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Posted by: Swegeddon 15.May.2020, 07:36 PM


Posted by: skogsbo 15.May.2020, 09:59 PM

Every time you post you change the amount of money you claim to have?

Posted by: Swegeddon 15.May.2020, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (skogsbo @ 15.May.2020, 09:59 PM) *
Every time you post you change the amount of money you claim to have?


Oh people can't earn money now???!!!

Posted by: skogsbo 16.May.2020, 06:19 AM

I'd recommend not moving. If you wish to run an online business but aren't able to do basic research online, then no amount of money will help you.

Of course for 500kr/hr I will assist you.

Posted by: ChocOwl 16.May.2020, 06:01 PM

QUOTE (skogsbo @ 16.May.2020, 07:19 AM) *
Of course for 500kr/hr I will assist you.

Can we start a bidding war? I will help the OP for 750 SEK/hour (+ 25% VAT).

Posted by: Essingen55 16.May.2020, 07:34 PM

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Can we start a bidding war? I will help the OP for 750 SEK/hour (+ 25% VAT).


Doesn't a bidding war usually involve the second person offering a lower price than the first rather than a higher laugh.gif

Posted by: skogsbo 16.May.2020, 08:07 PM

QUOTE (Essingen55 @ 16.May.2020, 07:34 PM) *
Doesn't a bidding war usually involve the second person offering a lower price than the first rather than a higher laugh.gif

I'll have to improve my offer. Buy 2hours, get one free at a bargain price of 1200kr/hr.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 16.May.2020, 08:11 PM


Posted by: ChocOwl 16.May.2020, 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Essingen55 @ 16.May.2020, 08:34 PM) *
Doesn't a bidding war usually involve the second person offering a lower price than the first rather than a higher laugh.gif

Darn it, I was hoping the OP wouldn't notice that

QUOTE (skogsbo @ 16.May.2020, 09:07 PM) *
I'll have to improve my offer. Buy 2hours, get one free at a bargain price of 1200kr/hr.

Is that including VAT?
In any case I can match this offer AND I will throw in a free key ring or shoe horn!

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 16.May.2020, 11:57 PM

Don't forget the complimentary shoe laces...

Posted by: skogsbo 17.May.2020, 06:37 AM

QUOTE (ChocOwl @ 16.May.2020, 11:17 PM) *
Is that including VAT?
In any case I can match this offer AND I will throw in a free key ring or shoe horn!

Moms is extra.

Did I forget to mention if the OP prebooks 6 hours of migration assistance, they'll receive a beautiful wooden butter knife and fridge magnet.

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 17.May.2020, 07:08 PM


Posted by: Essingen55 18.May.2020, 05:43 PM

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He will certainly have to pay tax on it when bringing it into Sweden.


There is no tax on bringing money into Sweden. He may well be asked the source of the money though.

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 18.May.2020, 06:47 PM

QUOTE (Essingen55 @ 18.May.2020, 06:43 PM) *
There is no tax on bringing money into Sweden. He may well be asked the source of the money though.


Cool, you can see into the future! What are the lottery numbers for March 2021 because nobody knows the rules for moving money after December 31st 2020.

Posted by: Anders 23.May.2020, 08:57 AM

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 18.May.2020, 07:47 PM) *
Cool, you can see into the future! What are the lottery numbers for March 2021 because nobody knows the rules for moving money after December 31st 2020.

Yes we can. The rules are the same as today until they are changed. Sweden won't change them that fast (https://www.government.se/49c837/contentassets/4490fe7afcb040b0822840fa460dd858/the-swedish-law-making-process) There is about zero politcial movement in this direction. Secondly, I would also assume that if there ever will be such tax, the decision will be made at least 6 months in advance.

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 23.May.2020, 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Anders @ 23.May.2020, 09:57 AM) *
Yes we can. The rules are the same as today until they are changed. Sweden won't change them that fast (https://www.government.se/49c837/contentassets/4490fe7afcb040b0822840fa460dd858/the-swedish-law-making-process) There is about zero politcial movement in this direction. Secondly, I would also assume that if there ever will be such tax, the decision will be made at least 6 months in advance.


Maybe you forget that the UK will be outside the customs zone from January 1st and it isn't a decision Sweden makes. It is the EU who makes the decision. EU law overrides Swedish law.

Fact is unless an agreement is made there will be restrictions from January 1st because we'll be under WTO rules with the UK.

Posted by: Anders 23.May.2020, 08:09 PM

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 23.May.2020, 08:44 PM) *
Maybe you forget that the UK will be outside the customs zone from January 1st and it isn't a decision Sweden makes. It is the EU who makes the decision.

Customs is about goods.

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 23.May.2020, 08:44 PM) *
EU law overrides Swedish law.

Then it will take even longer to change. Maybe to 2022 it they are really quick.


