date
Country of origin: Africa

Posted by: jellybreadracer 9.May.2016, 02:05 PM

Date of application: 01 Feb 2015
Time spent in Sweden: Feb 2010 to Present
Date of decision (if made): 22 April 2016
Country of origin: USA

and also, on what bases you applied? 4 Years WP + 1 Year PR

Posted by: Mzungu 10.May.2016, 01:39 PM

Use TL search engine, there are frigging hundreds of threads with a variation of the identical theme...

*just a thought*

Posted by: hsynkrhsn 10.May.2016, 02:46 PM

QUOTE (Mzungu @ 10.May.2016, 02:39 PM) *
Use TL search engine, there are frigging hundreds of threads with a variation of the identical theme...

*just a thought*



There's not a single topic dedicated for citizenship statistics.

Posted by: hsynkrhsn 10.May.2016, 02:49 PM

Date of application: 2015-03-26
Time spent in Sweden: From 2010-08-22 to 2012-10-22 as a student. From 2012-10-23 and on as sambo. 3 years, 6 months, 18 days
Date of decision (if made): Still waiting (13 months, 15 days)

Based on sambo. When I called MV in past March they said they were looking at applications from February 2015. I asked my sambo to call MV in past April and they told her that they were looking at the applications from JANUARY 2015. MV is not trustworthy and full of incompetency. They say the decision times are longer because the case officers at the citizenship unit started answering phone calls and this is now half time workload.

As an applicant, I knew I was going to wait more than 12 months so I applied citizenship 2 months after getting my permanent residency. When my sambo asked why they didn't reject my application, they told her that there was nothing wrong with the application but the time spent (2 years + 5 months) in Sweden wasn't fullfilled so it ended up waiting in the so-called "long decision-waiting queue".

I have a friend who had the same situation as me and he completed his time in Sweden 3 years as a sambo with a full time job and applied 1 year after getting his permanent residency. In the end, he waited 14 months to get his citizenship. (3 years > application > 14 months waiting = 4 years and 2 months in total) It doesn't matter if you meet the time requirement or not, you have to wait regardless. MV gives you the citizenship as they please.

Posted by: groovesalad 10.May.2016, 04:21 PM

Date of application: 2nd December 2015
Time spent in Sweden: 3 years when I had applied
Date of decision (if made): 13th January 2016
Country of origin: Turkey
and also, on what bases you applied?: Sambo

I think I was very lucky with this waiting times.

Posted by: wondering_again 10.May.2016, 10:06 PM

Quick question, if there is a delay in sending in the passport will my application be cancelled ?

They have all my information already but was worried if I delayed in sending it in would cause any issues .

Posted by: Swedex 17.May.2016, 03:55 PM

QUOTE (wondering_again @ 10.May.2016, 11:06 PM) *
Quick question, if there is a delay in sending in the passport will my application be cancelled ?

They have all my information already but was worried if I delayed in sending it in would cause any issues .


No, when your application will be in process they will send you letter about your passport, PUT card and if any more document required from you. Also you can take passport back if you need it.

Posted by: JohnCera 20.May.2016, 06:34 PM

The waiting time has now been increased to 15-17 months huh.gif

Posted by: moizhaad 22.May.2016, 12:33 PM

Date of application: 10 July 2015
Time spent in Sweden: from 10 July 2010
Date of decision (if made): not yet
Country of origin: Asia
4 Years WP + 1 Year PR

I call to MV a few days ago . answer was you still have to wait. how long they don't know .i don't know which kind of investigation they are doing which is taking so long . if they investigate from other Swedish agencies they can get all information in a few days not a few years.
but what i think may be they investigate from home country and other countries where ever person been stay in past with the help of Swedish embassy .
if any body have any information about it then please share with us here smile.gif Thanks

Posted by: Case officer 22.May.2016, 12:59 PM

Earlier this week the processing time was 14 months and increasing.

Posted by: hsynkrhsn 25.May.2016, 11:34 AM

Is there anything to do other than waiting? Anywhere we can file a complaint? Taking it to an Ombudsman will not help but I don't think anyone has to wait 17 months for a decision.

Any suggestions?

Posted by: axiom 25.May.2016, 06:50 PM

Citizen applications in theory have no limit on the time it takes to process them. Meaning they can take as long as they wish, there are no legal requirements to get a decision within a given time.

Posted by: thomuk2006 25.May.2016, 08:02 PM

QUOTE (axiom @ 25.May.2016, 07:50 PM) *
Citizen applications in theory have no limit on the time it takes to process them. Meaning they can take as long as they wish, there are no legal requirements to get a decision within a given time.


Is this really true?? Says Migrationsverket måste utreda ansökan: 15-17 månader... on MVs website... been waiting 14 months myself...

Posted by: the_dome 25.May.2016, 09:16 PM

QUOTE (thomuk2006 @ 25.May.2016, 09:02 PM) *
Is this really true?? Says Migrationsverket måste utreda ansökan: 15-17 månader... on MVs website... been waiting 14 months myself...


No it does not. It says: "Observera att detta inte är ett löfte om att du kommer att få ett beslut inom denna tid. Tiden visar hur lång tid det har tagit för personer med liknande ansökningar att få ett beslut."

That means that it usually takes 15-17 months but it can also take much longer.

Posted by: hsynkrhsn 26.May.2016, 11:44 AM

QUOTE (axiom @ 25.May.2016, 07:50 PM) *
Citizen applications in theory have no limit on the time it takes to process them. Meaning they can take as long as they wish, there are no legal requirements to get a decision within a given time.


If there's no legal limit then there is no point writing long reports by JO and critizing the long processing times. I just don't get the idea of unlimited waiting. You apply and you get a certain time frame. But it's not the case for applicants and this is just unacceptable.

From the report:
De uppgifter som Migrationsverket har redovisat tyder dessutom på att verket har prioriterat enkla ärenden på bekostnad av mer omfattande eller komplicerade ärenden på ett sätt som inte är acceptabelt. Migrationsverket kritiseras för de långa handläggningstiderna och för att författningsreglerade tidsfrister regelmässigt överskrids.

https://www.jo.se/Global/%C3%84mbetsber%C3%A4ttelser/2015-16_Utlanningsarenden.pdf

Posted by: JohnCera 28.May.2016, 09:38 AM

I know a colleague at work who had similar application as mine, he got his decision in a month. He applied in March this year. There is no way that his application didn't require investigation and mine does.

It seems that there is no systematic approach in processing applications.It is a just lottery game smile.gif.

Posted by: jellybreadracer 28.May.2016, 12:29 PM

QUOTE (JohnCera @ 28.May.2016, 08:38 AM) *
I know a colleague at work who had similar application as mine, he got his decision in a month. He applied in March this year. There is no way that his application didn't require investigation and mine does.

It seems that there is no systematic approach in processing applications.It is a just lottery game smile.gif.



I agree, it was the same for me: a co-worker with the same job and less time in Sweden than me applied 8 months later than me, and got a decision a month or two before me.

Posted by: axiom 28.May.2016, 09:12 PM

QUOTE (hsynkrhsn @ 26.May.2016, 10:44 AM) *
If there's no legal limit then there is no point writing long reports by JO and critizing the long processing times. I just don't get the idea of unlimited waiting. You apply and you get a certain time frame. But it's not the case for applicants and this is just unacceptable.

From the report:
De uppgifter som Migrationsverket har redovisat tyder dessutom på att verket har prioriterat enkla ärenden på bekostnad av mer omfattande eller komplicerade ärenden på ett sätt som inte är acceptabelt. Migrationsverket kritiseras för de långa handläggningstiderna och för att författningsreglerade tidsfrister regelmässigt överskrids.

https://www.jo.se/Global/%C3%84mbetsber%C3%A4ttelser/2015-16_Utlanningsarenden.pdf


These are mostly around residence applications, some categories such as EU have legal time limits in which they have to be met, but most are supposed to be met in "reasonable time" or as quickly as possible. When I applied for citizenship I was told this; there is no limit on the time it takes to process citizenship applications. A few years ago there were cases of people waiting years and nothing could be done about it.

Posted by: hsynkrhsn 31.May.2016, 08:29 AM

QUOTE (hsynkrhsn @ 10.May.2016, 03:49 PM) *
Date of application: 2015-03-26
Time spent in Sweden: From 2010-08-22 to 2012-10-22 as a student. From 2012-10-23 and on as sambo. 3 years, 6 months, 18 days
Date of decision (if made): Still waiting (13 months, 15 days)


Update:
Yesterday I got a letter from MV asking my passport back for a decision after waiting 14 months.
(26 March 2015 to 26 May 2016)

Posted by: jenko 7.Jun.2016, 08:04 PM

Applications for Swedish citizenship

Hi guys ! i am living in Sweden from last 3 years and my wife is Swedish , my question is if i live with swedish girl after 3 year i can apply for swedish passport ,,,, But today i call migrationsverket and they said to me i can not apply because i live before in sweden. after my visa expire it was reported police to leave country .. and i go my home country ...
i get marry here and come again ...
now they are tell me in rules i need to wait 5 years ,,,, is there anybody know rules like that ?

Posted by: JohnCera 7.Jun.2016, 10:21 PM

QUOTE (hsynkrhsn @ 31.May.2016, 09:29 AM) *
Update:
Yesterday I got a letter from MV asking my passport back for a decision after waiting 14 months.
(26 March 2015 to 26 May 2016)



Finally! Any decision yet?

Posted by: hsynkrhsn 8.Jun.2016, 04:40 PM

QUOTE (JohnCera @ 7.Jun.2016, 11:21 PM) *
Finally! Any decision yet?


Decision was made on the 3rd of June. I got the letter today!

Posted by: JohnCera 12.Jun.2016, 02:04 PM

QUOTE (hsynkrhsn @ 8.Jun.2016, 05:40 PM) *
Decision was made on the 3rd of June. I got the letter today!


Great!. Hope it is a positive one.

Posted by: moizhaad 12.Jun.2016, 03:52 PM

congratulation

Posted by: thomuk2006 21.Jun.2016, 02:51 PM

Got asked for my passport back! after waiting 15 months for citizenship! fingers crossed I should be getting citizenship soon then biggrin.gif

Posted by: JohnCera 21.Jun.2016, 07:09 PM

Great! at least people are getting decisions. It seems that the MV waiting time of 15-17 is reality, but of course not applicable for everyone.

Posted by: itsmekulvinder 27.Jun.2016, 02:20 PM

Hello,

I think it all depends on how simple/complicated your case is. If you look at the waiting times on migationsverket.se, in case that migrationsverket needs an investigation on your application, the time is 15-17 months.

I and my wife applied during 2nd week of May 2016 and got the citizenship in the end of May 2016. We both have been working just for 5 years in Sweden and came from India in 2011.

Best of luck to all the applicants.

Regards

Posted by: HiSweden 30.Jun.2016, 11:03 AM

QUOTE (itsmekulvinder @ 27.Jun.2016, 02:20 PM) *
Hello,

I think it all depends on how simple/complicated your case is. If you look at the waiting times on migationsverket.se, in case that migrationsverket needs an investigation on your application, the time is 15-17 months.

I and my wife applied during 2nd week of May 2016 and got the citizenship in the end of May 2016. We both have been working just for 5 years in Sweden and came from India in 2011.

Best of luck to all the applicants.

Regards



I don't really think this is the case. It seems that many of the "simple" cases are also taking 12 months and more, many people are married to Swedes and from the EU and they are waiting more than others. I am just having the assumption that it is easier for MV to have information about EU citizens more than any other applicants, and it is still taking long time for many of them.

The difference in time is quite long, some get decisions in the same month of submitting their application, and some get it after 15 months!

Posted by: HiSweden 3.Jul.2016, 02:36 PM

I made my application online on 29th June but did not send my documents by post yet.

Just one question, I should send my PUT card along with my other documents, right?

Posted by: wondering_again 3.Jul.2016, 03:34 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 3.Jul.2016, 01:36 PM) *
I made my application online on 29th June but did not send my documents by post yet.

Just one question, I should send my PUT card along with my other documents, right?


yes

Posted by: HiSweden 7.Jul.2016, 07:35 PM

If you check your application online it says on MV website

QUOTE
If you log in, you can also check your personal data and contact details, as well as seeing what documents you have sent in.


are you guys able to see what documents you have submitted?

Posted by: Arijan 7.Jul.2016, 10:24 PM

Date of application: 09.09.2015
Time spent in Sweden:11 months
Date of decision (if made): not yet
Country of origin: Macedonia


Waiting for 10 months already hope i get a decision soon, is kinda hard the waiting times..

Posted by: Hellohellosweden 8.Jul.2016, 04:29 PM

My question for those who have received their decisions within months,
Have you been ever out of Sweden on vacation for more then 6 weeks
During your residency period of 3 years or 5 years?

Posted by: moizhaad 8.Jul.2016, 05:42 PM

Tid till beslut angry.gif

Ansökan om medborgarskap
Ansökan innehåller all information: 2-6 månader.
Migrationsverket måste utreda ansökan: 16-17 månader.

Posted by: JohnCera 8.Jul.2016, 07:48 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 7.Jul.2016, 08:35 PM) *
If you check your application online it says on MV website



are you guys able to see what documents you have submitted?



You can only see when the application was registered and if a decision was made or not.

Posted by: Martian 8.Jul.2016, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 3.Jul.2016, 03:36 PM) *
I made my application online on 29th June but did not send my documents by post yet.

Just one question, I should send my PUT card along with my other documents, right?


Which other documents are you supposed to send apart from just your passport(s)? Have you forgotten that the same PUT card you have was issued by the same migrationsverket and they have it on their system? Do not complicate your case by sending what is not required of you.

QUOTE (wondering_again @ 3.Jul.2016, 04:34 PM) *
yes


I don't think so. I made my application few days ago and it wasn't written anywhere that I should send my PUT card. I was only required to send my passports (previous and new one). I guess the document requirement is on case by case basis

Posted by: Sabzeena 9.Jul.2016, 12:14 PM

Hello
How can one know that if a case officer is assigned or not?

Posted by: JohnCera 9.Jul.2016, 04:35 PM

QUOTE (Sabzeena @ 9.Jul.2016, 01:14 PM) *
Hello
How can one know that if a case officer is assigned or not?


The only way is to ring/e-mail MV and ask.

Posted by: HiSweden 9.Jul.2016, 04:58 PM

QUOTE (JohnCera @ 9.Jul.2016, 04:35 PM) *
The only way is to ring/e-mail MV and ask.



I think you are waiting for long time now, were you assigned a case officer?

Posted by: JohnCera 9.Jul.2016, 06:47 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 9.Jul.2016, 05:58 PM) *
I think you are waiting for long time now, were you assigned a case officer?



Unfortunately no. I contacted MV, but got the usual copy paste reply i.e. different applications require different investigations and MV can not say how long is going to take before a case officer is assigned.

