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jostein
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QUOTE (mjennin2 @ 13.Mar.2015, 06:59 PM) *
How did this discussion topic get even one response, let alone 6 pages of it?

As one person said on the 5th page, this is 2015. We live in a world of multiculturalism; borders are becoming less and less relevant as everything all blends together. Expecting Stockholm to remain homogenous is like expecting Facebook to have never evolved from the beginnings of AIM chat rooms in the 90s.

Yes, there are new challenges - and there are also new benefits - but change is inevitable and you just have to roll with it, with grace and a willingness to constantly strive to do your part to improve upon the old. There has never been room on this planet for complacency.

[Insert Ghandi quote about embodying the change you want to see, or whatever].
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Jesus:
Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened for you

Gahndi:
We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do, only we believe that they would best serve these interests, which are as dear to us as to them, by advocating the purity of all races, and not one alone.

Smartass to mjennin2:
Be careful what you wish for biggrin.gif
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I am sorry. I can not explain what you do not wish to understand.
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QUOTE (lostinSE @ 13.Mar.2015, 04:10 PM) *
Please look at the following list and tell me to which group do you feel closest to and which of these group`s DNA smells and feels Swedish?


The Swedes' Y-chromosomal haplogroup frequencies are listed in Table 1 as follows:
DE: 1.3%
F* (xI,J,K): 4.4%
I1a: 35.6%
I1c: 1.9%
K* (xN,P): 0.6%
N3: 14.4%
P* (xQ,R): 4.4%
R1a1: 24.4%
R1b: 13.1%

You keep saying it`s all about feeling the DNA. Whose DNA do you feel here? Whichever way you look,you must kick a lot of inhabitants out of the country.

Evolution has given us the tendency to group together, mainly on genetic lines, for obvious reasons. This tendency is expressed as feelings and emotions and an inherent wish to belong. Now, my guess would be that we are more triggered by dialects, mannerisms, culture, customs and the like. But possibly even by more genetic traits such as facial features. I am unsure. And we do use mannerisms and customs to group together in many circumstances, like in supporterclubs, to foster teamspirit in a company, in political parties, adeherents to religions and the like. But it seems backwards to me to vilify the original basis for forming groups? The very form of grouping that gave rise to the instinct all the other groups use?

I like understanding the purpuse and mechanics of things. But as ive said numerous times in this thread, that is not the reason for my opinions. I start with the instinct. And then out of curiosity i theorice around why i would have that instinct.
Understanding the more itsy bitsy details of shared genetic material and the like has value for philosophy and religion to me. And just the joy of understanding stuff.

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QUOTE (Laurelia @ 13.Mar.2015, 11:56 AM) *
What if my children had children with your children? Or, even worse to you I suppose as we are white european at least, what if your children had children with partners from the middle east? And then your grandchildren did the same? They'd be the most 'related' to you, by blood but not in the way you seem to think bloodlines actually go.
Currently you seem to be saying that because your ancestors are what you consider 'Swedish' it's ok, but what if that changed and your actual relatives were no longer Swedish? Would you start to care about people from the Middle East?

I do not know how i would react. But people that marry outside their group will lessen the lojalty of the other members of that group since they share much less genetic material, the existence of that ex groupmember is less "usefull" to the other groupmembers, from a genetic perspective. I guess ideally it would be for me to choose, how much do i need the lojalty from my group? If all my other children would suffer and my family become paria, maybe i should disown that child? Whichever way, it would certainly be a difficult situation for me.
In the ME some cultures have the capacity to make the parents kill the children if they mate outside their group. I suspect this has evolved due to very hard competition between groups of people. And that the support of your group has been paramount to survival. And that groups really will have had to take risks on behalf of their members, for example starting a bloodfeud if one member of the group is slighted. (Slights can be probing to see if a group is strong or weak, if not met they end in taking over the fields of the other group, starving it down to fewer members and ultimately exterminating it)

Scandinavian cultures have not faced such harsh competition from other groups of people. I suspect the struggle against nature has been more important. However, our new next door neighbours are armed with ME cultures. So we have to change ourselves into something more effective. Or disapear.

Also, we define ourselves in contrast to others. If we had nothing else we would contrast ourselves to the neighbouring village. Build tales around it. And probably fight wars against it.

QUOTE (Laurelia @ 13.Mar.2015, 11:56 AM) *
Sorry to ask so many questions but I find your mindset both bizarre and intriguing. Personally I choose to align myself with people who aren't dickheads and the people I consider my closest 'relatives' are my Swedish in-laws regardless of genetics.