Posted by: TheExpatEagle 23.May.2020, 11:49 PM


Posted by: Gimp 24.May.2020, 12:29 AM

Customs is also border control.

Posted by: Anders 24.May.2020, 07:15 AM

QUOTE (TheExpatEagle @ 24.May.2020, 12:49 AM) *
Therefore when the transition period ends on December 31st Sweden's relationship with the UK will be the same as that it has with the US, Canada, China, Australia and so on.

Exactly! Which means no tax when bringing your money in.

Posted by: TheExpatEagle 24.May.2020, 07:00 PM

QUOTE (Anders @ 24.May.2020, 08:15 AM) *
Exactly! Which means no tax when bringing your money in.


Go and look up the law! I quoted the law in my previous message money brought in over the level I quoted WILL be liable for taxation according to EU law AND Swedish law as was in 1994.

I won't comment again unless you go and look up your facts. Either way I don't give a sh*t because it doesn't affect me.

Posted by: Anders 24.May.2020, 07:36 PM

I'm sorry but I don't see any law quotes in any your messages.

https://europa.eu/european-union/topics/taxation_en

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The EU does not have a direct role in collecting taxes or setting tax rates. The amount of tax each citizen pays is decided by their national government, along with how the collected taxes are spent.


Posted by: Grommet 26.May.2020, 10:43 AM

QUOTE (Anders @ 24.May.2020, 08:36 PM) *
I'm sorry but I don't see any law quotes in any your messages.

https://europa.eu/european-union/topics/taxation_en

Right, but that doesn't mean Sweden won't have a say, so your post makes a rather moot point. And what your quote shows is for "citizens", which surely have a different set of rules applied, than do foreigners (i.e. residents or mere visitors).

Please show where Sweden says it will not tax money from abroad. Oh, and please indicate what "kind" of money it is: income, inheritance, dividends, investment portfolio, whatever, since they surely say different things for different kinds of money.

I would be utterly shocked if Sweden did not have in place a free money grab mechanism, and I am guessing the "deductible" limit is probably very, very low.

And anyway, what you suggest would make Sweden some kind of "money haven", which is surely not the case.

Posted by: skogsbo 26.May.2020, 11:29 AM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 26.May.2020, 10:43 AM) *
Right, but that doesn't mean Sweden won't have a say, so your post makes a rather moot point. And what your quote shows is for "citizens", which surely have a different set of rules applied, than do foreigners (i.e. residents or mere visitors).

Please show where Sweden says it will not tax money from abroad. Oh, and please indicate what "kind" of money it is: income, inheritance, dividends, investment portfolio, whatever, since they surely say different things for different kinds of money.

I would be utterly shocked if Sweden did not have in place a free money grab mechanism, and I am guessing the "deductible" limit is probably very, very low.

And anyway, what you suggest would make Sweden some kind of "money haven", which is surely not the case.

Rules may change for the UK after Brexit. But at present there are no special secretive tax laws. What you have to prove is how you came about the money. Ie. It's not a proceed of crime, laundering etc. These are relatively new international rules, where countries have the power to seize assets if you can account for them.

Sweden's tax system is pretty simple, at least compared to the UK. No inheritance tax, 2nd home income is tax free upto 50k kr, property sale tax as income unless reinvested etc etc. That's Sweden's trick. Keep the tax system simple and try to tax income as near to the source as possible, leaving less ways to evade and avoid.

Whilst the return must be done in sweden. All the tax rules are available to download in many languages.

Posted by: Anders 26.May.2020, 12:02 PM

QUOTE (Grommet @ 26.May.2020, 11:43 AM) *
Please show where Sweden says it will not tax money from abroad.

Swedish law works the other way. It will tell you what you can't do and what you must do. So it is hard to find something official. It would be much easier for those that believes in a Swedish or EU law about tax on money movement into Sweden/EU to give us others a reference to it.

QUOTE (Grommet @ 26.May.2020, 11:43 AM) *
Oh, and please indicate what "kind" of money it is: income, inheritance, dividends, investment portfolio, whatever, since they surely say different things for different kinds of money.

From the OP I assumed this was wealth already taxed for in the source country.

Posted by: Essingen55 26.May.2020, 03:24 PM

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From the OP I assumed this was wealth already taxed for in the source country.


Exactly.

This is how the process works. When you bring in money to Sweden as a payment from abroad, if the amount exceeds SEK 150,000 your bank is obliged to inform the Riksbank. At the same time, it will send you a form asking you to give details about the transaction.

https://www4.skatteverket.se/rattsligvagledning/edition/2014.9/325742.html

Although the reporting is to the Central Bank, it is done for the tax authorities. If you move to Sweden and want to bring in CAPITAL that has already been taxed, that is absolutely fine. What you can't do though, is move here and then continue to bring INCOME and not declare it for taxation.

It is as simple as that.

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