Posted by: HiSweden 10.Jul.2016, 01:50 PM

QUOTE (Martian @ 8.Jul.2016, 11:05 PM) *
Which other documents are you supposed to send apart from just your passport(s)? Have you forgotten that the same PUT card you have was issued by the same migrationsverket and they have it on their system? Do not complicate your case by sending what is not required of you.



I don't think so. I made my application few days ago and it wasn't written anywhere that I should send my PUT card. I was only required to send my passports (previous and new one). I guess the document requirement is on case by case basis



Yea I thought about that PUT is issued by MV, but I think I read somewhere that I should also send PUT so I was not sure and I asked here, anyways I sent it. If they do not need it, maybe they will send it back, or I will request it along with my passport in few months.


I sent other documents as I was a student and went abroad for exchange studies, so I just showed (in documents) why I was abroad for few months.

Posted by: Hellohellosweden 10.Jul.2016, 03:53 PM

How long it's gonna take to get a case officer?

Posted by: Hellohellosweden 11.Jul.2016, 10:21 AM

Hello
Can anyone guide me about the vacation because
What I heard was for 50 days and that makes 7 weeks
But the i heard that only 6 weeks are allowed,so is it a
6 weeks rule or 7 weeks rule for vacation?

Posted by: HiSweden 11.Jul.2016, 10:51 AM

QUOTE (Hellohellosweden @ 11.Jul.2016, 10:21 AM) *
Hello
Can anyone guide me about the vacation because
What I heard was for 50 days and that makes 7 weeks
But the i heard that only 6 weeks are allowed,so is it a
6 weeks rule or 7 weeks rule for vacation?


6 weeks are allowed, if you went abroad longer period then it doesn't count in your habitual residence. So, if you have been abroad for 7 weeks, then all 7 weeks are deducted from your time of residence in Sweden.

Posted by: Hellohellosweden 11.Jul.2016, 06:53 PM

Hello
If you have a case number does that means that
You have a case officer too?
Can anyone tell?

Posted by: JohnCera 11.Jul.2016, 07:15 PM

QUOTE (Hellohellosweden @ 11.Jul.2016, 07:53 PM) *
Hello
If you have a case number does that means that
You have a case officer too?
Can anyone tell?



Unfortunately No.

Posted by: HiSweden 12.Jul.2016, 12:41 AM

Is there any way to check online on MV's website if my documents have arrived to MV? (except tracking the shipment on postnord)

Posted by: JohnCera 12.Jul.2016, 09:49 AM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 12.Jul.2016, 01:41 AM) *
Is there any way to check online on MV's website if my documents have arrived to MV? (except tracking the shipment on postnord)



That is not possible, at least in my case. You can send an e-mail to MV asking them to confirm they have received your documents.

Posted by: Hellohellosweden 19.Jul.2016, 11:54 AM

Hello everyone
Today I called MV office to ask if they have assigned a case officer to my case
and he said that he can see that someone has looked on my case but can't say or
confirm that if that person is a case officer or not as that person is on vacation.
What does that suppose to mean do I have a case officer or not?
Has anyone experienced that before?

Posted by: JohnCera 19.Jul.2016, 12:15 PM

QUOTE (Hellohellosweden @ 19.Jul.2016, 12:54 PM) *
What does that suppose to mean do I have a case officer or not?



Hard to know! When did you apply?

Posted by: Hellohellosweden 19.Jul.2016, 02:35 PM

Last month

Posted by: JohnCera 19.Jul.2016, 09:18 PM

QUOTE (Hellohellosweden @ 19.Jul.2016, 03:35 PM) *
Last month


Some lucky people get a decision in a month. Hope u will be one of them smile.gif

Posted by: lappisseller 20.Jul.2016, 02:21 PM

Hello all,
Sorry for posting here, I could not start new topic for unknown reason.

I need translation expertise for the following sentences from swedish law on citizenship.

10 § Om en utlänning blir svensk medborgare enligt 6, 7, 8 eller 9 §, förvärvar även hans eller hennes ogifta barn som
har hemvist här i landet och inte har fyllt arton år svenskt
medborgarskap om utlänningen
1. ensam har vårdnaden om barnet, eller
2. har vårdnaden gemensamt med den andra föräldern och han
eller hon är svensk medborgare.

Blir föräldrarna till ett ogift barn som har hemvist här i
landet och som inte har fyllt arton år samtidigt svenska
medborgare enligt 6, 7, 8 eller 9 §, förvärvar även barnet
svenskt medborgarskap om han eller hon står under bådas
vårdnad. Lag (2014:481).

and

13 § I ett beslut om naturalisation skall det bestämmas om även
sökandens ogifta barn som är under arton år förvärvar svenskt
medborgarskap.

Posted by: thenonlocal 20.Jul.2016, 08:13 PM

There's a translation of the full law (SFS 2001:82) here:

http://eudo-citizenship.eu/admin/?p=file&appl=currentCitizenshipLaws&f=SWE%202001%2082%20(as%20of%202006%2C%20English).pdf

Posted by: Hellohellosweden 25.Jul.2016, 01:59 PM

Hello everyone
I want to know does the letter from immigration about decision comes
Home or the post office?

Posted by: JohnCera 25.Jul.2016, 02:19 PM

QUOTE (Hellohellosweden @ 25.Jul.2016, 02:59 PM) *
Hello everyone
I want to know does the letter from immigration about decision comes
Home or the post office?


From what I heard they send the decision letter home and the citizenship certificate by registered mail. Somebody else may confirm.

Any decision yet? you can check that online with your case number.

Posted by: Hellohellosweden 25.Jul.2016, 02:42 PM

Hello
Web site says no decision made but I have recieved a letter form postnord
That they have a letter for me from immigration.
Don't know what to expect.

Posted by: JohnCera 25.Jul.2016, 02:50 PM

QUOTE (Hellohellosweden @ 25.Jul.2016, 03:42 PM) *
Hello
Web site says no decision made but I have recieved a letter form postnord
That they have a letter for me from immigration.
Don't know what to expect.


May be they need more information?. It could also be a decision together with the certificate, but the application status has not been updated yet in the system. You better check the letter and see.

Posted by: HiSweden 25.Jul.2016, 04:19 PM

QUOTE (Hellohellosweden @ 25.Jul.2016, 01:42 PM) *
Hello
Web site says no decision made but I have recieved a letter form postnord
That they have a letter for me from immigration.
Don't know what to expect.



Since you applied last month I would expect them to ask for more information or maybe it is your passport (in case you asked to get it back). Keeping my fingers crossed and please let us know!

Posted by: JohnCera 30.Jul.2016, 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Hellohellosweden @ 25.Jul.2016, 03:42 PM) *
Hello
Web site says no decision made but I have recieved a letter form postnord
That they have a letter for me from immigration.
Don't know what to expect.



So, you got a decision?

Posted by: thomuk2006 31.Jul.2016, 09:53 AM

Would also like to know! Sent my passport on Saturday... they asked for it back after 15 months and some extra papers.. wifes wage, rent etc...

Posted by: JohnCera 4.Aug.2016, 09:08 PM

QUOTE (thomuk2006 @ 31.Jul.2016, 10:53 AM) *
Would also like to know! Sent my passport on Saturday... they asked for it back after 15 months and some extra papers.. wifes wage, rent etc...



Any decision yet?

Posted by: humblelove001 8.Aug.2016, 05:22 PM

I applied for citizenship 4days ago and after printing out the application,i noticed that i made a silly mistake by not answering if i were the one that applied and recieve my home country passport,i did put it in writing afterwards that i forgot to click on that question,hopefully it won't be a problem.

3years sambo with a child involved,finger crossed.

Posted by: dr_MadGeek 9.Aug.2016, 11:30 AM

QUOTE (humblelove001 @ 8.Aug.2016, 06:22 PM) *
I applied for citizenship 4days ago and after printing out the application,i noticed that i made a silly mistake by not answering if i were the one that applied and recieve my home country passport,i did put it in writing afterwards that i forgot to click on that question,hopefully it won't be a problem.

3years sambo with a child involved,finger crossed.


You can just mention it on a separate page and ask them to include the information to your application when you send your passport and printed application. Do not forget to include your control number whenever you want to get some document added to your application.

Posted by: humblelove001 9.Aug.2016, 09:56 PM

QUOTE (dr_MadGeek @ 9.Aug.2016, 11:30 AM) *
You can just mention it on a separate page and ask them to include the information to your application when you send your passport and printed application. Do not forget to include your control number whenever you want to get some document added to your application.


Thanks for your concern,yes i did wrote in the printed out form that i forgot to add that online,now the waiting game begins

Posted by: kusben 9.Aug.2016, 10:41 PM

there is no need to worry about that because there is no answered option ( whether to chose yes/no) for that question.
So, it suppose to remain unanswered.

Posted by: JohnCera 11.Aug.2016, 06:40 PM

..

Posted by: JohnCera 11.Aug.2016, 06:40 PM

..

Posted by: JohnCera 11.Aug.2016, 06:41 PM

The waiting time has now been increased to 18 months rolleyes.gif

Posted by: the_dome 11.Aug.2016, 07:12 PM

QUOTE (JohnCera @ 11.Aug.2016, 07:41 PM) *
The waiting time has now been increased to 18 months rolleyes.gif


That is minimum

Posted by: HiSweden 12.Aug.2016, 12:34 PM

QUOTE (JohnCera @ 11.Aug.2016, 05:41 PM) *
The waiting time has now been increased to 18 months rolleyes.gif



So weird. Let us see in 2 months when everyone is back from holidays. It seems that MV is increasing the waiting times for everyone regardless what are you applying for. (tourist visa is the only exception)

Posted by: thomuk2006 12.Aug.2016, 03:44 PM

Ok just got back from the post office... and I'm Swedish!!!! Took 16 months... Woooo feeling like listening to Abba all of a sudden...

Posted by: JohnCera 12.Aug.2016, 05:34 PM

QUOTE (thomuk2006 @ 12.Aug.2016, 04:44 PM) *
Ok just got back from the post office... and I'm Swedish!!!! Took 16 months... Woooo feeling like listening to Abba all of a sudden...


Congratulations!

Posted by: thomuk2006 15.Aug.2016, 09:37 AM

QUOTE (JohnCera @ 12.Aug.2016, 06:34 PM) *
Congratulations!


Tack! Anyone know how long it takes to get registered with skatteverket??? I guess I can't apply for a passport until it's registered there...

Posted by: Dedee 15.Aug.2016, 11:48 AM

I went to the police the next day, they didn't find me in the system but they made a copy of the certificate and that was that. :-) No need to wait.

Posted by: Castor 20.Aug.2016, 04:07 PM

Hi,
I have a question, I will be eligible to apply for citizenship in January 2018 after 8 years being in Sweden, Student+work permit. My question is since the waiting time now is 16-18 months. Shall I apply around 13-14 months in advance? As I understood from cases in Domstol, they have to count the years from the day they decide about the case. Is it possible that they reject me, like 2 months after I apply? Or they definitely put me in the long queue, which is good for me since I will be eligible till they consider my application!

Thanks,

Posted by: kaysweet 20.Aug.2016, 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Castor @ 20.Aug.2016, 03:07 PM) *
Hi,
I have a question, I will be eligible to apply for citizenship in January 2018 after 8 years being in Sweden, Student+work permit. My question is since the waiting time now is 16-18 months. Shall I apply around 13-14 months in advance? As I understood from cases in Domstol, they have to count the years from the day they decide about the case. Is it possible that they reject me, like 2 months after I apply? Or they definitely put me in the long queue, which is good for me since I will be eligible till they consider my application!

Thanks,


From observation, I think they will reject your application because it is usually sorted and analyzed after submission. So if you have not met the criteria by the time you made the submission, then they is every chance it will be rejected -which leaves you with not chance to win it even if you appeal against the rejection.

But if you don't mind parting with the fees after being rejected, then you can give it a try. With that, you have nothing to lose but everything to gain ,if it works out for you.

Posted by: JohnCera 21.Aug.2016, 10:47 AM

QUOTE (Castor @ 20.Aug.2016, 05:07 PM) *
Hi,
I have a question, I will be eligible to apply for citizenship in January 2018 after 8 years being in Sweden, Student+work permit. My question is since the waiting time now is 16-18 months. Shall I apply around 13-14 months in advance? As I understood from cases in Domstol, they have to count the years from the day they decide about the case. Is it possible that they reject me, like 2 months after I apply? Or they definitely put me in the long queue, which is good for me since I will be eligible till they consider my application!

Thanks,


You can give it a try, at least someone (hsynkrhsn) tried it before and it worked.

http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=84661&st=0

Posted by: HiSweden 24.Aug.2016, 03:27 PM

QUOTE (Castor @ 20.Aug.2016, 03:07 PM) *
Hi,
I have a question, I will be eligible to apply for citizenship in January 2018 after 8 years being in Sweden, Student+work permit. My question is since the waiting time now is 16-18 months. Shall I apply around 13-14 months in advance? As I understood from cases in Domstol, they have to count the years from the day they decide about the case. Is it possible that they reject me, like 2 months after I apply? Or they definitely put me in the long queue, which is good for me since I will be eligible till they consider my application!

Thanks,



13-14 months is too much, don't risk it. Lots of things might change in 13 months!

Posted by: bunny_s 29.Aug.2016, 04:12 PM

QUOTE (moizhaad @ 22.May.2016, 01:33 PM) *
Date of application: 10 July 2015
Time spent in Sweden: from 10 July 2010
Date of decision (if made): not yet
Country of origin: Asia
4 Years WP + 1 Year PR

I call to MV a few days ago . answer was you still have to wait. how long they don't know .i don't know which kind of investigation they are doing which is taking so long . if they investigate from other Swedish agencies they can get all information in a few days not a few years.
but what i think may be they investigate from home country and other countries where ever person been stay in past with the help of Swedish embassy .
if any body have any information about it then please share with us here smile.gif Thanks


Did you get the letter from MV asking for your passport?

Posted by: moizhaad 31.Aug.2016, 04:23 PM

No not yet mellow.gif

Posted by: Hisingen 31.Aug.2016, 09:10 PM

There were these two immigrants from Xyland living in Sweden next door to each other as good friends for several years. Then one day, one of them decides to take out Swedish citizenship.
On the day his papers come through his letterbox, pronouncing him a Swede, he takes a big drink to celebrate, before going out and knocking on his neighbour’s door.
Opening the door, his neighbour showed pleasure at the caller being his friend. The smile was soon wiped off his face when his friend greeted him with “Jäävla uuutlänning.” - - - - - - .

Posted by: Case officer 1.Sep.2016, 09:29 PM

QUOTE (thomuk2006 @ 12.Aug.2016, 04:44 PM) *
Ok just got back from the post office... and I'm Swedish!!!! Took 16 months... Woooo feeling like listening to Abba all of a sudden...


