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Posted by: the_dome 10.Jun.2018, 06:25 AM

Hello,

I was Wondering how come people that came illegally to Sweden have more rights than family members of Swedish nationals?

Posted by: Martian 10.Jun.2018, 06:18 PM

You need to elaborate more on your post before we really understand where you are driving at.

Posted by: wallace1837 10.Jun.2018, 06:27 PM

Because it is Sweden. They use backward thinking. Illegal immigrant receive amnesty if they didn't provide any paperwork.

Foreign workers are deported because of their employer mistake: https://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=88810

Foreign workers are stripped of their work benefits while they work in Sweden: https://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=86516?showtopic=86516

Posted by: nativeswedishengineer 10.Jun.2018, 06:43 PM

Because life isn't fair. Simple as that. Just as how you see a carwasher from Iraq beeing touted as an invaluable mechanic.

Posted by: wallace1837 10.Jun.2018, 09:06 PM

QUOTE (nativeswedishengineer @ 10.Jun.2018, 07:43 PM) *
Because life isn't fair. Simple as that. [...]

Because Swedes aren't fair.

Posted by: Svedallas 10.Jun.2018, 09:43 PM

QUOTE (wallace1837 @ 10.Jun.2018, 10:06 PM) *
Because Swedes aren't fair.


Your lack of intelligence, fair.

Keep posting hate, it is just amusing at this point.

Posted by: wallace1837 10.Jun.2018, 09:48 PM

QUOTE (Svedallas @ 10.Jun.2018, 10:43 PM) *
Your lack of intelligence, fair.

Keep posting hate, it is just amusing at this point.

Finally you are amused by the joke that Sweden is.

Posted by: Bsmith 10.Jun.2018, 10:10 PM

Currently there seems to be a world-wide phenomenon of backward thinking. It is shameful to be successful. It is wrong to work hard and support your family. All white people are racists and have exploited the poor minorities. European society obviously became prominent due to exploitation. Self sufficiency is selfish. Making good life choices is not as important as needing help. And so on...

Posted by: wallace1837 11.Jun.2018, 08:16 AM

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 10.Jun.2018, 11:10 PM) *
Currently there seems to be a world-wide phenomenon of backward thinking. It is shameful to be successful. It is wrong to work hard and support your family. All white people are racists and have exploited the poor minorities. European society obviously became prominent due to exploitation. Self sufficiency is selfish. Making good life choices is not as important as needing help. And so on...

Unsubstantiated relativism does not help the case of Sweden.

Posted by: Svedallas 11.Jun.2018, 08:33 AM

QUOTE (wallace1837 @ 10.Jun.2018, 10:48 PM) *
Finally you are amused by the joke that Sweden is.


I am not the one begging to be in Sweden. You are.

Posted by: wallace1837 11.Jun.2018, 08:36 AM

QUOTE (Svedallas @ 11.Jun.2018, 09:33 AM) *
I am not the one begging to be in Sweden. You are.

Another unsubstantiated claim.

Posted by: Bsmith 21.Jan.2019, 08:19 PM

An interesting piece about immigration that focuses on the US but has implications for Sweden as well: https://www.youtube.com/embed/LPjzfGChGlE

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 22.Jan.2019, 12:12 AM

Illegal immigration is...Liberally correct!!!

Posted by: Uncle Fred 22.Jan.2019, 01:28 AM

Good video. He finishes with "Lets help them there". This means the minority has to solve the problem, but who is going to start and how.
This helping them "there" has been going on for as long as I can remember. Problem is money goes either to terrorists or they sit there and let you feed them.
Great idea but never going to work. Sounds hard I know, but birth control is the only way (and this wont work in the Islamic world). Otherwise the world is only going to produce more under $2 hour people.

Posted by: Bsmith 22.Jan.2019, 12:20 PM

Birth control is important as well as education.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 22.Jan.2019, 01:13 PM

Birth is the weapon of population change, those that do not use it will be replaced!!!

Yes...it is that simple...

Posted by: Bsmith 22.Jan.2019, 04:20 PM

If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em.

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 22.Jan.2019, 04:24 PM

That too, but I was addressing the Western World!!!

Posted by: Gjeebes 22.Jan.2019, 05:17 PM

"Yes...it is that simple..."

Or, much more likely is that it is you who is simple and (willfully?) ignorant.

It comes as no surprise you think Trump is your Saviour.

Posted by: Bsmith 25.Jan.2019, 06:30 PM

Interesting, if true:

Reports of Rape Surged by 33% in Sweden Over Past Decade


The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Bra) recently released a report with some shocking statistics about violent crimes against women in the country. According to Bra, the country has seen a 33 percent increase in the number of reported rape cases in the last decade – and an 8 percent increase in rapes in the last year alone.