I probably do too to a large extent. But on a systemwide level the tendency among people will be what i describe. Antiracism and that enormous amounts of taxmoney that is spent on it is simply wrong, in my opinion. I think we have a right to be what we are. And to define ourselves as we choose. The state extorting my money and then coming back mandating me what to feel and think and whom i may associate with or rather whom i may not choose not to associate with is just not ok.
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QUOTE (Dr_Hardon @ 13.Mar.2015, 12:33 AM) *
As Woody Allen says we need the need the eggs and the cute Swedes are too Blonde and interrelated, trust me on this I studied the subject of race biology smile.gif

My ability to apreciate mr Allen and all his works is deficient.
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QUOTE (lostinSE @ 13.Mar.2015, 12:25 AM) *
It has nothing to do with loyalty ,they were just questions to see how people see this matter. I do understand your point of view - you see this matter as many brothers growing up in the same house and feeling related. Perhaps this reality explains the other feeling you otherwise can`t explain.
We have bureaucracy , feeling, as you pointed out and science. The debate is between feeling and science. Perhaps a proof that you belong in fact to the south african haplogroup instead of the west saharan would shake your mentality a little bit or not at all. I would respect your feelings even if they wouldnt match the DNA tests because in the end,you can`t like what you don`t like.

Well, if i was Matabele, i would feel lojalty to other Matabele. This is my exact argument. It would not shake my mentality in the least. If this surprising discovery was made it would shift my lojalties, possibly, if i was not too old and set in my ways to adapt to new information. It would not shift the reason for my lojalties. My argument would stll be sound.
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QUOTE (lostinSE @ 12.Mar.2015, 11:50 PM) *
If you had the ability to live for 1,000 years and see how Laurelia`s kids had kids and their kids had kids for 1,000 years in Sweden,would you see them as Swedes then ?

It takes two to tango. So it depends smile.gif And the name of the game is not "swedishness". The name of the game is how much genetic material we share. After all, we are discussing my lack of lojalty to people some of you feel i owe lojalty to because state beurocrats demand such lojalties? Or? Have i misunderstood our discussion?
My lojalty is to the genes that have formed a temporary alliance to form my very own self. They are but copies. So, we are all obliged to further the copying of the copies that have made us. That is what they do? Copy themselves? It is the meaning of our lives. They constructed survivalmachines to facilitate copying themselves? It is our purpuse? Why ask for more? Why not humbly accept what we truly are?
Or, rather, that is theorizing about why i feel what i feel. But it begins with the feeling.
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QUOTE (lostinSE @ 12.Mar.2015, 11:36 PM) *
Pretty related how ?
...

Well, i look pretty scandinavian. And my family history is mostly scandinavian. My Grandfathers father was an odalbonde in
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QUOTE (Laurelia @ 12.Mar.2015, 11:25 PM) *
What if everyone you're closely related to was a dickhead?

They are biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Laurelia @ 12.Mar.2015, 11:13 PM) *
Don't be silly. He's a purebred through and through rolleyes.gif

We all are made up of whatever genetic material we are made up of. We are 100% purebred all of us. I argue that it is logical that we feel lojalty to what we are. Whatever that happens to be. I also argue that we will have strong ethnocentric tendencies. And i opinionate that it is silly to try to avoid our instincts.
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QUOTE (lostinSE @ 12.Mar.2015, 11:05 PM) *
And if a haplogroup test shows that you are not part of the same haplogroup as the majorty of Swedes,will you still feel the same way?

Ideally, yes, at least theoretically. I do not know if i am that dynamic. Also, that shift would start to smell of ideology rather than instinct. And i do not like ideologies. I prefer instinct. So al the words here are rationalisations and explanations of how i feel, not the reason. I feel the way i feel due to instinct.

Besides, its all organic and continous rather than discrete and mechanical. Im pretty related to
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QUOTE (Laurelia @ 12.Mar.2015, 10:40 PM) *
So what makes someone accepted in your group? Would a long-time immigrant that had fully immersed themselves in Swedish life and culture still feel like an outsider to you?

I ask because I will spend 40+years living in Sweden - longer than I lived in my country, my children will have moved to Sweden at ages 7/11/15, their children will likely be born in Sweden but to an English parent etc. At what point would you stop caring where we were born?

Am a bit confused by " i am more repulsed by peple that can control what they feel and choose what lojalties they feel out of a desire to fit in" tbh, personally I don't dislike people because of where they came from because it's just geography - I dislike people based on their behaviour, I imagine many people are like this too rather than 'choosing loyalties to fit in'.


