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This site is a f**king joke!

Swedish news?

Gamla Hälsingebock
post 6.Aug.2016, 04:46 PM
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Joined: 21.Dec.2006

They must be rehabilitated!!!

Wash their minds clean and start anew...

The must learn to love TheLocal!!!
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Renfeh Hguh
post 6.Aug.2016, 07:05 PM
Post #77
Location: Not in Sweden
Joined: 1.May.2005

QUOTE (Hisingen @ 6.Aug.2016, 04:52 PM) *
Here come the threats - - but not a promise of improvement, that would be too much to expect.

Ohhh sh!t, not again...


If TheLocal respected it's readers and forum posters, who are the people who do all those clicks that TheLocal uses to bring in the paying customers, then they would listen to our complaints and make improvements.

I think if there was a survey of all TheLocal readers, I'm sure not many will have come to this place for the puff pieces and paid for content that Savage is so proud of. I found this place 10 or so years ago as I was curious to search for a Swedish news site in English. I can't remember if it was more news and less puff back then. Anyway, I'm sure I'm in the majority when it comes to why I'm here.

Even if Sweden is a bit of a sleepy little country with relatively little going on at times, there are certainly more things happening that could be of interest to expats living there and the Sweden curious. With more actual news on the page, the paid for content and puff pieces would be less in your face and there would be no need for a thread called "This site is a f**king joke!"
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Bsmith
post 6.Aug.2016, 10:51 PM
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Joined: 25.Jun.2009

There is a lot going on in Sweden that will affect the country and it citizens profoundly in the very near future.

But we can't talk about that, can we?
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Hisingen
post 7.Aug.2016, 02:00 PM
Post #79
Joined: 5.Jul.2012

Such things as and . But we don't dare mention them in print.

That is the way of the world. It is either illegal. immoral, or it makes you fat. Oh yes , and add to that - racist.
By the way, I left some space so that anyone who wishes can 'read between the lines'. rolleyes.gif
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Hisingen
post 8.Aug.2016, 11:31 PM
Post #80
Joined: 5.Jul.2012

And all seem bound up in politics on one side or the other. Even the once revered for its impartiality BBC has its nose in the political trough.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 9.Aug.2016, 02:26 AM
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Joined: 21.Dec.2006

The news media...everywhere...is no longer what it was...impartial!!!

And it seems that the Liberal interpretation of the news is on top...

Conservative news is poorly represented...

However neither side should should be espoused...

Just give us the facts without a slant!!!
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Savage
post 9.Aug.2016, 06:27 AM
Post #82
Joined: 11.Mar.2016

TL in a simplified manner is broken into 3 sections.

1. Sites.
TL operates in many countries across Europe in its capacity to pass over information. If you look at any of the other sites you will see that the type of reporting is based on the same business model. Although unfortunately, the Swedish site no longer allows for comments to be made on news stories.

2. Facebook / Twitter.
TL has seen a large expansion of how media is shared and exposed through its social media areas. This is an area where commenters are more responsible for their comments and often results in more Swedes taking an active interest in the news reported and interacting with immigrants.

3. This .SE forum.
There is no doubt that anonymous immigrant posters have helped bring down the comments section of the front news page. Unfortunately no matter what is done, these same troublesome posters need somewhere to spread their vile hatred. And this is why this forum itself continues to operate. And while social media accountability has helped keep the trolls at bay, it has also led to this part of the site to shrink and become an ever more toxic place.

Places like this forum only exsist because TL help pay towards its upkeep. But realize that the views shared on this particular extension do not represent the greater majority. If you desire something else, feel free to go somewhere else. But as history has clearly shown, some people just don't have the ability to practice what they preach. And this is a clear example of why this forum still exists.
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andy_fin
post 9.Aug.2016, 12:46 PM
Post #83
Joined: 20.Jan.2015

Faced with your problems i would integrate facebook authentication for the forums and remove the option of the antiquated username password combo.
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/facebook-login

There goes your anonymous "immigrant posters"

Any good reason why this would not be a good idea besides development costs?

I see the forum as one of your most valuable assets. It's a fantastic archive of questions and answers that you couldn't hope to replicate through blog / news posts.
Yes it has it's downsides but honestly i see it as TL's USP.
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Renfeh Hguh
post 9.Aug.2016, 02:27 PM
Post #84
Location: Not in Sweden
Joined: 1.May.2005

QUOTE (andy_fin @ 9.Aug.2016, 12:46 PM) *
Faced with your problems i would integrate facebook authentication for the forums and remove the option of the antiquated username password combo.https://developers.facebook.c ... (show full quote)

Unless the sites target audience are teens and the clueless early twenties, then TL will lose a lot of traffic to the forum. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, I will NEVER join any site where I must use Facebook as the login. I'd rather use Google's login because I don't have a presence there.