In Swedish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZfh2IJHVmk

In English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgSt3pSkup4

Posted by: HiSweden 15.Sep.2016, 09:40 PM

All the information needed is included in the application: 2-7 months. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: JohnCera 17.Sep.2016, 10:13 AM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 15.Sep.2016, 10:40 PM) *
All the information needed is included in the application: 2-7 months. rolleyes.gif



So it is slowly heading toward 18 months smile.gif.

Posted by: the_dome 17.Sep.2016, 10:29 AM

Do you guys anyone who waited 6-7 months to get their citizenship? And that it's from 3rd world country

Posted by: Scottish 22.Sep.2016, 11:36 AM

is there anyone here with new update concern his/her citizenship application? Even though it is stated that it take 16 to 18 months, i strongly feel situation should get better with early resolution to citizenship application. It will be great to read that from anyone here still on the queue or who already got a case office assigned to his/her application.

Posted by: Sabzeena 22.Sep.2016, 07:12 PM

Hello everyone
Does anyone know,how long it takes to get a decision
when case officer is assigned to you?
Thanks in advance

Posted by: Sabzeena 22.Sep.2016, 07:56 PM

The question is in general for different type of
visas not just citizenship

Posted by: LLHope 23.Sep.2016, 09:41 AM

Hope all of you that are in a rush for your Swedish citizenship also understand that you may be called up for military service once it is re-introduced wink.gif ...it seems pretty clear that it will be within the next few years.

Posted by: Hisingen 23.Sep.2016, 09:34 PM

Attention!!
Left turn!
Quick march!
Left. right. Left. Rght. Left.

Halt!

How does the prosepct of doing military service strike you all??

laugh.gif

Out of the frying pan - - - - -

Posted by: HiSweden 29.Sep.2016, 04:28 PM

The waiting times are still increasing ..

Application for Swedish citizenship

All the information needed is included in the application: 3-8 months.
The Swedish Migration Agency has to investigate the application: 16-19 months.

Posted by: bunny_s 30.Sep.2016, 09:55 AM

Anyone from end of June or beginning of July 2015 who have been asked for their passports?

Posted by: lelu 30.Sep.2016, 03:57 PM

Hi,

In case you apply some time before you fill the 5 years and by a crazy chance they immediately check the application and of course get rejected, apart from loosing the fee is there any other problem? Mostly I am asking if then you have to wait some time before you can re-apply.

Posted by: JohnCera 1.Oct.2016, 10:15 AM

QUOTE (bunny_s @ 30.Sep.2016, 10:55 AM) *
Anyone from end of June or beginning of July 2015 who have been asked for their passports?


Got a decision last week after approx. 14 months waiting time.

Posted by: bunny_s 3.Oct.2016, 01:36 PM

QUOTE (moizhaad @ 31.Aug.2016, 05:23 PM) *
No not yet mellow.gif


Did you also get a decision?

Posted by: moizhaad 3.Oct.2016, 04:18 PM

No mellow.gif and you?

Posted by: bunny_s 4.Oct.2016, 10:01 AM

QUOTE (moizhaad @ 3.Oct.2016, 05:18 PM) *
No mellow.gif and you?


Not for me as well. But one other person in this chain who applied on 1st August 2015 got decision last week. So it seems to be random still.

Posted by: bunny_s 6.Oct.2016, 08:25 AM

QUOTE (JohnCera @ 1.Oct.2016, 11:15 AM) *
Got a decision last week after approx. 14 months waiting time.



When did they ask for your passport? Was it also last week?

Posted by: Scottish 6.Oct.2016, 08:00 PM

And the time keeps increasing:

Application for Swedish citizenship
All the information needed is included in the application: 2-7 months.
The Swedish Migration Agency has to investigate the application: 17-19 months.
Notification for Swedish citizenship
Time to a decision: 3-4 months.

Posted by: Ravn 17.Oct.2016, 03:19 PM

Application date: April 22nd, 2015.
Decision made: August 29th, 2016.
Waiting time: 16 months and 7 days

Posted by: JohnCera 17.Oct.2016, 05:51 PM

QUOTE (bunny_s @ 6.Oct.2016, 09:25 AM) *
When did they ask for your passport? Was it also last week?


Beginning of September.

Posted by: MissMurray 18.Oct.2016, 07:21 AM

I think I was lucky with my application.
Applied: July 8th 2016
Decision: September 8th 2016;

I'd been in Sweden for 3 years when I applied while having a permanent sambo visa.

Posted by: lelu 19.Oct.2016, 10:34 AM

Hi,

When you apply for citizenship, it says that if you have travelled more than 6 weeks per year, the time is removed from you time in Sweden. Of course in this case you need to mention it in the application. In case you traveled in one year less than 6 weeks (for example 2 weeks) do you still need to add this information in the application or only for the years you have travelled more than 6 weeks/year?

Thanks a lot!

Posted by: MissMurray 19.Oct.2016, 10:36 AM

No, it's only if you've been away longer than 6 weeks. They count on people going away on vacation or meeting their families smile.gif

Posted by: lelu 19.Oct.2016, 12:05 PM

thanks! smile.gif

Posted by: lelu 31.Oct.2016, 09:18 PM

I applied for nationality and already send the printed documents and passport. When logging in, in the link at MV website, I can find my application and when was registered and of course that it is pending decision. I cannot find any other information (like documents submitted or if there is a case officer - of course there is not yet). Where can you find more information about your case? is it there and it is just because its too early that has no information for my case at all?

Posted by: MissMurray 1.Nov.2016, 03:02 PM

Unfortunately you will not be able to see anything more than that. You're supposed to see when they received the application and what's the decision status (even when a decision is made you can't see if it's positive or negative).

Posted by: dr_MadGeek 1.Nov.2016, 03:52 PM

QUOTE (bunny_s @ 4.Oct.2016, 10:01 AM) *
Not for me as well. But one other person in this chain who applied on 1st August 2015 got decision last week. So it seems to be random still.


Yes it is completely random. A friend applied exactly after 5 years from the time he received his first work permit and received decision within 15 days. Whereas, one of his colleagues with same details and nationality is waiting for last 11 months. I also applied 6 months ago and there is no news as yet. Details of my friend below:

Date applied: 2016-10-05
Decision on citizenship: 2016-10-19
Nationality: Pakistani
Basis: Work permit since 2011-10-04 and PUT for last 10 months

Posted by: Sabzeena 1.Nov.2016, 05:28 PM

Hello everyone
Does any body have any idea that which MV office or department in any city is good for you to have you case?

Posted by: gardiann 2.Nov.2016, 06:57 AM

Hi.

I would like to share my expeirence with Swedish citizenship application process .

Arrived on 2012 with 2 year residence card
2014 I was giving the full residence (took 5 days to get a decision)
Applied for citizenship : on 5 April 2015 based on Sambo
Decision made on 25 October 2016. (approved )


As you can see it took a long time to get a decision. However, its important that we understand how the system works at leastbased on my personal experience the following events occurred:


1) applied through online ( My application was registered on 9 April 2015.)

2) I never called never asked anything or even bothered until on July 2016 I have received
a letter that a case officer is appointed and that they need an explanation of my travels.

3) I responded with all details requested. send extra docs requested by them.

4) On September 12 I have received another letter from my case officer that they needs my passport back and that a
decision would be made on my case. I did send it within 10 days . on 25 October I have received my passport
along with Swedish citizenship certificate.

Key factors :

1) As part of my work I was always traveling thus one issue was that I have exceeded the 6 week vacation time
limit . My company provided a letter that all travels were work related.

2) The processing time is depending on queue system which will pop up your application,
MV will then appoint a case officer.

3) Its important that you have a clean record as they will need to get your record from all agencies such police,
Security services (aka säpo) Kronofogden, Skatverket. all this agencies needs to send your record, sometimes
it might take time for them to respond.

4) Good conduct mainly evaluate by your ability to work and adopt to the system. Skatverket is where they can see that.

5) Language is not a must but my case officer sent me an email and requested that they need to talk to me. I call back
and started the conversation in English, they insisted that I speak in Swedish. Which I did eventually. they told me its
not requested by law but its an important factor. I have feeling that this become a requirement.

Recommendation :

1) Apply once you fulfilled all eligibility criteria .
2) Make sure that your application is registered online (it means you are in queue ) U can see that at MV web.
3) Regardless of how we need our application to be approved its important that you move on and just wait,
in really nothing you can do about the processing time, and frustation is not helping so just relax and wait ...wait...
4) If they asked to mention all your trips outside of Sweden, do exactly that, do not hide anything, they will get that information
from the Police also from EU control border data. (be straight you can't hide nothing)

5) Useful explanation to justify travels outside of Sweden. like in my case, is to request your company to provide a support letter

Finally, even though luck is always there, but MV is pretty straight forward if they realized that you are eligible and
fulfilled time requirement and have clean record with sounding good conduct. you will get a positive decision!

I hope this would help easy the pain of waiting and the uncertainty .. it was useful for me to read other people's expeirence
good luck for all.

Posted by: Ravn 2.Nov.2016, 03:42 PM

Just a short clarification on "EU border control data" you mentioned...

1) No internal passport checks in EU. In other words, you can stay in Norway, France, Germany, whatever, over 6 weeks, and there is no option to find it out, unless you yourself tell it to the authorities.
2) SIS II system contains information only in form of alarms. Say, on persons missing, documents and vehicles stolen, etc.
3) VIS (part of SIS II) system - contains only information on short-term visas, visa holder fingerprints etc. Information on national EU member countries' resident permits (long term visas) is not stored there.
4) EURODAC contains only information in form of fingerprints, but only for persons seeking for asylum, awaiting for deportation, or being sought after. Fingerprints stored for max 2 years and to be deleted either after 2 yrs., or as soon as a person leaves EU.

The only source of information for authorities on your travels outside the EU, is solely your national pasport with in and out stamps. Period. That's why authorities ask for "even your outdated passports if you have them", and a full story "when, why, and for how long you visited your home country to get your passport, if you got it after coming to Sweden for the first time". Remember this in your application???

In 2017 due to terrorism concerns, there will be implemented a new database on all airline passengers travelling to and from EU by air. It is however not operational as of today.

Posted by: Sabzeena 3.Nov.2016, 01:22 PM

Hello everyone
Does every body gets a case assistant when you send your application to MV?
That means that before you have a case officer,you have a case assistant.
Does any body has gone through this or have any information regarding
this?
Your feedback is of great importance

Posted by: hatim 3.Nov.2016, 01:46 PM

QUOTE (Sabzeena @ 3.Nov.2016, 01:22 PM) *
Hello everyone
Does every body gets a case assistant when you send your application to MV?
That means that before you have a case officer,you have a case assistant.
Does any body has gone through this or have any information regarding
this?
Your feedback is of great importance


I can not be certain about citizenship process, but this is the procedure they did for my PR application. MV has hired many new employees who check the documents and follow up on cases (but don't have the legal authority to make decisions).

Posted by: Sabzeena 3.Nov.2016, 02:01 PM

@hatim
Thank for the information
Does having a case assistant on your means that they are working on your case?And do you have any idea how long it gets to take a decision after you have a case assistant working on the cases?

Posted by: Ravn 3.Nov.2016, 02:18 PM

I am not that good on Swedish bureaucracy, but I know how it works in Denmark and Norway (Udlændingestyrelsen and UDI). There is always first assigned an "assessor" to a case, who looks at the application, considers if there is all relevant documentation attached, and who contacts you if something is missing. Then there is a person nr.2, who is called a "controller", who just controls a quality of assessor's work, and reviews a case once again, including all documents and facts. And who may contact you as well for some extra docs and clarifications. Those two put their signature in the internal case profile with a summary: status ok, or "denial based on...". The third person "decision maker", just makes a decision on the case, registers it in the database, and writes a formal letter + certificate to you.

The system is built this way to avoid any direct contact between you as an aplicant and a decision maker. So that you even do not know who signs and stamps your case.

I assume it works the same way in Sweden. With the exception of the missing direct ban on the contact between the applicant, and the decision maker.

You can as well read it on MIG website, that all applications are being "reviewed" short time after they are being registered. If some criteria are not met, you get your application turned down immediately. And I think it is exactly on this stage, that they make a decision to give an application "decision time frame": either 2-4 months, or 17-19 months as for the moment.

Posted by: Sabzeena 3.Nov.2016, 04:03 PM

Thank you so much for the information

Posted by: Ravn 9.Nov.2016, 05:07 PM

MIG has made a prognosis update.

Pay attention to page 64, bottom, especially number in "utgående balans" row:
http://www.migrationsverket.se/download/18.2d998ffc151ac38715917594/1477389437052/Migrationsverkets+prognos+oktober+2016.pdf

Out of these numbers it seems we will reach 24 months waiting time by December, 2017. And only thereafter will quickly and dramatically go down in handling times.

Posted by: HiSweden 11.Nov.2016, 06:07 PM

QUOTE (Ravn @ 9.Nov.2016, 04:07 PM) *
MIG has made a prognosis update.

Pay attention to page 64, bottom, especially number in "utgående balans" row:
http://www.migrationsverket.se/download/18.2d998ffc151ac38715917594/1477389437052/Migrationsverkets+prognos+oktober+2016.pdf

Out of these numbers it seems we will reach 24 months waiting time by December, 2017. And only thereafter will quickly and dramatically go down in handling times.



24 months waiting time for what? citizenship applications?

Posted by: Martian 13.Nov.2016, 01:17 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 11.Nov.2016, 06:07 PM) *
24 months waiting time for what? citizenship applications?


It's already 19 months so I don't think adding additional 5 months to it is a big deal tongue.gif

Posted by: Tarndarnya 13.Nov.2016, 03:05 PM

Date of application: 1 NOV 2016
Time spent in Sweden: 4 Years
Date of decision (if made): Who knows when blink.gif
Country of origin: The Earth

and also, on what bases you applied? Permanent Residency on Refugee Status

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any experience with refugee, stateless and humanitarian PR applying for Citizenship? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Tarndarnya 13.Nov.2016, 03:11 PM

QUOTE (Martian @ 13.Nov.2016, 01:17 PM) *
It's already 19 months so I don't think adding additional 5 months to it is a big deal tongue.gif


Martian, you been waiting for 19 months...
I do hope that you get the decision fairly soon mate!

Do you have handling officer for your application, if so, have you tried to contact them directly, not on MIG Customer Service line, which btw I think they only know what information already available on the website, or even it seems that the Customer Service Line know less/inaccurate infos we could find on their website.

Posted by: Tarndarnya 13.Nov.2016, 03:27 PM

QUOTE (Ravn @ 9.Nov.2016, 05:07 PM) *
MIG has made a prognosis update.

