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Anti-immigrat. Sweden Democrats overtake Moderates

as Sweden's second-largest party: poll

Peter1234
post 4.Jun.2017, 08:44 PM
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The local shows SD at no.2 with 18,4 % far behind the socialists at 31,1 %.

But is this true?

Yougov.se
Shows SD at 23,6 % currently at second position behind the socialists at 25,3 %.
Last month according to Yougov.se SD was at position 1 with 25,6 % in front of the socialists with 24,1 %
Therefore it seems to be a neck-and-neck race between SD and Socialists.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumul...tro_Maj2017.pdf

Either TheLocal or Yougov.se seems to manipulate the data.
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delta76
post 4.Jun.2017, 09:37 PM
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Not really. They might have different survey sets (the people being asked, the way being asked, etc.). It's been that way since forever, and different polls yield different results, nothing is strange here.
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Bsmith
post 14.Jun.2017, 03:14 PM
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Spam, spam, spam, spam...
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 14.Jun.2017, 06:40 PM
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In the "old days", the lunatics postings were...at least controversial and sometimes comedic...

Alas we have fallen on hard and barren times...Maybe the, now new "trio" will tire and go away...

Until then send, them to Coventry!!!
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intrepidfox
post 14.Jun.2017, 08:14 PM
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The 6 monthly SIFO results show that SD are the 2nd biggest party
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LLHope
post 14.Jun.2017, 09:24 PM
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OP, you open with the title "Anti-Immigrat." ... Could you point out what in their party manifesto is anti-immigration, or are you just trying to opinion build against the party?
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Peter1234
post 14.Jun.2017, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (LLHope @ 14.Jun.2017, 09:24 PM) *
OP, you open with the title "Anti-Immigrat." ... Could you point out what in their party manifesto is anti-immigration, or are you just trying to opinion build against the party?


The title refers to the headline in an article of thelocal.se and is a direct copy of this title - see:
https://www.thelocal.se/20170601/anti-immig...gest-party-poll

Are you saying that you believe TheLocal trys to build an opinion against the party? wink.gif
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Gjeebes
post 15.Jun.2017, 09:55 AM
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Perhaps Anti-immigrant is to SD as "Slow-learner" is to the now infamous coalition?

It's pretty wild that SD has been tagged as A-i (by global standards, they, like all other Swedish "parties" are but a storm in a tea cup), yet the "coalition" is oft identified with snazzy one-liners like "The Swedish model: continues to deliver"!
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Bsmith
post 15.Jun.2017, 10:54 AM
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How about sensible, controlled immigration with regard to the future of the country and its citizens...is there a label for that? Oh yeah, racism. Sorry, I forgot.
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Gjeebes
post 16.Jun.2017, 05:56 PM
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The morality police (no, not the Muslim one, the Swedish one, which is arguably worse since it does not limit its range to no-go zones only) shall be paying you a visit later on, as you have made the ultimate sin (and this twisted missionary-message "morally superior" country now surely has you in its sights).

This is Sweden, remember? We'll have no common sense hee-ah!

The Swedish model: yee-haw!
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Peter1234
post 17.Jun.2017, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 15.Jun.2017, 09:54 AM) *
How about sensible, controlled immigration with regard to the future of the country and its citizens...is there a label for that? Oh yeah, racism. Sorry, I forgot.


I say it load, I say it clear
Migrants are NOT welcome here!

Migrants who are just coming to Sweden for Asylum-Benefit-Optimization should be sent back and leave!
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Peter1234
post 17.Jun.2017, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (Peter1234 @ 17.Jun.2017, 09:00 PM) *
I say it loud, I say it clear. Migrants are NOT welcome here!. Migrants who are just coming to Sweden for Asylum-Benefit-Optimization should be sent back and leave!

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Bsmith
post 17.Jun.2017, 11:02 PM
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I have no problem with immigrants. I do have a problem with letting them in willy-nilly with no background checks or age confirmation or proof that they can support themselves.
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 17.Jun.2017, 11:15 PM
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What ever happened to sponsorship and proof of solvency???

Oooops!!!

I'm sorry that is not a Liberal ideal, the natives should be happy to support the indigent!!!
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Peter1234
post 18.Jun.2017, 08:01 AM
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I have a big problem with immigrants, which only come to Sweden for a better life and do not know how to behave civilized. And it is nearly without exception EVERYONE of the new "guests", who is coming for better life or at least because of "asylum-optimization" ("asylum a la carte").

And I have a serious problem with "guests", who do not behave and are criminal. The news are full of rapes, murders, explosions, terror... - when I invite guests to my home and they do not behave at all, then I threw them out. If it is a group and some do not behave, then the whole group has to leave.

And that is exactly what I expect from Swedish government to do! Threw them out!

But the criminal Swedish left-wing government is doing the complete opposite and build them houses, send ships to smuggle more of them from Libya to Italy, etc. This is unbelievable and a shame, and most of the Swedish citizens are watching this looming catastrophic disaster in their own country like a herd of brainless sheeps!

And then there are the refugees - the real ones (according to Geneva Convention): They should have protection, but it MUST be made clear to them from day 1 when they arrived, that the protection is temporary and that they have to return to their home-country once the danger for their lives at home is over. There should NEVER - EVER be a permanent residence issued directly to an asylum-seeker/asylant!

THIS is the meaning of the Geneva Convention and not integration, westernization, completely change their values and lives, which has the potential to create a HUGE problem and new conflict in their home countries, once they are sent back home to those!

If someone then wants to stay in Sweden longer then his need of protection, then this person has to apply for further (eventually permanent residency) separately and then must pass the normal immigration process, like any other 3rd party country citizen would have to do (e.g. an American, an Australian or a Brazilian).

And why Sweden is building thousands of houses to guests which stay a limited period?

Swedish herd of sheeps, who are paying all this nonsense with your tax money: WAKE UP!
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