Even more shocking, rape reports alleging attacks against children rose even more in the last year; those crimes are up 13% in just the past 12 months alone. According to Bra researcher Stina Söderman:

“We have seen a clear increase in reported rape in recent years.”

The most recent figures reveal that almost 8,000 rapes were reported in Sweden last year alone, this number represents an increase of 614 rapes from the previous year. In 2018, rape reports against children of both genders (under the age of 18) rose to 3,420. Only adult men saw a decrease in the number of reported rapes in 2018.

Since 2008, the total rape report increase for the total population is 33 percent; that number climbs to 44 percent with cases that have adult women as victims.

According to SVT, Sweden’s public news network, immigrants commit about 85% of the rapes committed by strangers; the station came under fire for revealing these statistics. The network revealed that a review of 843 court cases in one district over a five year period found that 58% of the convicted rapists were not born in Sweden. When cases where the rapist and victim did not know one another were considered, the number of foreign born attackers rose to 80%. In addition, more than half of the attackers had lived in Sweden for less than a year before the attack.

Rape and violence against women were the most significant findings in 2018; the overall increase in crime was just two percent. Crimes against property actually declined, while violent crimes against citizens are on the rise.

Violence in the country continues to be an ongoing concern for citizens; record numbers of fatalities due to shootings were recorded in 2018. Crimes against women are the highest in decades, as seen by the increase in rape detailed above. According to Politico, crimes against citizens are becoming commonplace in the once safe and peaceful nation:

“Social unrest, with car torchings, attacks on first responders and even riots, is a recurring phenomenon,” Politico reported.

Politicians in the nation remain concerned about how the country is perceived. Sweden has welcomed more immigrants and refugees than any other nation in the European Union, according to Politico, and they are now faced with downplaying any additional violence that this entry policy has caused. Even a left-leaning publication like Politico acknowledges both the problem of violence and the connection to immigration and the failure to assimilate into the host culture. While the problem of violence is now widely known and accepted, few solutions are on the table, leading to an increasingly risky homeland for Sweden’s women and children.

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 26.Jan.2019, 11:37 AM

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 25.Jan.2019, 06:30 PM) *
Interesting, if true:

Reports of Rape Surged by 33% in Sweden Over Past Decade


The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Bra) recently released a report with some shocking statistics about violent crimes against women in the country. According to Bra, the country has seen a 33 percent increase in the number of reported rape cases in the last decade – and an 8 percent increase in rapes in the last year alone.

Even more shocking, rape reports alleging attacks against children rose even more in the last year; those crimes are up 13% in just the past 12 months alone. According to Bra researcher Stina Söderman:

“We have seen a clear increase in reported rape in recent years.”

The most recent figures reveal that almost 8,000 rapes were reported in Sweden last year alone, this number represents an increase of 614 rapes from the previous year. In 2018, rape reports against children of both genders (under the age of 18) rose to 3,420. Only adult men saw a decrease in the number of reported rapes in 2018.

Since 2008, the total rape report increase for the total population is 33 percent; that number climbs to 44 percent with cases that have adult women as victims.

According to SVT, Sweden’s public news network, immigrants commit about 85% of the rapes committed by strangers; the station came under fire for revealing these statistics. The network revealed that a review of 843 court cases in one district over a five year period found that 58% of the convicted rapists were not born in Sweden. When cases where the rapist and victim did not know one another were considered, the number of foreign born attackers rose to 80%. In addition, more than half of the attackers had lived in Sweden for less than a year before the attack.

Rape and violence against women were the most significant findings in 2018; the overall increase in crime was just two percent. Crimes against property actually declined, while violent crimes against citizens are on the rise.

Violence in the country continues to be an ongoing concern for citizens; record numbers of fatalities due to shootings were recorded in 2018. Crimes against women are the highest in decades, as seen by the increase in rape detailed above. According to Politico, crimes against citizens are becoming commonplace in the once safe and peaceful nation:

“Social unrest, with car torchings, attacks on first responders and even riots, is a recurring phenomenon,” Politico reported.

Politicians in the nation remain concerned about how the country is perceived. Sweden has welcomed more immigrants and refugees than any other nation in the European Union, according to Politico, and they are now faced with downplaying any additional violence that this entry policy has caused. Even a left-leaning publication like Politico acknowledges both the problem of violence and the connection to immigration and the failure to assimilate into the host culture. While the problem of violence is now widely known and accepted, few solutions are on the table, leading to an increasingly risky homeland for Sweden’s women and children.



Sweden recently just realized that non consensual sex is rape.

Posted by: Bsmith 26.Jan.2019, 02:34 PM

Sure, that's the reason. Facts and statistics get in the way of your narrative don't they?

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 26.Jan.2019, 03:29 PM

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 26.Jan.2019, 02:34 PM) *
Sure, that's the reason. Facts and statistics get in the way of your narrative don't they?