Pay attention to page 64, bottom, especially number in "utgående balans" row:
http://www.migrationsverket.se/download/18.2d998ffc151ac38715917594/1477389437052/Migrationsverkets+prognos+oktober+2016.pdf

Out of these numbers it seems we will reach 24 months waiting time by December, 2017. And only thereafter will quickly and dramatically go down in handling times.




I see their are three different ques and MIG customer service cannot provide information which place in the these three tiers of ques, and where in the ques case is been processed now. angry.gif

Ravn, Is there any public statistic figure of which one of three tiers citizenship applications ended up?

I don't know if they are now allowed to tell this to their client or MIG Customer Service Line just does not have capable system to verify this...

Posted by: Ravn 14.Nov.2016, 08:14 AM

You are right, we had A, B and C options before 2016. Now we have only A or C paths. They just forgot to change the diagram in january 2016.

There is no pattern whether the person will be assigned 2-6 months (A), or 17-19 ©.
It is a lottery at its best, and a discrimination at its worst.

So either you will get your decision very soon indeed, or if it doesn't come first 2-4 months after you applied, prepare to wait like 24 months or so :/

Some trustful source of mine told me that roughly 22-25% of applicants get fast-trek decisions, while 73-75% have to take the pain and wait all the way...

Posted by: Tarndarnya 14.Nov.2016, 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Ravn @ 14.Nov.2016, 08:14 AM) *
Some trustful source of mine told me that roughly 22-25% of applicants get fast-trek decisions, while 73-75% have to take the pain and wait all the way...


20 ish percentage is quite a fair amount of applications end up in fast track A, Do you know from your trusted source, which condition applies to those applications on fast track?

Reading from Internet forums, that seems all application with Swedish relation, sambo, partnership and marriage etc looks like it gets faster decision than, independent migrants applying for the citizenship.

Which is bit odd to Swedish society that I know that politics and culture promote and focus much on being independent, free from dependent relationship...

BTW, SVT showed interesting documentary on this Swedish culture of being independent.
http://www.svtplay.se/video/10458343/the-swedish-theory-of-love/dox-the-swedish-theory-of-love-avsnitt-1

Posted by: hatim 14.Nov.2016, 06:08 PM

QUOTE (Tarndarnya @ 14.Nov.2016, 01:51 PM) *
20 ish percentage is quite a fair amount of applications end up in fast track A, Do you know from your trusted source, which condition applies to those applications on fast track?

Reading from Internet forums, that seems all application with Swedish relation, sambo, partnership and marriage etc looks like it gets faster decision than, independent migrants applying for the citizenship.

Which is bit odd to Swedish society that I know that politics and culture promote and focus much on being independent, free from dependent relationship...

BTW, SVT showed interesting documentary on this Swedish culture of being independent.
http://www.svtplay.se/video/10458343/the-swedish-theory-of-love/dox-the-swedish-theory-of-love-avsnitt-1

This is as per my understanding: If you have a child with some one, who is Swedish citizen, then your case becomes stronger (by many times) when it comes to Swedish citizenship. It is to protect the child and to ensure that both their parents can contribute in his/her upbringing. So it is not _unfair_ or _odd_ in some sense.

Posted by: Ravn 15.Nov.2016, 08:27 AM

Out of my experience, they are just taking wild shots. People who never had jobs, do not speak Swedish still, are not married to Swedes get decisions in a couple of weeks. People paying high taxes, having jobs from day one, children, speaking fluent language, and married to Swedes wait all the way down, up to 1,5 years.

Some time ago (2012-2015) the only observation was: if quick first time Temporary RP, then long waiting time for Permanent RP, and quick decisision on citizenship. And vice versa: long - short - long. But this does not apply any more.

Posted by: hatim 15.Nov.2016, 01:29 PM

QUOTE (Ravn @ 15.Nov.2016, 08:27 AM) *
Out of my experience, they are just taking wild shots. People who never had jobs, do not speak Swedish still, are not married to Swedes get decisions in a couple of weeks. People paying high taxes, having jobs from day one, children, speaking fluent language, and married to Swedes wait all the way down, up to 1,5 years.

Some time ago (2012-2015) the only observation was: if quick first time Temporary RP, then long waiting time for Permanent RP, and quick decisision on citizenship. And vice versa: long - short - long. But this does not apply any more.

This is all talk and no proof. How can you be so sure about other people's conditions?. How can it be your experience if you are not the one who applied and got citizenship in very short time?

Are you suggesting that MV is actively giving away citizenship to people who don't qualify for time and other criteria?.

Don't echo right wing media non sense unless you have proof. Citizenship is not a right (unless you are born here) it is a privilege.

Posted by: Tarndarnya 15.Nov.2016, 04:26 PM

QUOTE (hatim @ 14.Nov.2016, 06:08 PM) *
This is as per my understanding: If you have a child with some one, who is Swedish citizen, then your case becomes stronger (by many times) when it comes to Swedish citizenship. It is to protect the child and to ensure that both their parents can contribute in his/her upbringing. So it is not _unfair_ or _odd_ in some sense.


I think it is also very good that one who has got child with a Swedish Citizen to get citizenship easy, but at the same time, in my *notion (*without research or static figure proofs) Swedish society seems to promote to be independent, free from dependent relationship, including parents and children's relation.

Than so weighing on importance of being citizen by having dependent relationships of any kind, parents and children, marriage, sambo, partnership etc, is contradictory to social culture that Sweden promote that of being and living life independently. This was what I found to be rather odd. I reckon that there should not be an advantage of investigation to be citizen for being dependent to a Swedish citizen. It rather should be even and equal for both dependent and independent migrations for their Swedish citizenship application, in Swedish society.

But It is what I think... smile.gif

Posted by: hatim 15.Nov.2016, 08:15 PM

QUOTE (Tarndarnya @ 15.Nov.2016, 04:26 PM) *
I think it is also very good that one who has got child with a Swedish Citizen to get citizenship easy, but at the same time, in my *notion (*without research or static figure proofs) Swedish society seems to promote to be independent, free from dependent relationship, including parents and children's relation.

Than so weighing on importance of being citizen by having dependent relationships of any kind, parents and children, marriage, sambo, partnership etc, is contradictory to social culture that Sweden promote that of being and living life independently. This was what I found to be rather odd. I reckon that there should not be an advantage of investigation to be citizen for being dependent to a Swedish citizen. It rather should be even and equal for both dependent and independent migrations for their Swedish citizenship application, in Swedish society.

But It is what I think... smile.gif

We are talking about citizenship, not a club membership. Not every one who has the same values as Swedes do is qualified to become a "member".

And why should a child or a relative have to wait same or more amount than some one who has lesser physical/family connection to Sweden?. We are not talking about jobs and university admissions. Citizenship is also acquired by birth so you can not apply some sort of merit ranking to it in all cases.

I find your line of argument in error. You and I are entitled to our opinions. It is good that none of our opinions matter directly and it is the land of the law that prevails. If the people deem it necessary they would pave the way to change of laws through due process.

Posted by: vosovicd 18.Nov.2016, 08:17 PM

Sorry if this has already been addressed but what is "Notification for Swedish citizenship"? And why does it require 3 - 4 months?!

Posted by: bunny_s 28.Nov.2016, 09:31 AM

QUOTE (moizhaad @ 22.May.2016, 12:33 PM) *
Date of application: 10 July 2015
Time spent in Sweden: from 10 July 2010
Date of decision (if made): not yet
Country of origin: Asia
4 Years WP + 1 Year PR

I call to MV a few days ago . answer was you still have to wait. how long they don't know .i don't know which kind of investigation they are doing which is taking so long . if they investigate from other Swedish agencies they can get all information in a few days not a few years.
but what i think may be they investigate from home country and other countries where ever person been stay in past with the help of Swedish embassy .
if any body have any information about it then please share with us here smile.gif Thanks



Did they ask for your passport yet? Hasn't happened for me yet. But someone who applied around 1st week of july has been asked for passport last week.

Posted by: Scottish 28.Nov.2016, 01:07 PM

@bunny_s, when did you apply?

Posted by: Sabzeena 28.Nov.2016, 03:25 PM

@bunny
The one who has Been asked for passport has applied in July 2015?

Posted by: bunny_s 29.Nov.2016, 10:35 AM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 28.Nov.2016, 01:07 PM) *
@bunny_s, when did you apply?


July 2015

Posted by: bunny_s 29.Nov.2016, 10:35 AM

QUOTE (Sabzeena @ 28.Nov.2016, 03:25 PM) *
@bunny
The one who has Been asked for passport has applied in July 2015?


Yes

Posted by: Scottish 29.Nov.2016, 11:56 AM

So @ bunny_s, it looks very visible that you are closer to it than when you first started out with it. Please update us in this group on its development...I hope its gets to the November applicants soonest.

Posted by: moizhaad 1.Dec.2016, 04:48 PM

QUOTE (bunny_s @ 28.Nov.2016, 09:31 AM) *
Did they ask for your passport yet? Hasn't happened for me yet. But someone who applied around 1st week of july has been asked for passport last week.


Hi yes they ask for passport last week .i already send them my passport but till now i have not get any answer i don't know how long they gonna take .
and what about you ?did they ask you for passport?

Posted by: HiSweden 13.Dec.2016, 04:34 PM

The waiting time is not going down at all, plus christmas and new years are coming, so it will get slower.

Posted by: Ravn 15.Dec.2016, 07:46 AM

For Sabzeena:

I now found how this works. Here is the link (in Swedish) dated year 2005, but "how it works" remains mostly the same. Much recommended to read for everybody who is applying for citizenship to understand in general how it works on the other side:

https://books.google.se/books?id=SU76hxKUGDMC&pg=PA109&lpg=PA109&dq=handlaggare+medborgarskapsenheten&source=bl&ots=h-JR-mFj_S&sig=Il420LmMflfxP0nyPxuxRtxVE-E&hl=da&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipuYzF0vDQAhXHkywKHVrLAho4ChDoAQgdMAI#v=onepage&q=handlaggare%20medborgarskapsenheten&f=false

In general, 80% of decisions are "single person decisions". While 20% of cases are considered complicated and are handled by case assistant and decision maker in cooperation.

Posted by: Sabzeena 15.Dec.2016, 08:24 PM

At ravn
Thank you so much for Sharing this smile.gif

Posted by: HiSweden 3.Jan.2017, 04:37 PM

QUOTE (moizhaad @ 1.Dec.2016, 03:48 PM) *
Hi yes they ask for passport last week .i already send them my passport but till now i have not get any answer i don't know how long they gonna take .
and what about you ?did they ask you for passport?



Any decision yet?

Posted by: bunny_s 12.Jan.2017, 09:08 AM

Finally got a positive decision after waiting for 16 months. Applied in 2nd week of August 2015. Good luck to other waiting for a decision.

Posted by: Scottish 12.Jan.2017, 10:46 AM

@bunny_s, at what month in your waiting period did they ask for you passport back or did you know that you had a case officer assigned to your case?

Posted by: humblelove001 13.Jan.2017, 04:24 PM

Do you get notification by mail or e-mail when asking for passport back?

Posted by: Scottish 13.Jan.2017, 05:10 PM

I think the notification is usually by post. But let's hear what others have to say concerning this.

Posted by: Ravn 13.Jan.2017, 06:10 PM

They usually send a letter by usual post which is called "Komplettering". Where they ask you for a) passport, b ) list of your trips outside the country since you applied. There could be however c), d), e) etc depending on your circumstances - paychecks, letter from school, rent...

And you have only 2 weeks to do what they ask. Otherwise "we will make a decision based on information available, which can result in your application being turned down".

Taking into consideration how Post Nord sometimes works, it makes sense to contact MV every 2-3 weeks to get an update on your case status, especially if you are waiting over 14-15 months

Posted by: myusername 15.Jan.2017, 09:24 PM

Date of application: 11.01.2016
Time spent in Sweden: 5 years (4 WP +1 PUT)
Date of decision (if made):
Country of origin:

After reading this thread, I find myself very confused: MV's web-site says that "simple" application take 1-4 months, but it seems that majority of you had to wait 12+ months.

What is more accurate estimate time: 4 or 14 months?

Posted by: Scottish 16.Jan.2017, 09:33 AM

@myusername, warm welcome to the waiting club. From all observation, it's based on luck or so kind of lottery. You may get a quick one or you may have to wait for another 16 to 19 months, with or without complete documents.

Either way you find yourself, you can always check this page to get some form of comfort even a long waiting time.

Posted by: efigenio 17.Jan.2017, 08:27 AM

Case registered: 2016-07-06
Years in Sweden: 5 (3TUT - 2PUT)
Status of your application: Decision pending

My application is complete, I'm sure because I'm really "noggrann"... but still it's taking more than 6 months now :S

Posted by: ingen 17.Jan.2017, 09:28 AM

I think I was lucky with my application for citizenship
Applied: 29th October 2016
Decision: 9th December 2016
Sambo/Married and living in Sweden for more than three years and given permanent uppehålltillstånd Sept 2016.
But I did have a 16 month wait for my first uppehålltillstånd 3+ years ago.

Posted by: Scottish 19.Jan.2017, 01:29 PM

Do we know the month/year group that MV is currently attending to at the moment? Or has anyone been asked to return his/her passport latelY?

Posted by: Hisingen 19.Jan.2017, 04:40 PM

Too many wannabee Swedes from undefined countries.

Posted by: Scottish 25.Jan.2017, 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Tarndarnya @ 13.Nov.2016, 03:05 PM) *
Date of application: 1 NOV 2016
Time spent in Sweden: 4 Years
Date of decision (if made): Who knows when blink.gif
Country of origin: The Earth

and also, on what bases you applied? Permanent Residency on Refugee Status

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any experience with refugee, stateless and humanitarian PR applying for Citizenship? rolleyes.gif


Hello Tarndarnyam, have you been asked to return your passport or do you know if you have a case office at the moment?

Posted by: vxtin 27.Jan.2017, 06:07 PM

Hey all, I read this thread from A to Z before applying and whether it helped or not, I do feel obligated to share my experience.

Date of application: Jan 17, 2017
Time spent in Sweden: 8.5 years
Date of decision (if made): Jan 23, 2017
Country of origin: Middle east

I'm gonna make bullet points for details since it's my habit:


Posted by: hatim 28.Jan.2017, 06:03 PM

QUOTE (vxtin @ 27.Jan.2017, 06:07 PM) *
  • There is no luck involved guys, you are all educated so pay attention to details. It's all about the details and do make sure you follow the application details and do not trust any comment here but your own sound judgement and common sense on every single field you fill or any document you send


So people who follow all the documentation requirements and other criteria, MV does not ask them any extra questions and still spend many months before they get their citizenship were actually missing some thing in their application?