As i said, to me its genetics, the closer related i am to you the more solidarity i will tend to feel towards you. This used to be a non issue when i lived in the nationstate and when we were not swamped by foreigners. But since the nationstate was abolished it is growing ever more important to me. It seems to me i am not alone in this change in perspective, i see such tendencies in many people, even those that are terrified of being labeled racists.
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QUOTE (lostinSE @ 12.Mar.2015, 05:48 PM) *
Who should live in Sweden and who are considered Swedes?
Would you want to have a white dutch living in Sweden without a citizenship or an arab with a Swedish citizenship?
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Well, this is not quantifiable. A group consists of those that consider themselves part of that group. And are accepted by the other members of that group. And in some respects, are considered by third parteis as part of that group. The media use the word "Swede" to mean "Swedish citizen" or "resident in sweden". But traditionally it has meant an ethinicity, member of the people of the swedes. To argue that "swede" means "swedish citizenship" is to argue that state beurocrats have the right to define peoples identities and sense of self and sense of belonging. That the state decides who you have to feel solidarity with, as far as this groupidentity goes anyway. Now, this might have been somewhat reasonable in the nationstate, but even then it was heavyhanded and opressive. But sweden is no longer a nationstate. Now this mentality is outright totalitarian. And laughable.

To me, swedishness is genetic. When i read about people that lived here long ago i feel "we" with them. I feel kindered with them. Even thought they had a completely different culture. In fact, if we go back far enough their culture might have been more akin to the clan cultures of the ME rather than to my own culture. But still, i feel more kinship with them than i do with contemporary secular people from the ME with swedish citizenship. To me blood is always thicker than water. This is not about right or wrong, its just the way alot of people feel.

Now, i make a destinction between feeling that members of ones own group has a great value. Like, im more likely to give money to a swede begging than to a foreign begger. This is ethnocentricism, not racism. Real racism would be to for example beeing from the ME and valuaing for example swedish women over women of your own peple.(im not condemning that either, just trying to reason about the term). However, I do care about other peoples right to exist too. I feel bad when i hear of the Han chinese flooding Tibet. I feel concerned when i learn about the russian colonization of the baltic countries during soviet times. The Lithuanians for example have a very old and unique history. I feel something would be lost if the Lithuanians disapeared from the world. So, maybe that is real racism rather than ethnocentricism. But we feel what we feel. Actually, i am more repulsed by peple that can control what they feel and choose what lojalties they feel out of a desire to fit in, submit to the "antiracist" bullies or to gain material advantages. Than by racism. Who can trust those that can pick their feelings on demand, as it were?
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QUOTE (ben18616 @ 12.Mar.2015, 02:45 PM) *
Anyone who uses the term 'I am not a racist' is probably a racist.

Anyone who used the term 'pure' when referring to population control is most definitely a racist...

Define racist?
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QUOTE (mjennin2 @ 11.Mar.2015, 11:16 PM) *
Fair point; its all speculation. But I suppose it's just because of that unpredictability that one can more accurately assume things will not stay in one's favor for very long, no matter which side of the fence one is on.

I'm not wanting to put ALL my eggs into one basket; but if the basket is affordable right now and the eggs are cheaper than I have seen them in quite a while, I would like to buy at least a few to hedge my bets... and have a place to store those eggs so that they don't spoil with FX conversion rates later on!

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Yea, well, you american eggcollectors you, you cant be trusted you HOArdERS OF eggs!! wE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT, YES WE DO. yOU CANNOT FOOL US! no YOU CANT!
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No. You do not know they won't last. The global economy is crazy and absolutely unpredictable right now. What we do know is that Sweden has a very leftwing and totally incompetent leadership right now that has pledged to err on the side of killing the hen rather than collecting the eggs as it were. We also know that sweden has a huge real estate bubble and that the swedish gdp is to an unusually large percentage made up by banks and financial services. We do not know if this regime will try to print itself out of this situation but it seems like a real risk.