My narrative? You really like spouting those American conservatard “political phrases” don’t you.

Everyone lies but you right?

Don’t get your panties crusty... here are some other facts...


“When Sweden took in its highest number of asylum seekers in 2015, the number of reported rapes declined by 12%. At the height of the migration crisis, some 160,000 migrants arrived there - more per capita than any other EU country.

The steep rise in migration also raised questions about Sweden's ability to integrate immigrants. The centre-left Social Democrat-led government soon introduced restrictions and the number of arrivals fell dramatically.”

Oohhhh but wait let’s look at the amount of rape and pick out some stats that over represent immigrants.

80% of rape cases... not convictions, that’s important to remember, where the two people didn’t know each other, were committed.

Rape, like most crime, occurs between people who know each other. Use your little brain and realize that extrapolating a specific piece of data and equating it to “the situation” is what really drives your narrative.

Keep trying though. It’s fun to watch you idiots struggle

Posted by: Bsmith 26.Jan.2019, 10:32 PM

QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 26.Jan.2019, 03:29 PM) *
Rape, like most crime, occurs between people who know each other.




Maybe on your "dates", but in many cases of rape, the victim does not know the rapist.

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 26.Jan.2019, 10:46 PM

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 26.Jan.2019, 10:32 PM) *
Maybe on your "dates", but in many cases of rape, the victim does not know the rapist.


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https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 26.Jan.2019, 10:56 PM

"Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Shouldn't there be a period (.) at the end of this???

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 26.Jan.2019, 11:10 PM

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 26.Jan.2019, 10:56 PM) *
"Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Shouldn't there be a period (.) at the end of this???



Nope. It goes on into infinity.

Posted by: Bsmith 27.Jan.2019, 12:09 PM

As does your stupidity.

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 27.Jan.2019, 12:30 PM

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 27.Jan.2019, 12:09 PM) *
As does your stupidity.


Oh you are just sad that you were proven wrong. Wah wah

Posted by: john.boy 29.Jan.2019, 07:47 PM

QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 26.Jan.2019, 03:29 PM) *
“When Sweden took in its highest number of asylum seekers in 2015, the number of reported rapes declined by 12%.

The number of reported rapes decreased during 2014 to 2015, and increased significantly from 2015 through 2016 onwards.
QUOTE (Saywhatwhat @ 26.Jan.2019, 03:29 PM) *
Rape, like most crime, occurs between people who know each other. Use your little brain and realize that extrapolating a specific piece of data and equating it to “the situation” is what really drives your narrative.

Not in Sweden.
Only 24% of reported rapes did the victim know the attacker.

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 29.Jan.2019, 08:41 PM

QUOTE (john.boy @ 29.Jan.2019, 07:47 PM) *
The number of reported rapes decreased during 2014 to 2015, and increased significantly from 2015 through 2016 onwards.

Not in Sweden.
Only 24% of reported rapes did the victim know the attacker.



And they also expanded, and continued to do so til 2018 I know, the definition of rape. Most countries will tally one case of rape even if the perpetrator raped the same victim multiple times. In Sweden they tally each instance. For example, I’ve seen this before, if a woman says her husband has been raping her every other day for the entire year, Sweden will call that 182 charges of rape rather than one



Where did you get the other stat?


Edit..

Here’s another stupid doing from greasy Sweden... if someone reports rape it is added to the number of rapes per year even if proven not to be.

I also read that Sweden has had the highest number of rapes out of 35 European countries since 1996... but that has to do in part with what is mentioned above

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 29.Jan.2019, 11:16 PM

Wouldn't it be proper to mention ethnicity in all those reports???

I am totally sure it would prove that the new "Swedes" are innocent of all the hateful charges brought against them...

Yes???

Posted by: Saywhatwhat 29.Jan.2019, 11:38 PM

QUOTE (Gamla Hälsingebock @ 29.Jan.2019, 11:16 PM) *
Wouldn't it be proper to mention ethnicity in all those reports???

I am totally sure it would prove that the new "Swedes" are innocent of all the hateful charges brought against them...

Yes???


They had a report and found only a small majority is... not like it is reported by your posse. I would attribute this majority of reports or convictions to racist and xenophobic tendencies of some Swedes... hysteria of it... think metoo. And then those tendencies also create the exaggerated and cherry picked reporting you and your posse see as the truth.

But yes there are problems with newly arrived “refugees” or youth that are either on their own or just completely unsupervised and disciplined by parent. Mix that with a weak and cold society like Sweden and well...

Posted by: Gamla Hälsingebock 30.Jan.2019, 12:52 AM

"Posse"???

We talking...Wild West or..."the hood"

Neither of which is fitting for this discussion...

Where you cummin frum???

What would the statics be if the charges be changed to surprise copulation/assault with a friendly weapon???

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