Posted by: Ravn 28.Jan.2017, 08:37 PM

In US and UK Navy, in personnel files (especially higher officers' files) is a row/graph which is called "personal luck"... It is not a joke btw.

Posted by: Martian 29.Jan.2017, 02:46 PM

QUOTE (vxtin @ 27.Jan.2017, 06:07 PM) *
[*] There is no luck involved guys, you are all educated so pay attention to details. It's all about the details and do make sure you follow the application details and do not trust any comment here but your own sound judgement and common sense on every single field you fill or any document you send
[/list]



Hey Mr,
The fact that you got lucky with your application does not give you the audacity to start bitching. TF is wrong with you? Those 4 lines you wrote are totally unnecessary.

Posted by: dr_MadGeek 29.Jan.2017, 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Martian @ 29.Jan.2017, 02:46 PM) *
Hey Mr,
The fact that you got lucky with your application does not give you the audacity to start bitching. TF is wrong with you? Those 4 lines you wrote are totally unnecessary.


Can't agree more!!

Posted by: vxtin 30.Jan.2017, 02:48 PM

QUOTE (dr_MadGeek @ 29.Jan.2017, 03:21 PM) *
Can't agree more!!


Terribly sorry if it was interpreted like that. All I meant was that a simple wrong spelling detail on a form or a document missing (or even redundant) on the first check could put the application in the queue. Of course I can be definitely wrong and just got basically lucky however the main point was to share my experience. Hope it helped!

Posted by: Scottish 31.Jan.2017, 08:36 AM

QUOTE (vxtin @ 30.Jan.2017, 02:48 PM) *
Terribly sorry if it was interpreted like that. All I meant was that a simple wrong spelling detail on a form or a document missing (or even redundant) on the first check could put the application in the queue. Of course I can be definitely wrong and just got basically lucky however the main point was to share my experience. Hope it helped!


Anyone would read your previous comment as being arrogant or something. But it's good you did a damage control to it. cool.gif

Posted by: myusername 31.Jan.2017, 08:13 PM

Hey folks! Quick question.

I have just received paper application from MV, which I have requested due to failing to print it while filling it in online.

It says I have just 6 days to send it to them signed together with my passport. The issue is that I need to go abroad tomorrow for over a week.

Anyone has been in a similar situation? I can send them application tomorrow morning, but I need my passport for a week more.

Posted by: hatim 31.Jan.2017, 08:53 PM

QUOTE (myusername @ 31.Jan.2017, 08:13 PM) *
Hey folks! Quick question.

I have just received paper application from MV, which I have requested due to failing to print it while filling it in online.

It says I have just 6 days to send it to them signed together with my passport. The issue is that I need to go abroad tomorrow for over a week.

Anyone has been in a similar situation? I can send them application tomorrow morning, but I need my passport for a week more.

Contact them on phone. This is a corner case. You will not get your passport back in time.

The worst thing that can happen is you have to apply again (i.e you lose your application fee)

Posted by: HiSweden 5.Feb.2017, 05:55 PM

Now I am wondering, I am still waiting for a decision, but during this time I always travel on holidays.

What will happen if they sent me a letter asking for my passport/more info and I was not in Sweden? How many days they will give me to send them the passport or any information they require?

When they ask you for passport, you can't see this online, can you? That means I always need someone to open my post letters? Although I don't trust anyone, but maybe in that case I have to let someone read any letter from MV.

I dont want my application to get rejected and lose all queuing time because I was on holiday for few days ohmy.gif

Posted by: Martian 5.Feb.2017, 07:41 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 5.Feb.2017, 05:55 PM) *
Now I am wondering, I am still waiting for a decision, but during this time I always travel on holidays.

What will happen if they sent me a letter asking for my passport/more info and I was not in Sweden? How many days they will give me to send them the passport or any information they require?

When they ask you for passport, you can't see this online, can you? That means I always need someone to open my post letters? Although I don't trust anyone, but maybe in that case I have to let someone read any letter from MV.

I dont want my application to get rejected and lose all queuing time because I was on holiday for few days ohmy.gif


In as much as you have already fulfilled the residency time requirement applicable to you before your application, I doubt if your vacations after application jeopardises your application. If I were you, I will enjoy my vacation without worrying about MV.

Posted by: kaysweet 5.Feb.2017, 10:00 PM

@Hisweden, i observed you created this topic without stating when you applied. Is it ok you share info on when you applied?

Posted by: Snood 6.Feb.2017, 11:25 AM

I applied for citizenship just a couple of weeks ago and already have my passport back after requesting it.

I have a couple of trips abroad in the pipeline and at the moment i could potentially have to travel at quite short notice. To those who have sent their passport back to MV once they request it, how long did then then need the passport for? If i send it to them on day 1 can i get it back again say by day 10?

What about if they request the passport back and i have to travel for a couple of day one week after they requested it? I seem to remember reading about 2 weeks to return it, is this negotiable if you contact them and explain travel plans when they do request it?

Posted by: myusername 9.Feb.2017, 01:24 PM

Hej folks! Just a quick note: you do NOT have to send MV your permanent uppehållstillståndskort together with your passport.

Posted by: vosovicd 9.Feb.2017, 03:02 PM

QUOTE (myusername @ 9.Feb.2017, 01:24 PM) *
Hej folks! Just a quick note: you do NOT have to send MV your permanent uppehållstillståndskort together with your passport.


@myusername, MV instructions can be quite inconsistent. When you submit the electronic application, there are some additional instructions:

Här ska du skriva ut din ansökan. Skriv under den och skicka in ansökan tillsammans med identitetsdokument i original. Om du har uppehållstillståndskort ska du även skicka in det (gäller även för barn). Ansökan öppnas i ett annat fönster.

I find this very odd. Surely, they should have a copy of my permanent uppehållstillstånd kort?!!!

Posted by: Scottish 9.Feb.2017, 03:04 PM

Has anyone been asked to return his/her passport lately ? If yes, how long did you wait before you got asked to return your passport?

Posted by: myusername 9.Feb.2017, 03:23 PM

Received mail from MV asking for my passport to verify my international travels.

Do you know for how long they would need it? I may need to ask it back in about 2 weeks to go abroad.

Posted by: Scottish 9.Feb.2017, 04:32 PM

QUOTE (myusername @ 9.Feb.2017, 03:23 PM) *
Received mail from MV asking for my passport to verify my international travels.

Do you know for how long they would need it? I may need to ask it back in about 2 weeks to go abroad.


With the much I have read here, I think it take between one month to two month to get a feedback from MV when they request for you passport back. However i think they are close to making a decision hence the reason they asked for you passport back. Perhaps, when did you send in you application?

Posted by: Martian 9.Feb.2017, 04:40 PM

QUOTE (myusername @ 9.Feb.2017, 01:24 PM) *
Hej folks! Just a quick note: you do NOT have to send MV your permanent uppehållstillståndskort together with your passport.


No, I didn't send mine neither.

QUOTE (vosovicd @ 9.Feb.2017, 03:02 PM) *
@myusername, MV instructions can be quite inconsistent. When you submit the electronic application, there are some additional instructions:

Här ska du skriva ut din ansökan. Skriv under den och skicka in ansökan tillsammans med identitetsdokument i original. Om du har uppehållstillståndskort ska du även skicka in det (gäller även för barn). Ansökan öppnas i ett annat fönster.

I find this very odd. Surely, they should have a copy of my permanent uppehållstillstånd kort?!!!


From these posts, I can easily conclude that each individuals are required to submit different documents. Some are required to submit their residence permits and others are not required. As for me (maybe @vosovicd too), I did not get any additional information like the one in bold in your previous post and thus, I wasn't asked to submit my residence permit. I only sent my passport and my residence permit is still with me at home. I think it all boils down to individuals. Which individuals are required to submit their residence permits is beyond my own comprehension. It is only MV that can explain that.

Posted by: myusername 9.Feb.2017, 05:04 PM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 9.Feb.2017, 04:32 PM) *
With the much I have read here, I think it take between one month to two month to get a feedback from MV when they request for you passport back. However i think they are close to making a decision hence the reason they asked for you passport back. Perhaps, when did you send in you application?

I do not care about the decision as much as about my passport. Good to know it actually means they are working on my application though.

I applied 4 weeks ago. Thanks.

Posted by: HiSweden 15.Feb.2017, 01:56 PM

QUOTE (kaysweet @ 5.Feb.2017, 09:00 PM) *
@Hisweden, i observed you created this topic without stating when you applied. Is it ok you share info on when you applied?


I applied on 29th june 2016.

Still expecting to wait at least a year but who knows, just worried they will send me a letter by post asking for my passport while I am on holidays, and then might get negative decision if I did not send it within 2 weeks unsure.gif

Posted by: myusername 19.Feb.2017, 02:59 AM

Logged in into my account on the MV web-site to check if my passport has arrived and found out that the decision on my case has been made at Tuesday.

I have not received any papers by post yet, so no clue what is this. Hopefully, I will be able to update you on Monday.

Posted by: momo86 19.Feb.2017, 11:59 AM

- Applied on 2nd Jan 2017
- Requested for my passport back on 7th Feb 2017 and MV sent me a mail on 15th Feb 2017 to send back my passport
-Sent back my passport on 17th Feb 2017
-Still yet to confirm whether MV has received it

Posted by: tarkoch 19.Feb.2017, 01:06 PM

I had UT 2 years(2012) +2 years(2014) + PUT(2016) from January 2012. Applied for the citizenship online on 27 January and received the decision on 1 February.

Posted by: myusername 19.Feb.2017, 11:11 PM

QUOTE (momo86 @ 19.Feb.2017, 11:59 AM) *
-Still yet to confirm whether MV has received it

You was supposed to use recommended mail, which is trackable.

Posted by: myusername 20.Feb.2017, 08:08 AM

Ladies and gentlemen,

I am a Swedish citizen.

Date of application: 11.01.2017
Time spent in Sweden: 5 years (4 WP + 1 PUT)
Date of decision (if made): 14.12.2017
Country of origin:

I am extremely surprised of such a short waiting time (a little over a month). The best of luck to everybody!

Posted by: momo86 20.Feb.2017, 09:27 AM

I actually used registered mail. Am sure they will be receiving it today.

Posted by: myusername 20.Feb.2017, 10:30 PM

Together with my citizenship certificate I have received mail asking to send my PUT card to Migrationsverket.

Just in case I would like to clarify with you, ladies and gentlemen I ought to send only my PUT card, not my previous temporary UT cards.

Thank you.

Posted by: momo86 21.Feb.2017, 10:38 AM

QUOTE (myusername @ 20.Feb.2017, 11:30 PM) *
Together with my citizenship certificate I have received mail asking to send my PUT card to Migrationsverket.

Just in case I would like to clarify with you, ladies and gentlemen I ought to send only my PUT card, not my previous temporary UT cards.

Thank you.


Am sure the earlier temporary permits are no longer valid and expired hence useless. Its only the permanent residence card that is valid and that is why they need it to get it cancelled as you have received citizenship.If you had a sticker in your passport instead,they would have crossed it out with a marking.Congratulations!!!!

Posted by: HiSweden 21.Feb.2017, 10:47 PM

QUOTE (myusername @ 20.Feb.2017, 09:30 PM) *
Together with my citizenship certificate I have received mail asking to send my PUT card to Migrationsverket.

Just in case I would like to clarify with you, ladies and gentlemen I ought to send only my PUT card, not my previous temporary UT cards.

Thank you.



Do you get the citizenship certificate directly in the mailbox at home or you have to pick it up in person at the post office?

Posted by: myusername 22.Feb.2017, 10:42 AM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 21.Feb.2017, 10:47 PM) *
Do you get the citizenship certificate directly in the mailbox at home or you have to pick it up in person at the post office?

It comes as a registered mail, so you receive notification and have to pick it up yourself at a post office.

Posted by: myusername 24.Feb.2017, 03:11 PM

May those, who have received citizenship within last couple of months explain me how does registration with Skatteverket work?

Should I update them on my new status or Migrationsverket will let them know and I will see I am Swedish citizen in my personbevis later?

Thank you.

Posted by: Scottish 24.Feb.2017, 03:34 PM

QUOTE (myusername @ 24.Feb.2017, 03:11 PM) *
May those, who have received citizenship within last couple of months explain me how does registration with Skatteverket work?

Should I update them on my new status or Migrationsverket will let them know and I will see I am Swedish citizen in my personbevis later?

Thank you.


from the much i have read in the past, MV will send your new status to Skatteverket. I think the update should pop up on your bevis within 2-3 weeks after the decision is made.

Posted by: raspberrypi 28.Feb.2017, 11:07 AM

Hi,

I want to know two things regarding citizenship application,

1. If you take your passport back while they have not picket it up and then they pick up your case later, how many days do they give you to return the passport to them to process the application?

2. And how long does it take for them to process the applciation once they pick it up and have your passport in their hands?

Posted by: Scottish 28.Feb.2017, 11:20 AM

QUOTE (raspberrypi @ 28.Feb.2017, 11:07 AM) *
Hi,

I want to know two things regarding citizenship application,

1. If you take your passport back while they have not picket it up and then they pick up your case later, how many days do they give you to return the passport to them to process the application?

2. And how long does it take for them to process the applciation once they pick it up and have your passport in their hands?


From various post here, You are required to return your passport for further processing within two weeks that the letter is sent to you.

And when it gets to MV, usually decision is made withing 1 month (may even be weeks) and at most two months, after they get your passport back.

Posted by: hatim 28.Feb.2017, 04:12 PM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 28.Feb.2017, 11:20 AM) *
From various post here, You are required to return your passport for further processing within two weeks that the letter is sent to you.

And when it gets to MV, usually decision is made withing 1 month (may even be weeks) and at most two months, after they get your passport back.

There is no hard requirement as far as I can tell. If you are traveling or can not send your passport then you can let them know why. It _MAY_ delay your process further but they can not legally decline your application just because you are traveling or your passport is not available at the moment. Any thing to the contrary would be violation of Swedish laws as I understand them.

Posted by: raspberrypi 1.Mar.2017, 08:18 AM

Thanks @Scottish and @hatim for your replies. Actually I am going abroad for fixed 6 months (job) so was thinking if I have to comeback to submit my passport how long do I have to wait before I go back.

It seems like it is quite uncertain.

Posted by: momo86 2.Mar.2017, 10:47 AM

QUOTE (momo86 @ 19.Feb.2017, 12:59 PM) *
- Applied on 2nd Jan 2017
- Requested for my passport back on 7th Feb 2017 and MV sent me a mail on 15th Feb 2017 to send back my passport
-Sent back my passport on 17th Feb 2017
-Still yet to confirm whether MV has received it

-Date of Decision:2 March 2017

Posted by: raspberrypi 2.Mar.2017, 05:01 PM

QUOTE (momo86 @ 2.Mar.2017, 10:47 AM) *
-Date of Decision:2 March 2017


@momo86 Congratulations smile.gif. You are one of the luckiest ones who got it quickly and smoothly.