Do you want that Mark Fuckerberg to know what you do outside of FB as well?
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TheExpatEagle
post 23.Aug.2016, 10:35 AM
Post #85
Location: Skåne
Joined: 23.Aug.2016

QUOTE (andy_fin @ 9.Aug.2016, 01:46 PM) *
Faced with your problems i would integrate facebook authentication for the forums and remove the option of the antiquated username password combo.https://developers.facebook.c ... (show full quote)


Why force users to have a Facebook account? That makes no sense because a lot of people refuse to have a Facebook account so you would cut off a fair percentage of your customers.

As for 'there goes your anonymous "immigrant posters" why? At one point I had 5 Facebook accounts for different testing reasons. I also have multiple Twitter, Tumblr, etc. accounts. It proves or prevents nothing.

As for costs, it could cost nothing depending on the platform.

The fact is, as Savage has admitted, The Local exists to promote paid for content to show Sweden in a certain light. It also serves to be a cash cow to pay their employees wages.

Yes, the site is free, so what? My site is free and costs me 300kr a year. I can't imagine The Local costs anything to maintain, depending on the platform, it could be done by a monkey.

However, what I dislike is when Savage slags off newspapers such as the Daily Mail for printing articles that shows what is really going on in Sweden. He can slag of the Daily Mail a much as he likes but for running articles that tell the truth and shatters the false image isn't the right reason.

Why doesn't The Local just merge with and become the news arm of Sweden.se so everything is out in the open?
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Savage
post 13.Jan.2017, 01:38 PM
Post #86
Joined: 11.Mar.2016

So half a year ago, a certain group of people complained about The Local not covering real Swedish news.

In the past few weeks, we have started to cover "real Swedish" news in this forum.

- Usually the most popular stories in Sweden of the day
- From most of the most popular Swedish newspapers.

I wonder if the same posters who complained previously are now happy?

Or is the most popular Swedish news stories, from the most popular Swedish news sites now wrong as well laugh.gif
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intrepidfox
post 13.Jan.2017, 03:21 PM
Post #87
Location: Gothenburg
Joined: 18.Jul.2012

QUOTE (Savage @ 13.Jan.2017, 01:38 PM) *
So half a year ago, a certain group of people complained about The Local not covering real Swedish news.In the past few weeks, we have started to cover "real Swedish" ... (show full quote)


I like the news but what people complained about is that The Local on it´s Home & Facebook sides just publish garbage
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 13.Jan.2017, 03:41 PM
Post #88
Joined: 21.Dec.2006

"In the past few weeks, "we" have started to cover "real Swedish" news in this forum."

Please note the word "we" in the above sentence...

Are we facing an organization with an agenda???
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Savage
post 14.Jan.2017, 10:27 AM
Post #89
Joined: 11.Mar.2016

QUOTE (intrepidfox @ 13.Jan.2017, 03:21 PM) *
I like the news but what people complained about is that The Local on it´s Home & Facebook sides just publish garbage


I am afraid that those sections of The Local cannot be addressed at the moment.

But, mainstream Swedish news is finding its way onto the site slowly. With short translations for those who may not be confident in Swedish.

On the other hand, I have now found myself being accused of "Anti immigration" by a certain user for posting mainstream stories?

The same user also previously claimed such news was "fake news" laugh.gif - even though they are corroborated by all the top selling Swedish newspapers.

As you can see, it doesn't matter what changes or what doesn't.
The Local (or any other future publication) will always be dammed as long as anyone attempts to print Sweden's mainstream news in English. Unless it is state approved first and washed with glorious amounts of PR spin and positive state propaganda.

Maybe now people can start to understand just why The Local has worked in a way that it has. In terms of paid content, spin and state branding.
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Johno
post 14.Jan.2017, 03:22 PM
Post #90
Joined: 23.Jul.2008

Funny that I just the other day posted saying I had had it with this site.

But this thread has raised 2 things that really address the problem.

That while there are contributors on here who belong to the "I am never joining Facebook" head-in-the-sand group, this forum really will die. Too long to explain, those who don't get it never will.

And secondly while Savage has this weird idea notion that "real Swedish News is" the lowest of tabloid trash linked to Swedish newspaper sites, users will also depart and new users will be turned off. The headline posted is sensationalist, and from experience linking to any Swedish language source is a real turn off. So the threads really do fall on stony ground.

But both points will fall on deaf ears, but I have had my 5 pennyworth. Hej då!
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