I do not know what will happen to the exchangerate in the future. The US and the dollar have risks and problems as well. That are more theoretical in nature rather than as hands on as the train-wreck that is sweden and her fictional economy. There IS merit not putting all your eggs in the same basket. But it is also good for you to know that you really dont know the future. And that you will tend to view sweden in to positive a light due to your emotions and that you have plenty of information about the problems of america but the problems of sweden will be less accessible to you. So, caution in all things.
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QUOTE (wolf111 @ 7.Mar.2015, 02:16 PM) *
Violence will come here too. Sweden is falling apart in the wake of this immigration. Then you will have to flee again. The Krimea seems like a safer place. that is not correct


as i see swwden need people ,tax payers,need new blood to move on,with the arival of the emigrants here i seen that its good for the country,new busines wil be intorduced and swedish people got more jobs than before, the camp i was in was going bankrupt ,now its blooming and we had 10 swedish staf wich were siting doing nothing, i see capitals wil move soon and busines men wil come invest, i am busines man but i cant do anythng without having my greencard first,i can bring many investros to the country invest in building houses and in farming and in all the good oportunities i found in sweden, well as i see you got more tatoo shops and massage places than a bakery lol anyway i love sweden and i lost crimea also,i russian mafia are there taking the land that the ukrianian govermnt had and splitting the profits ,i am arabic there is a huge racism now in ukrain, they kick each oither if you talking ukrianian in russian places and vise versa , we didnot come to have fun, we were forced out of our countries both me and my wife

You think we are whores that you can buy with your money? Well, people all over the world tend to dislike arabs. Not just in the Krimea. Why dont you go to some arab country? Why do you insist to go all across the world to the frozen north? Take your tales of woe elsewhere you charlatan.
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Violence will come here too. Sweden is falling apart in the wake of this immigration. Then you will have to flee again. The Krimea seems like a safer place.
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QUOTE (Svensksmith @ 28.Feb.2015, 09:39 PM) *
" I can respect them and dislike them at the same time."

That's exactly how I feel about coyotes. I admire their abilities to survive the harsh environment but that admiration stops when they steal my chickens.

Well, us swedes are about to become merely a shard of a people, driven out into the badlands of our former lands. We need to learn from the best if there is to be any swedes at all in the future.
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QUOTE (Rick Methven @ 28.Feb.2015, 12:00 PM) *
The beggars that have been an increasing plague in Sweden for the past few years are not Romanian or Bulgarians they are Roma. There are many thousands of true Romanians and Bulgarians who have emigrated to Western Europe with good skills that are working, paying taxes and making a contribution to the societies they live in.

The Roma or Gypsies are spread over Large areas of Eastern Europe, mainly in Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary. They hold a passport from the country in which they were born as a convenience. very few take any part in the civil life of the country they live in and owe allegiance to their elected king not the legal government of the country. They beg and steal anything that is not tied down and send the money back to their.village. No taxes are paid either in the west or back in Romania/Bulgaria. They are just parasites.

You are probably right in many ways Rick. However, their culture has also been severly damaged by communism and modernity. And in Romania not all gypsies are living like that, Romainian aquaintence of mine claims about half of them integrate into romanian society.

But there are things to value with gypsy culture as it is. For example, they are one of the last european cultures that have a surviving oral tradition. Probably curtesy of their high illiteracy rate but there is great value in oral tradition over written. For example, totalitarian religions written down long long ago are in need of the written word, an oral tradition can change with the times and incorporate new gods into their pantheons rather than eradicate the old culture and belifes completely. That was how christianity destroyed the ancient scandinavian religion. Also, an orall society has a law that cannot be more extensive than one person can remember. This means that all members of society can learn the law. Compare that to western society? Where not even the foremost experts can learn all the laws. I doubt the legal experts can even learn all the laws in their choozen specialisation. Isnt that wrong? We can all be put in prison if we break the law and ignorantia non excusat but at the same time not even the experts know more than a fraction of the law?

Also, the gypsy judicial system does not have a prisonsentence. They have fines and they have banishment (as i understand it). I think that is alot better than our system, there is something very wrong with forcing the taxpayers to pay for hiring people whose job it is to keep other people locked up. It bloats the state with all the opression that brings. And its just ugly.

Furthermore, gypsy culture might be parasitical now. But it was not always that way. They would absolutely not have been able to survive in pre 20th centuary rural Europe if they were not useful to others. Most likely they provided services that were not needed every week but were stilll in demand. And they brought news and were experts at selling horses. In sweden gypsies were also expert basketmakers, it was something they could weave on the road with materials they could take from the trees at the roadside. But then came modernity, now we have cars instead of horses, radio and tv and the internet instead of travelling gypsies and plastic instead of baskets. There is a great tragedy in that. It does not help the people that are bothered by gypsy culture today but i think its still worth to remember. Besides, the tragedy of modernity is something we in many respects all share. Much was lost when everything became rationalized, centralised and neat and standardized.