Posted by: raspberrypi 6.Mar.2017, 12:37 PM

Hi,

I have gathered few questions for them who got their decisions or waiting for. Theses are questions which I believe might affect your application and can put your appliation in the longest queue. This might tell you that why somebody got a decision in 2 weeks and why some in 16 months or even more.

What type of visa did you have before getting the PR?
When did you apply?:
When did you get your decision?:
Did you apply alone or with family?:
Did you apply after completing the required period of staying in Sweden or applied earlier?:
Did you stay abroad for more than 6 weeks while living permanently in Sweden?:
Did you stay abroad "often" for period shorter than 6 weeks while living permanently in Sweden?:
Did you have any kind of bad record in Sweden and happy to tell here smile.gif?:

Posted by: HiSweden 7.Mar.2017, 01:14 PM

I asked MV what can I do if I am abroad and you requested my passport back, and I couldn't send it within two weeks because I was abroad. Their answer was general and not clear.

QUOTE
You do not have to worry about being rejected because of passport. We will contact you by letter to send your passport when we are about to make a decision.


Not sure if you guys have any suggestions?

Posted by: good_luck_1 7.Mar.2017, 06:22 PM

Hello everyone,
I have applied for a Swedish citizenship (based on marriage if it matters), about a week ago.
I have already recieved my passport back, saying that they don't need it anymore and the initial overview of my case is done and that it doesn't influence my place in a queue.

Anyone has experience like that, I mean does it mean that my application is in a "long queue" now?

Thanks

Posted by: kaysweet 7.Mar.2017, 10:05 PM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 7.Mar.2017, 06:22 PM) *
Hello everyone,
I have applied for a Swedish citizenship (based on marriage if it matters), about a week ago.
I have already recieved my passport back, saying that they don't need it anymore and the initial overview of my case is done and that it doesn't influence my place in a queue.

Anyone has experience like that, I mean does it mean that my application is in a "long queue" now?

Thanks

No one can tell exactly but placing a call to the will give you an exact idea ofhow long you have to wait. However, there are strong indication to suggest you needed to wait since they wont make adecision without having your passport with MV.

Posted by: Scottish 9.Mar.2017, 03:09 PM

Any update information from anyone who recently got a request for his passport to be return to be sent back to MV?

Posted by: rcsNC 10.Mar.2017, 08:18 PM

Hey folks,
I am new to this site.
I am currently trying to find a way to legally move to Sweden to be with my girlfriend. Let me catch you all up. I have family that live in huddinge and I have been visiting Sweden for a very long time. Last summer on a visit to my relatives I met a wonderful girl. We really connected and decided to make it work. We FaceTime every day and I recently went back to visit in November for 3 weeks to see her and my family of course and she just flew to the states to visit and will be back again in may. I am also planning a trip back out in July. During this visits we have both been attempting to find a way for me to move to Sweden legally. I have been applying to several jobs but with no luck. I only have about 2 years of college here in the states, son of having a degree of some sort doesn't help I suppose. Anyway we could do the sambo thing, however she lives with her parents at the moment due to a lack of apartments in Sweden. I not sure what to do. My uncle, who lives in huddinge, is trying to help the best he can but there is only so much that can be done. Can anyone here please offer some advice? Thank you

Posted by: kunskapi 15.Mar.2017, 07:19 PM

Hello everyone i have applied for Swedish citizenship on 12-2-2016.
i dont have heared anything from MV. two weeks ago i contected them and got the answer that no visa officer is assigned to my case yet. anybody know here on which month they are currently working? or any idea how long i have to wait more ?

thak you very much.

Posted by: kaysweet 15.Mar.2017, 08:02 PM

QUOTE (kunskapi @ 15.Mar.2017, 07:19 PM) *
Hello everyone i have applied for Swedish citizenship on 12-2-2016.
i dont have heared anything from MV. two weeks ago i contected them and got the answer that no visa officer is assigned to my case yet. anybody know here on which month they are currently working? or any idea how long i have to wait more ?

thak you very much.



The waiting time seems to have increased of recent. I know a friend who has been waiting for over 16 months now (going 17 next month), and yet without a case officer assigned to his case yet. I guess one will have to just ignore the whole process of time now and maybe get busy with other relevant life matters, while the process goes on.

Posted by: Alex29 16.Mar.2017, 12:26 PM

QUOTE (kunskapi @ 15.Mar.2017, 07:19 PM) *
any idea how long i have to wait more ?

Waiting times are up to 20 months. You've waited for 1, so somewhere between 1 day and 19 months.

Posted by: sfk 19.Mar.2017, 08:40 PM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 7.Mar.2017, 06:22 PM) *
Hello everyone,
I have applied for a Swedish citizenship (based on marriage if it matters), about a week ago.
I have already recieved my passport back, saying that they don't need it anymore and the initial overview of my case is done and that it doesn't influence my place in a queue.

Anyone has experience like that, I mean does it mean that my application is in a "long queue" now?

Thanks

Hello..
I applied two weeks ago and they sent my passport back last week too. This was unexpected since I did not ask it back...

They might change the procedure: Instead of keeping passports, they might decide to check them and send back as soon as possible.

Have you got any news?
It will be good to know your experiences. /TY

Posted by: good_luck_1 20.Mar.2017, 09:05 AM

QUOTE (sfk @ 19.Mar.2017, 08:40 PM) *
Hello..
I applied two weeks ago and they sent my passport back last week too. This was unexpected since I did not ask it back...

They might change the procedure: Instead of keeping passports, they might decide to check them and send back as soon as possible.

Have you got any news?
It will be good to know your experiences. /TY


I was thinking about same thing, always wondered why would they need our passports back again since they have seen it and can make a decision based on that.
I have no news, some people on another forum said that it means that we are gonna wait long time if they've sent a passport directly and placed us in a long queue. But who knows...

Posted by: kunskapi 20.Mar.2017, 07:28 PM

QUOTE (Alex29 @ 16.Mar.2017, 12:26 PM) *
Waiting times are up to 20 months. You've waited for 1, so somewhere between 1 day and 19 months.


Alex29
i applied in 2016 not 2017. blink.gif

i have never asked for my passport and they havn´t send me either.

Posted by: Snood 22.Mar.2017, 04:07 PM

QUOTE (kunskapi @ 20.Mar.2017, 07:28 PM) *
Alex29
i applied in 2016 not 2017. blink.gif

i have never asked for my passport and they havn´t send me either.


To be fair, you said you applied 12-2-2016 which is a pretty ambiguous date format, is that 12th February 2016 or 2nd December 2016.. This is why ISO8601 is a thing.

Posted by: sfk 22.Mar.2017, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 20.Mar.2017, 09:05 AM) *
I was thinking about same thing, always wondered why would they need our passports back again since they have seen it and can make a decision based on that.
I have no news, some people on another forum said that it means that we are gonna wait long time if they've sent a passport directly and placed us in a long queue. But who knows...


Let us see...
Good luck

Posted by: wondering_again 25.Mar.2017, 08:20 PM

I am still waiting and it will be 11 months next Sunday. Will check in on the 12 month mark but not sure if doing that will help.

Any experience with calling in to Migrationsverket helping in getting updates ?

Posted by: kunskapi 26.Mar.2017, 09:23 PM

QUOTE (Snood @ 22.Mar.2017, 04:07 PM) *
To be fair, you said you applied 12-2-2016 which is a pretty ambiguous date format, is that 12th February 2016 or 2nd December 2016.. This is why ISO8601 is a thing.


Thanks for the suggestion. it is 12th February 2016.

QUOTE (wondering_again @ 25.Mar.2017, 08:20 PM) *
I am still waiting and it will be 11 months next Sunday. Will check in on the 12 month mark but not sure if doing that will help.

Any experience with calling in to Migrationsverket helping in getting updates ?


i have been waiting for more than 13 monthes now and a month ago i e-mailed Migrationsverket about my case and came to know i dont have any case officer assigned yet.

Posted by: lelu 28.Mar.2017, 05:51 PM

Hi,

I requested my passport back which I got with a letter mentioning that they have examined it and that they do not need my passport back and therefor I should not send it.

Does this means that until I get a decision they will not ask it back or that they will ask when a case officer will be apointed (i suppose it hasent already)? Anybody else had a similar mail when they asked for their passports?

Posted by: efigenio 29.Mar.2017, 03:20 AM

I applied 9 months ago and I have not gotten an answer yet.

My application was sent complete (I can tell) and I've lived in Sweden for 6 years now. I was granted PUT after two years, and now I hope to get the citizenship before Sweden Democrats become the second largest party in 2018 and they make it harder.

Posted by: raspberrypi 29.Mar.2017, 09:15 AM

QUOTE (lelu @ 28.Mar.2017, 06:51 PM) *
I got with a letter mentioning that they have examined it and that they do not need my passport back and therefor I should not send it.


Didn't they mention that they will ask it back when they need it? What I understand from your post is that it won't be needed at all even when it is time to take a decision.

Posted by: good_luck_1 29.Mar.2017, 11:29 AM

QUOTE (raspberrypi @ 29.Mar.2017, 09:15 AM) *
Didn't they mention that they will ask it back when they need it? What I understand from your post is that it won't be needed at all even when it is time to take a decision.


Well it is the same letter as I recieved, probably everyone receives similar letter starting from 2017.
I have asked a question online at MV website whether I need ever send my passport back and the answer was : " We will ask your passport back when we will need to make a decision".

Posted by: HiSweden 29.Mar.2017, 12:36 PM

QUOTE (lelu @ 28.Mar.2017, 04:51 PM) *
Hi,

I requested my passport back which I got with a letter mentioning that they have examined it and that they do not need my passport back and therefor I should not send it.

Does this means that until I get a decision they will not ask it back or that they will ask when a case officer will be apointed (i suppose it hasent already)? Anybody else had a similar mail when they asked for their passports?




I think everyone request their passport back get it with the same letter. But, the new thing here is people who applied and MV sent their passports back to them although they DID NOT ask their passports back.

Posted by: Scottish 29.Mar.2017, 12:39 PM

i think MV can't keep up witht he volumes of passports in their care anymore hence the need to send them back and request for it when the time is right.

Aside, I got assigned a case officer after waiting for about 16 months and 11 days. Will update this page soonest.

Posted by: lelu 29.Mar.2017, 02:20 PM

QUOTE (raspberrypi @ 29.Mar.2017, 10:15 AM) *
Didn't they mention that they will ask it back when they need it? What I understand from your post is that it won't be needed at all even when it is time to take a decision.


Not actually. They just wrote that they have already examined it and they will not need it anymore, mentioning that I should not send it back. They didnt mention anything about asking it later, but that doesnt mean that they wont ask it again I guess.

Posted by: lelu 29.Mar.2017, 02:23 PM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 29.Mar.2017, 01:39 PM) *
i think MV can't keep up witht he volumes of passports in their care anymore hence the need to send them back and request for it when the time is right.

Aside, I got assigned a case officer after waiting for about 16 months and 11 days. Will update this page soonest.


Makes sense this way.. From what I understood, when they ask it back they ask to be sent within two weeks. What happens if when you will get the letter you are away for vacations and cannot send it within two weeks? Or if the letter from them get lost.. Are they gonna send a reminder or they will make a decision without the passport?

Posted by: good_luck_1 30.Mar.2017, 07:47 AM

QUOTE (lelu @ 29.Mar.2017, 01:20 PM) *
Not actually. They just wrote that they have already examined it and they will not need it anymore, mentioning that I should not send it back. They didnt mention anything about asking it later, but that doesnt mean that they wont ask it again I guess.


Can you please type that swedish text that u got in a letter from MV?
I would like to compare them and see if there are some differences. They never mentioned in mine that I don't need to send it back ...

Posted by: Scottish 30.Mar.2017, 10:54 AM

So here is the update, I finally got a decision after waiting for 16 months and 20 days. And guess what ? It's positive.

Posted by: raspberrypi 30.Mar.2017, 01:29 PM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 30.Mar.2017, 11:54 AM) *
So here is the update, I finally got a decision after waiting for 16 months and 20 days. And guess what ? It's positive.


Heartiest congratulations from us biggrin.gif. Did they ask the passport back to take the decision? If so, how long they took to decide after getting it back?

Posted by: Scottish 30.Mar.2017, 01:43 PM

QUOTE (raspberrypi @ 30.Mar.2017, 02:29 PM) *
Heartiest congratulations from us biggrin.gif. Did they ask the passport back to take the decision? If so, how long they took to decide after getting it back?


Thanks @raspberrypi, I was assigned a case office on 20th March, 2017. All communication with the case officer was done via email because I felt it was faster, easier and more calming way to get words out.

The case officer requested I give it some time to do the necessary background checks and , having completed the background checks, the case officer got back to me on 24th March, thus requesting for my passport and PUT card. Sent it in during the weekend and it arrived on 28th March. The decision was made yesterday - 29th March.

Posted by: sfk 30.Mar.2017, 03:06 PM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 30.Mar.2017, 01:43 PM) *
The decision was made yesterday - 29th March.


Congratulations

Posted by: wondering_again 30.Mar.2017, 06:58 PM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 30.Mar.2017, 01:43 PM) *
Thanks @raspberrypi, I was assigned a case office on 20th March, 2017. All communication with the case officer was done via email because I felt it was faster, easier and more calming way to get words out.

The case officer requested I give it some time to do the necessary background checks and , having completed the background checks, the case officer got back to me on 24th March, thus requesting for my passport and PUT card. Sent it in during the weekend and it arrived on 28th March. The decision was made yesterday - 29th March.


Congratulations to you !!

Did the case officer contact you when the case was picked up ? Did you contact them before ?

Also did you communicate in Swedish with the case officer ?

Posted by: Martian 30.Mar.2017, 07:16 PM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 30.Mar.2017, 10:54 AM) *
So here is the update, I finally got a decision after waiting for 16 months and 20 days. And guess what ? It's positive.


A big contratulations to you!!

Posted by: dr_MadGeek 30.Mar.2017, 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Scottish @ 30.Mar.2017, 11:54 AM) *
So here is the update, I finally got a decision after waiting for 16 months and 20 days. And guess what ? It's positive.


Congratulations smile.gif

Posted by: Scottish 31.Mar.2017, 07:56 AM

QUOTE (wondering_again @ 30.Mar.2017, 07:58 PM) *
Congratulations to you !!

Did the case officer contact you when the case was picked up ? Did you contact them before ?

Also did you communicate in Swedish with the case officer ?


Thanks everyone. @wondering_again, I actually contact MV customer service to find out if it was assigned. And yes, it was. So i got the phone contacts and email address of the case officer in question. Like I said, i didn't place any call directly to the case office because I preferred the email alternative better. I initiated the conversation (first in English ) with the case officer and explained that it much quick and preferred to communicate via email. I got my all replies in Swedish and I did reply as well from there on in Swedish. But I don't think language is key since they also understand English as well and it's not even a requirement.

Posted by: lelu 31.Mar.2017, 09:24 AM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 30.Mar.2017, 08:47 AM) *
Can you please type that swedish text that u got in a letter from MV?
I would like to compare them and see if there are some differences. They never mentioned in mine that I don't need to send it back ...


Yes, sure.
The text is this: 'Vi har granskat ditt hemlandspass. MV behöver därmed inte längre handlingen och vi ber dig därför att inte skicka tillbaka handlingen till oss.'

What did they wrote to you?

Posted by: good_luck_1 31.Mar.2017, 09:29 AM

QUOTE (lelu @ 31.Mar.2017, 09:24 AM) *
Yes, sure.
The text is this: 'Vi har granskat ditt hemlandspass. MV behöver därmed inte längre handlingen och vi ber dig därför att inte skicka tillbaka handlingen till oss.'

What did they wrote to you?


" Vi har vid första genomgång av ditt ärende granskat ditt hemlandspass. Migrationsverket behöver därmed inte längre handlingen och därför skickar vi tillbaka den till dig. Detta påverkar inte din plats i kön. "

So it is a completely different text that we got. Possibly you gonna get a decision soon if they didnt mention the horror "queue" word in your letter.

Posted by: lelu 31.Mar.2017, 10:17 AM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 31.Mar.2017, 10:29 AM) *
" Vi har vid första genomgång av ditt ärende granskat ditt hemlandspass. Migrationsverket behöver därmed inte längre handlingen och därför skickar vi tillbaka den till dig. Detta påverkar inte din plats i kön. "

So it is a completely different text that we got. Possibly you gonna get a decision soon if they didnt mention the horror "queue" word in your letter.


The last sentence 'Detta påverkar inte din plats i kön' was also mentioned to me. I thought o write only the part of the passport before.. So it doesn't seem I will also get any decission soon. From what I understood in your case they send it to you without asking for it.

My question is when they ask for the passport back (which if I am not wrong they give you 2 weeks to do so), if you are for example away for vacations and dont receive the mail or if the mail get lost (which happens some times) then what? Are they contacting again or make a decision without passport (not good)?

Posted by: Moe 2.Apr.2017, 01:18 AM

hello, i am trying to join my wife in Sweden,i applied for a residence permit on 18 January 2016.
i was emailed to schedule an interview 5 months later, but because of the long line i had to wait 10 month for my interview which will take place on 10th of April, 2017.

Would some one please tell me what happened after the interview and what are the potential questions they might ask me during the interview ?

thank you in advance !

Posted by: kaysweet 2.Apr.2017, 06:24 AM

QUOTE (Moe @ 2.Apr.2017, 01:18 AM) *
hello, i am trying to join my wife in Sweden,i applied for a residence permit on 18 January 2016.
i was emailed to schedule an interview 5 months later, but because of the long line i had to wait 10 month for my interview which will take place on 10th of April, 2017.

Would some one please tell me what happened after the interview and what are the potential questions they might ask me during the interview ?

thank you in advance !


I will suggest you join a dedicated facebook group for questions on this. The group is called :" I väntan på familjen"

Posted by: jdavin81 3.Apr.2017, 03:49 PM

I guess I am one of lucky ones!

Date of application: 9 March 2017
Time spent in Sweden: 1 year student + 4 years WP + 1 year PR
Date of decision (if made): 30 March 2017
Country of origin: Asia

It was quite straight case for me. I have stick to same company (IT Consultant) for almost 5 years just to be safe and I think that has paid off. I have received WP decisions earlier within 24 hours as well.

Regarding citizenship application, on 27 March I called Migrationsverket and no case officer was assigned. Same day I applied to get my passport back. May be request to get the passport somehow trigger to open my case, don't know. smile.gif I checked online again on 31st March and decision was taken.

Now waiting for decision papers to arrive in post and apply for passport etc.

Good luck everyone.

Posted by: raspberrypi 3.Apr.2017, 04:58 PM

QUOTE (jdavin81 @ 3.Apr.2017, 04:49 PM) *
Regarding citizenship application, on 27 March I called Migrationsverket and no case officer was assigned. Same day I applied to get my passport back. May be request to get the passport somehow trigger to open my case, don't know. smile.gif I checked online again on 31st March and decision was taken.


Many congratulations @jdavin81.

One question; didn't you send the passport back for them to take decision?

Posted by: Hopgood 3.Apr.2017, 06:23 PM

Hi all

Based on the experience of those in this thread, is there anything a person new in sweden should be doing over the next five years to position themselves to get a favourable decision when the day comes to apply for citizenship? I mean, do we even know what they are basing these decisions on?

Also, what's PUT?

Posted by: jdavin81 3.Apr.2017, 10:59 PM

QUOTE (raspberrypi @ 3.Apr.2017, 03:58 PM) *
Many congratulations @jdavin81.

One question; didn't you send the passport back for them to take decision?


Thank you:)
They have not sent my passport back yet. I think during the time I asked for passport they already process my application. smile.gif

Posted by: mellanvestern 4.Apr.2017, 07:54 AM

QUOTE (Hopgood @ 3.Apr.2017, 06:23 PM) *
Hi all

Based on the experience of those in this thread, is there anything a person new in sweden should be doing over the next five years to position themselves to get a favourable decision when the day comes to apply for citizenship? I mean, do we even know what they are basing these decisions on?

For the love of God, don't be outside Sweden for more than 42 days per calender year! It will increase your processing time quite a bit.

Sweden doesn't really care how well integrated you are; it's mostly a matter of having sufficient domicile time ("hemvisttid"). If you spend, for instance, 43 days outside Sweden during 2017, 43 days will be deducted from your hemvisttid. If you're out for 40 days, no time will be deducted.

Also, keep of a record of all your time outside Sweden (country, date of entry, date of exit), because it's hard collect later. They will call bullshit if you spend 5 years in Sweden without a single trip to another Schengen Area country.

QUOTE (Hopgood @ 3.Apr.2017, 06:23 PM) *
Also, what's PUT?

"Permanent uppehållstillstånd" or permanent residence permit.

Posted by: Hopgood 4.Apr.2017, 12:30 PM

Thanks for the reply. As an EU citizen who has been here nearly a year and intends to stay, do I need a PUT?

Posted by: good_luck_1 4.Apr.2017, 01:00 PM

I have asked MV if I can get the details of my case officer, but instead I got to know that there is no case officer assigned to my case, probably they have thrown me in the queue with waiting times 1 year and more.

I have studied in Sweden, married to a swede for more than 4 years, and have a steady job for nearly three years now, so my case is pretty easy.

Well well well they totally dislike me out there smile.gif

Posted by: HiSweden 12.Apr.2017, 08:23 PM

I already exceeded the 42 days out of Sweden. In fact I went abroad for more than 4 months for studies, but that was last year. Now I am afraid to exceed the 42 days again on holidays, then it might take me even longer.

Posted by: axiom 13.Apr.2017, 02:25 PM

QUOTE (Hopgood @ 4.Apr.2017, 12:30 PM) *
Thanks for the reply. As an EU citizen who has been here nearly a year and intends to stay, do I need a PUT?


No, just keep living with your right of residence. At 5 years you can apply for proof of permanent residence, you don't apply for permanent residence, this is automatic as long as you continue to meet the requirements for freedom of movement during the entire 5yrs. However you can skip this and apply for citizenship, MSVT will then assess your PUT at the same time as the citizenship application, ie. they will check that you have met the freedom of movement rules during the last 5yrs.

Posted by: HiSweden 19.Apr.2017, 03:59 PM

QUOTE (jdavin81 @ 3.Apr.2017, 02:49 PM) *
I guess I am one of lucky ones!

Date of application: 9 March 2017
Time spent in Sweden: 1 year student + 4 years WP + 1 year PR
Date of decision (if made): 30 March 2017
Country of origin: Asia

It was quite straight case for me. I have stick to same company (IT Consultant) for almost 5 years just to be safe and I think that has paid off. I have received WP decisions earlier within 24 hours as well.

Regarding citizenship application, on 27 March I called Migrationsverket and no case officer was assigned. Same day I applied to get my passport back. May be request to get the passport somehow trigger to open my case, don't know. smile.gif I checked online again on 31st March and decision was taken.

Now waiting for decision papers to arrive in post and apply for passport etc.

Good luck everyone.



When you called and MV told you there is no case officer assigned to your case, did they tell you that waiting time is 16-20 months? Every time I contact them they tell me waiting time is 16-20 months! So I guess they will make me wait at least 16 months!

Posted by: Snood 20.Apr.2017, 03:33 PM

Date of application: 15 January 2017
Time spent in Sweden: 5.5 years, Living with a Swedish citizen the whole time, girlfrind at first, now wife. registered right to reside as EU citizen based on ability to support myself (Job), not sambo.
Country of origin: UK

I called MV a few days ago and was told that my application has been looked at and it was decided that it needs investigation, so on to the long queue, quoted as 17-20 months at the time of the phone call (listed online as a few months less at the time of applying). I asked why it was decided that it needed investigation but apparently they don't make any note of that, just that it needs investigation.

I was told that there are three common reasons that further investigation is required:

  1. Dates don't match: the dates I provided them with (when I arrived in Sweden etc) don't match what they think they should be. Well, i provided the same dates that are on the paperwork I have from them.
  2. Too many stamps in the passport: I only have three sets of entry/exit stamps, Canada, USA and Japan
  3. More information sent than was requested: Apparently they have to investigate ALL information that is sent to them, whether they asked for it or not. I only sent what they asked for.


It seems the whole thing is a game of roulette as to which path through the system you take.

I just hope I get citizenship before Brexit is complete.

Posted by: camembert 21.Apr.2017, 07:42 PM

Date of application: 2017-04-15
Time spent in Sweden: 4 years WP + 1 year PR
Date of decision (if made): 2017-04-21
Country of origin: Russia

What I did - I just read everything thoroughly, then I contacted them for clarification of some info from the website that was not completely clear to me in order to do everything 100% correctly, I sent them my current passport, the previous passport that has expired (as required by them on the website) and my PUT-card. Then I called them this morning to double check if they received my passports and PUT-card, which they confirmed, later on I checked the status of my application on the website and discovered that a decision had been made! I called them again and they confirmed that they granted me the citizenship and sent a letter with my passports.

My experience tells me that it is important to get in touch with them. All my interaction with MV when I applied for my WPs, RP and now citizenship has given my the impression that every time I called them my case went forward to the next step (they either requested more information or made a decision, but at least something happened).

Good luck everyone, I hope you all will get your decisions sooner than you expect!

Posted by: good_luck_1 25.Apr.2017, 09:20 AM

Wow, that is crazy fast. Good for you.

But where did you get that information that you need to send a PUT card? it doesn't say so on MV website.

And anyway they have access to this kind of information. Well I am just puzzled now agaian and again by the MV way of deciding how and who should get residence permits or passports faster...

Posted by: camembert 25.Apr.2017, 12:05 PM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 25.Apr.2017, 09:20 AM) *
Wow, that is crazy fast. Good for you.

But where did you get that information that you need to send a PUT card? it doesn't say so on MV website.

And anyway they have access to this kind of information. Well I am just puzzled now agaian and again by the MV way of deciding how and who should get residence permits or passports faster...


I know, there is no info about it on the website, but when I had finished my online application, it said something like "Now you need to print this document and sent it together with your passport and PUT-card to MV in Norrköping", which I did.

They do have the access to this info, but first it is useless to you without your passport anyway, and when you are granted citizenship, you have to leave your PUT-card to MV anyway, so why shouldn't they request it from the very beginning so you don't have to send it separately when the decision is made.

Posted by: santacroce 29.Apr.2017, 08:54 AM

As far as you guys might know, how early before the reach of 5yrs could one apply without jeopardising the application? (given that there seems to be a 17-20 month queue)

Posted by: mellanvestern 29.Apr.2017, 05:40 PM

QUOTE (santacroce @ 29.Apr.2017, 07:54 AM) *
As far as you guys might know, how early before the reach of 5yrs could one apply without jeopardising the application? (given that there seems to be a 17-20 month queue)

If you're EU (at least a couple of years ago), you couldn't apply until you'd reached your five years.

Non-EU citizen can however take a chance and do what you're talking about. For them, there's never been a limit on how early you can apply since the current system was put in place.

Posted by: kunskapi 9.May.2017, 04:40 PM

hello everybody.
i am waiting for Swedish citizenship (for 15 months now) and my passport and permanent residence permit card is at migrationsverket. now i have to travell (by flight) from malmö to stockholm and return for a training orgonised by my employer. my question is do i need my passport and residence card during this domestic flight or is it ok if i have only identity card issued by skatterverket and the decision letter from migrationsverket that i am holding permanent residence in Sweden. i am a non EU citizen. please share your experience.
thanks

Posted by: adrién 12.May.2017, 04:44 PM

hey

Posted by: adrién 12.May.2017, 04:45 PM

lelu

Posted by: lelu 12.May.2017, 08:00 PM

QUOTE (adrién @ 12.May.2017, 05:44 PM) *
hey



QUOTE (adrién @ 12.May.2017, 05:45 PM) *
lelu


hi..

Posted by: Martian 17.May.2017, 03:07 PM

I applied 10 months ago and I recently requested my passport back. They said they have reviewed the passport and they no longer need it anymore. They also begged me not to send it back and it doesn't affect my place in the queue. Did anyone of you experience something similar to this when you requested for your passport?

Here is the exact wording:

"Vi har granskat ditt hemlandspass. Migrationsverket behöver därmed inte längre passen och vi ber dig därför att inte skicka tillbaka passen till oss. Detta påverkar inte din plats i kön".

Posted by: good_luck_1 18.May.2017, 07:27 AM

QUOTE (kunskapi @ 9.May.2017, 03:40 PM) *
hello everybody.
i am waiting for Swedish citizenship (for 15 months now) and my passport and permanent residence permit card is at migrationsverket. now i have to travell (by flight) from malmö to stockholm and return for a training orgonised by my employer. my question is do i need my passport and residence card during this domestic flight or is it ok if i have only identity card issued by skatterverket and the decision letter from migrationsverket that i am holding permanent residence in Sweden. i am a non EU citizen. please share your experience.
thanks


Well i do not understand why u guys send the residence permit? MV knows that you have it.
I sent my passport only and they have sent it back after 1 week, saying that they dont need it that much anymore.