I mean, im sure they are a pain to live next to or when they swarm your village. But at least they do not have colonial ambitions which is what is important to me. And i can admire their ability to survive and maintain their culture. And im interested in how they do that and the knowledge they have that noone else has. Well, just can be a good idea to think a bit about these people. I can respect them and dislike them at the same time.
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@Gamla
It is the ME. It is normal there to execute prioners.When you think about it it is natural. If you take it upon yourself to take up arms against me and mine and you lose, your life has a negatve value to me? Besides, if you examine what took place in "panarab" prisons, it is shocking reading. That a man that has as his choosen profession burning people alive by dropping bombs on them is himself burnt alive is not shocking to me. And run-of-the-mill stuff in the ME is alot more henious, no matter the regime. It is a cruel region of the world.

Also, from people that look at western television, i notice that they have been subjected to warpropaganda against the ISIS. Someone or something is pushing their buttons. When i visit my normally kind and gentle old parents they bring up ISIS, hatered and condemnation in their eyes and voices. Some1 on the other side of the TV-set have been playing them. I think it is ugly. I think warpropaganda should be saved for war. But these days it seems normal to subject us to that ugly stuff in peacetime.

Cruelty and ruthlessness in war is the future. "Niceness" and such was a function of western media and western sentiments and of americas overwhelming power. And it was mostly a fiction for western audiences anyway.
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QUOTE (cherrybubble @ 19.Feb.2015, 10:58 PM) *
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We're all immigrants and we're here in Sweden and we're here to stay.
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Hehe, i seriously doubt that. When the destruction your ideology creates creeps a bit closer to you and yours you will scurry off back home. Just as ignorant and just as arrogant as before.
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QUOTE (cherrybubble @ 19.Feb.2015, 08:34 PM) *
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I know that my traditions and culture don't include damning everyone from one religion. I know my traditions and culture dictate tolerance and not "protecting" myself against people who don't mean me any harm. Thats the distinction I draw, those who are out to harm me/us(...REGARDLESS of religion...) and those that aren't.
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I have seen you siding with the enemies of western civilization in each and every thread you post. And you are filled with american arrogance and chauvenism and your onedimensional world view. And you apear completely and utterly ignorant of history.

Take your condemnations of racism for example. This is just american chauvenism. America is a state founded on the principle "out of many one". So, in that context, "racism" is bad. America is a state founded on an idea and an elegant constituion. Sweden however. Is not. The constitution of sweden is a hodgepod of compromices between special interests and beurocratic conveniences and a result of being close to a one party state for 40 years of SAP rule. Sweden has no founding idea, no great principle. It was simply the political organisation of the swedish people. Now this has been abolished. And sweden is nothing. What ignorant and arrogant people like you do not understand is that this means violence. On a massive scale. In your arrogance and chauvenism you demand that all places should be like america. That what is right in america should be right everywhere. Well, you people have won. And there will be hell to pay. Of course you will shrug your shoulders and take no responsibility whatsoever. You will say "if people had only listened to goodgoodydoublegoody me everything would have been dandy". But your ideas do not work. They are built upon "homo socialisticus" or "the new soviet man" or "insert nazi equivalent here" or whatever other utopian evil ideology have plauged humanity. But those people do not exist. Only us exist, as we are, unimprovable, no matter how many manipulations and shamings and coercion and thefts and lies you socialists use to try to warp us into shapes that please your insatiable lust for power. All you create is misery and destruction. Look at sweden? And compare it to what it was 30 years ago?
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jostein
Posted on: 19.Feb.2015, 08:33 PM





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QUOTE (intrepidfox @ 19.Feb.2015, 07:11 PM) *
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I really hope that SD get power next time. If that makes me a racist then i say thank you. Europe and especially Sweden are in a bad state


It is to late for SD. Those sort of policies might have been able to muddle trhough and hanker along ten or fifteen years ago, the danish way, as it were. Here, different things will happen. The SD idea is to try to preserve the old social democratic sweden, the wellfare state, the safe and secure and peaceful sweden. This is absolutely not possible from the situation today. Besides, it was exactly that sweden that created the situation today. Either truly draconian policies would have to be tried, and probably fail. Or the crazyness currently in charge will be left to run its course. Probably going through some version of a socialist dictatorship on its way to utter and total collapse.

In my opinion, sweden does no longer deserve to exist. Let the followers of the Frankfurt school burn it to the ground. A people that have sunken so deep into complacency and cowardice as us swedes have done need strong medicine to get better. And even if we dont, we can at least provide a cautionary tale for others to avoid.
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