Posted by: kunskapi 18.May.2017, 04:02 PM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 18.May.2017, 08:27 AM) *
Well i do not understand why u guys send the residence permit? MV knows that you have it.
I sent my passport only and they have sent it back after 1 week, saying that they dont need it that much anymore.



as long as i remember they had mentioned it while i applied online that i have to send the residence permit card and passport in origional with your citizenship application. today i read it on MV site that you have to send even the old passport (the expired one) alongside your current passport with application. huh.gif

Posted by: mellanvestern 19.May.2017, 04:46 PM

QUOTE (kunskapi @ 18.May.2017, 03:02 PM) *
as long as i remember they had mentioned it while i applied online that i have to send the residence permit card and passport in origional with your citizenship application. today i read it on MV site that you have to send even the old passport (the expired one) alongside your current passport with application. huh.gif

When I applied for citizenship, I had to attach not only my current and previous passport, but also the passport I had when I was 2 years old and arrived in Malmö by hovercraft in 1985. I can only assume my childhood passport photo thawed their icy hearts. smile.gif

Posted by: HiSweden 21.May.2017, 02:02 AM

Same here, I was asked to send my PUT card along with my application, not sure what does it mean if they ask for it, or if they don't. They did not send it back, until I asked for my passport and PUT card, which was few months after I made my application.

Posted by: good_luck_1 22.May.2017, 09:09 AM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 21.May.2017, 01:02 AM) *
Same here, I was asked to send my PUT card along with my application, not sure what does it mean if they ask for it, or if they don't. They did not send it back, until I asked for my passport and PUT card, which was few months after I made my application.


I guess they have changed their policy, since one no longer needs to send Permanent residence card with your application, however old passport is still required. I have called them and asked if I actually had to send the card since I read your comments here, but they answered that there is no need as ofc they can see in their system that the card was issued.
Also they seem to have understood that the person might need to travel while waiting for a decision, and that is also the reason why they send the passport back nearly directly after application...

Posted by: HiSweden 24.May.2017, 10:32 PM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 22.May.2017, 08:09 AM) *
I guess they have changed their policy, since one no longer needs to send Permanent residence card with your application, however old passport is still required. I have called them and asked if I actually had to send the card since I read your comments here, but they answered that there is no need as ofc they can see in their system that the card was issued.
Also they seem to have understood that the person might need to travel while waiting for a decision, and that is also the reason why they send the passport back nearly directly after application...



I applied in June 2016 and had to send my PUT card. At that time, they did not send my passport back, but I requested it because I had to travel.

I am very sure they will ask for it again, as I realized that I applied before I fulfill the required time of residence. So they will have to check again that I met the time requirements.

Posted by: HiSweden 25.May.2017, 12:49 PM

The Swedish Migration Agency does not need to investigate the application: 1-5 months.

If your application doesn't need investigation, then it got faster for you.

Applications that requires investigation, still same waiting time.

Posted by: wallace1837 25.May.2017, 06:42 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 25.May.2017, 11:49 AM) *
The Swedish Migration Agency does not need to investigate the application: 1-5 months.

If your application doesn't need investigation, then it got faster for you.

Applications that requires investigation, still same waiting time.

What fraction of applications fall into the no investigation line? 1-2% or less?

Posted by: jenko 25.May.2017, 08:57 PM

Anybody receive decision ? please write application date and decision

Posted by: hatim 25.May.2017, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 25.May.2017, 01:49 PM) *
The Swedish Migration Agency does not need to investigate the application: 1-5 months.

If your application doesn't need investigation, then it got faster for you.

Applications that requires investigation, still same waiting time.

I once had a work permit application (when changing employers) with waiting time of 13 months. After which I got 2 years of work permit starting from the day I applied. In 5 months time I applied for an extension (this was 2013-14) with the same conditions, the application was approved in 1 day.

So it really depends.

Posted by: HiSweden 29.May.2017, 08:19 PM

The Swedish Migration Agency has to investigate the application: 18-19 months.

Posted by: good_luck_1 1.Jun.2017, 01:29 PM

Interesting info that I got today from MV.
Apparently they send back the passports to certain people shortly after the application. So those people will not be requested that passport back when they make a decision.
Then also if you wait more than 5 months and get no decision, then it means your application needs further investigation and that will take at least 16 months. blink.gif
That is the reply from someone who works there, so must be true smile.gif

Posted by: santacroce 1.Jun.2017, 03:35 PM

When they say that it requires extra investigation, what does it exactly mean? Seems no one really is able to define it.

Posted by: good_luck_1 2.Jun.2017, 08:39 AM

Well they say that they need to get in contact with other authorities (whatever that supposed to mean). I do not understand that, why some people need this investigation, others don't, they should be able to explain that...

Posted by: HiSweden 8.Jun.2017, 06:54 PM

Shorter time for applications without the need for investigation

The Swedish Migration Agency does not need to investigate the application: 1-3 months.

Posted by: jenko 8.Jun.2017, 07:54 PM

Shorter time for children 1-3 there applications no need investigation and also for Nordic countries .Mhv answered me via phone

18-19 month for us ,

Posted by: mjennin2 8.Jun.2017, 07:57 PM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 1.Jun.2017, 01:29 PM) *
That is the reply from someone who works there, so must be true smile.gif

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not laugh.gif

Posted by: santacroce 9.Jun.2017, 09:25 AM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 8.Jun.2017, 06:54 PM) *
Shorter time for applications without the need for investigation

The Swedish Migration Agency does not need to investigate the application: 1-3 months.


the core question is: which is the criteria they use to decide that one application need "investigation" or not. Are there supporting documents one could send to make it easier for them; No one seems to have an answer for that. I asked MVH as well and they could not tell. It all seems so Blurry. (and I don't want to be sarcastic or get sarcastic answer - no troll zone here)

Posted by: raspberrypi 9.Jun.2017, 11:19 AM

Hi,

From my previous post where I mentioned few points which I think tell you that why somebody gets a decision in 2 weeks and why some in 16 months or even more.

What type of visa did you have before getting the PR?
When did you apply?:
When did you get your decision?:
Did you apply alone or with family?:
Did you apply after completing the required period of staying in Sweden or applied earlier?:
Did you stay abroad for more than 6 weeks while living permanently in Sweden?:
Did you stay abroad "often" for period shorter than 6 weeks while living permanently in Sweden?:
Did you have any kind of bad record in Sweden.

Posted by: good_luck_1 9.Jun.2017, 11:35 AM

QUOTE (raspberrypi @ 9.Jun.2017, 11:19 AM) *
When did you apply?:

Yeah, they possibly look at some of those questions, its just a speculation however.

By the way how does it matter when did I apply? You mean that some rules have changed or what?

And evern if I do answer in a right way to above mentioned questions and what? still waiting 4th month now. When I called to MV they said it clearly that if 5th month pass and I don't get a decision then prepare to wait at least 16 months. WTF? why such a difference ?

Anyway another girl who has applied same time as me and got her decision in less than 2 months.

Well, it seems like we will never know why some have to wait longer even though application is complete and all is crystal clear, and others - don't wait so long...

Posted by: kernal 9.Jun.2017, 01:32 PM

Date of application: March 2017
Time spent in Sweden: 1 year student + 4 years WP + 1 year PR
Date of decision: May 2017
Country of origin: Asia

One of my friend has almost similar application and he got decision in 3 days. I requested passport back after 4 weeks of applying and MV asked me passport back within few weeks time.

Posted by: davoodbio 10.Jun.2017, 02:25 PM

Regarding the PUT card, I sent an emailand I questioned this issue. They replied there is no need to send PUT card. Also, they emphsized that requesting passport back does not influence the waiting time.Once you received passport back, DO NOT send them again except they ask it to be send them again.

Now, I have a question. I have filled that form to ask MV to send me back my passport almost 8 days ago. I have not received it yet. I need it soon then I refilled that online form again to ask them send my passport back.
Now I am really stressful that shall I do something else!! Or Should I request by email?!!

I applied on 2017-05-12 and it is still on pending smile.gif

Posted by: kaysweet 10.Jun.2017, 05:06 PM

QUOTE (davoodbio @ 10.Jun.2017, 01:25 PM) *
Regarding the PUT card, I sent an emailand I questioned this issue. They replied there is no need to send PUT card. Also, they emphsized that requesting passport back does not influence the waiting time.Once you received passport back, DO NOT send them again except they ask it to be send them again.

Now, I have a question. I have filled that form to ask MV to send me back my passport almost 8 days ago. I have not received it yet. I need it soon then I refilled that online form again to ask them send my passport back.
Now I am really stressful that shall I do something else!! Or Should I request by email?!!

I applied on 2017-05-12 and it is still on pending smile.gif

The fastest way to get your passport requires you call the customer care representative to request for it. With that it should take less than 3 days there about to eeach you.

Posted by: davoodbio 11.Jun.2017, 12:03 PM

I cant speak Swedish. I am afraid that if I call and speak in English.It will influence my case by not being able to talk in Swedish

Posted by: kaysweet 11.Jun.2017, 02:29 PM

QUOTE (davoodbio @ 11.Jun.2017, 11:03 AM) *
I cant speak Swedish. I am afraid that if I call and speak in English.It will influence my case by not being able to talk in Swedish

Are you kidding me? Swedish isnt a a requirement towards citizenship and perhaps, there is an english option when you call..

Posted by: wondering_again 12.Jun.2017, 11:58 AM

What is actually quite clear is that many applied in the March - May 2017 period mostly had really quick approvals while those who applied in May 2016 are still waiting.

Really really silly... but looks like MV are making approvals faster for newer applications.

Posted by: good_luck_1 12.Jun.2017, 12:56 PM

The really huge difference is that if you have applied in 2017 then MV sends your pass back nearly directly and won't request it back. So basically they see it once and then they can make a decision without seeing a passport again, which is nice.

But I am doubtful about that waiting times has decreased...

Posted by: equalsignorecase 13.Jun.2017, 03:42 PM

I have a feeling that all EU nationals go through the investigation process, especially that they usually don't request a proof of right of residence when they first arrive in Sweden. Thus, as mentioned on the MV website, this evaluation is done when they apply for a Swedish citizenship.

Holders of work permits, on the other hand, may have a different situation because MV already has information about them and they have already been in touch with MV several times.

Based on the above, do you think we can say that work permit holders tend to go to fast track while EU national go to investigation track?

Posted by: HiSweden 19.Jun.2017, 10:31 AM

Still increasing!

The Swedish Migration Agency has to investigate the application: 18-20 months.

Posted by: kunskapi 19.Jun.2017, 05:28 PM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 19.Jun.2017, 11:31 AM) *
Still increasing!

The Swedish Migration Agency has to investigate the application: 18-20 months.


These waiting times does not really make any sense to me.
i am waiting for 17 monthes now.
i contected MV last week and they said no case officer is assiged to my case yet.
just wonder if these waiting times are true then how can a case officer will make a decesion within next 1 or 2 or 3 monthes while MV said that my case have to be investigated. and if they really make a decision ( after investigation ) then why there is waiting time for cases who have to be investigated is soo long ?

Posted by: Scottish 20.Jun.2017, 09:05 AM

QUOTE (kunskapi @ 19.Jun.2017, 06:28 PM) *
These waiting times does not really make any sense to me.
i am waiting for 17 monthes now.
i contected MV last week and they said no case officer is assiged to my case yet.
just wonder if these waiting times are true then how can a case officer will make a decesion within next 1 or 2 or 3 monthes while MV said that my case have to be investigated. and if they really make a decision ( after investigation ) then why there is waiting time for cases who have to be investigated is soo long ?


Well, if you happen to see my earliest post here while I was also waiting for citizenship like you then. The investigation usually don't take up to a week and at max two weeks if everything is in the clear. Immediately this is done, you will get a notification to send you passport in, if it's not with them and at decision is made almost same day they received your passport if not a few days after.

Generally, i think the long waiting time is required to deal with other cases submitted and complex cases before yours.

I am sure that you will realise this, when you finally get a case office assigned to your case.

Posted by: HiSweden 26.Jun.2017, 06:13 PM

QUOTE (kunskapi @ 19.Jun.2017, 04:28 PM) *
These waiting times does not really make any sense to me.
i am waiting for 17 monthes now.
i contected MV last week and they said no case officer is assiged to my case yet.
just wonder if these waiting times are true then how can a case officer will make a decesion within next 1 or 2 or 3 monthes while MV said that my case have to be investigated. and if they really make a decision ( after investigation ) then why there is waiting time for cases who have to be investigated is soo long ?


Have you been out of Sweden for more than 6 weeks?

Posted by: good_luck_1 27.Jun.2017, 10:12 AM

QUOTE (HiSweden @ 26.Jun.2017, 06:13 PM) *
Have you been out of Sweden for more than 6 weeks?


You mean 6 weeks in one year ofc.

Well, I have not been absent for more than 6 months in a year, employed for more than 3 years, have no unpaid bills and married to a swede for more than 4 years...

Anyone why am I in the longer waiting queue???

Posted by: Martian 27.Jun.2017, 11:36 AM

Is there anyone on this thread that traveled more than 6 weeks in a year and got a decision within 1 to 6 months? If not, my conclusion is that anyone who has traveled more than 6 weeks at any single time during the residency year is automatically placed on the longest queue, which is currently 18 to 20 months.

Posted by: kunskapi 27.Jun.2017, 06:05 PM

never been out of Sweden for more than 3 weeks in a year. only been out of Sweden for a week or soo.

Posted by: mora1 28.Jun.2017, 11:32 AM

I apologize if I am asking a little off topic question or if you think this has been discussed already on some other forums.

I have a question about hemvisttid. I applied for my first work permit on May 25, 2012 but decesion on my application was made on April 20, 2013. I received my permanent residence (after having work permits for 4 years) on May 27, 2017.

Now I want to apply for citizenship. From which date i need to count my hemvisttid? May 25, 2012 or April 20, 2013?

Do i need to wait one year after having my permanent residence permit or just need to have 5 years of hemvisttid in total to be eligible for applying citizenship?.

Posted by: good_luck_1 28.Jun.2017, 01:42 PM

From that day that you first came to Sweden, not even when your permit is issued...

Posted by: mora1 28.Jun.2017, 01:59 PM

Thank you 'good_luck_1',

I forgot to mention that i was already in Sweden at the time i applied for work permit. I had study permit between 2010 and 2012.

Posted by: good_luck_1 28.Jun.2017, 02:02 PM

QUOTE (mora1 @ 28.Jun.2017, 01:59 PM) *
Thank you 'good_luck_1',

I forgot to mention that i was already in Sweden at the time i applied for work permit. I had study permit between 2010 and 2012.


I had a similar situation, but study permit stupidely doesn't count at all(

Posted by: mora1 2.Jul.2017, 10:58 AM

QUOTE (good_luck_1 @ 28.Jun.2017, 02:02 PM) *
I had a similar situation, but study permit stupidely doesn't count at all(



Have you got your Swedish citizenship? How did you calculate hemvisttid in your situation?

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