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UK citizen moving to Swedish partner

Help?! Anyone? please :)

Arietis
post 5.Oct.2017, 10:22 PM
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Joined: 5.Oct.2017

Hello everyone,

I've been lurking for a while looking at different threads but decided to make my own to see if I can get some insight into my move.

I am a UK citizen hoping to move to my Swedish boyfriend early next year. He is in full time employment, has his own apartment for us to live in and has happily said he will support me for as long as needed until I can study/find work (Ideally find work as I don't want him to have to support us for long, but I know I need to improve my Swedish first!)

I am already learning Swedish online and practicing with my boyfriend when we chat over Skype and also when I visit I practice as much as I can with him (I am by no means any good yet, but know a lot of basic words and phrases, I want to enroll into a more in depth course once I move as I couldn't find any local Swedish classes in my home town to take before the move)

I have read on the Swedish migration website about applying for residence as a partner, but that section seems to be mainly for NON-EU members? For EU it seems to be you need to work, study or have enough money to support yourself? I have some savings, but not a lot.

The main concern I have, is that I have medical conditions, some of which require daily medication and regular checkups with specialists. I have read about not being able to register to live in Sweden without medical insurance but again, found some conflicting information about this so I really don't know what's needed and whats not.

Any help would be very appreciated! Thank you smile.gif
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bonviveur
post 8.Oct.2017, 04:26 PM
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Location: Värmland
Joined: 12.Oct.2015

your best bet would be to find a job and fix all the papers, easy enough, if you have a job of course
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mjennin2
post 9.Oct.2017, 08:38 AM
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Location: Västra Götaland
Joined: 8.Mar.2010

It's been a few years since I went through the immigration process but at least back in 2015, EU/EEA citizens had the option of coming in on a residence permit (same as non-EU citizens) instead of a residence card (that EU citizens qualify for, by properly exercising their right of residence); the plus side being that you don't need to have a job or study or have money to get a residence permit (given your partner meets the maintenance requirements, which it sounds like yours does), but the downside being that you'd need to immigrate on the terms of the residence permit queue, where the wait time is about 12-14 months still. The residence card takes a fraction of that time - but again, you'd need to exercise your right of residence via school, work, or sufficient funds.

I'm not sure that's still an option though; my knowledge on the subject is fading.

But doesn't your UK health insurance cover you in Sweden? Part of qualifying for a residence card was to prove you have comprehensive insurance already... no?
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BhuBhuKaZoo
post 9.Oct.2017, 08:57 AM
Post #4
Location: Uppsala
Joined: 29.Jun.2017

Hello,

You don't necessarily need a residence permit as the UK is still part of the EU. Therefore, when you register, it is about showing that you can support yourself. In this instance, it is best to just try and see where it takes you. I think the fact that you will be living with your Sambo will help. Having some form of work will 100% help even further.

But that is without taking into account the medical conditions. Fundamentally, your Healthcare is covered by the state (in your case the NHS) and when moving around Europe, the UK state will pick up any bills in relation to any health scares abroad (as part of the EU). Make sure you have your European Healthcare card when applying, you will need this (in the mean time). Now, for your health to be covered, I believe you will need insurance over and above as even though the healthcare system is relatively similar to the UK, it does have tighter restrictions - one of which (like the UK i should add) is that in order to qualify for state healthcare, you have to prove that you will be staying in that country for the foreseeable future.

The reason I suggest insurance is if you do have any issues without healthcare coverage (particularly when applying) - you can always claim the costs on your insurance.

I would seriously consider thinking about this particular aspect before moving. Migrationsverket should be able to help but I found getting these questions answered by the NHS (for my partner when we were thinking of moving to the UK - she has a couple of health conditions too) really tough. It might be good to track down a charity there (for your conditions/s) and asking them. They were the best bet for me.

One part from my experience with the UK was with my partner - I was told by a charity and confirmed by the NHS that if my partner moved, they couldn't guarantee coverage until after 3 years (which to them with mean permanent residency). Therefore, for her medicine, they recommend she go back to Sweden, collect it, then come back for the time until then. I don't know if Sweden would behave the same but I wouldn't be surprised - her medicine is extremely expensive so that was the reasoning.

I think what is most important about the healthcare coverage for you will be getting a person number and residence permit. That will give you access to the healthcare system - and hopefully without any issues with reference to your condition.

Good luck. I really wish I could help more.
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sanniz
post 9.Oct.2017, 03:37 PM
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Location: Borås
Joined: 10.Mar.2016

I want only to tell that there is no helth insurance that covers UK citizens moving to Sweden, not even private ones. That´s impossible cause all have some little thing they don´t cover. If you already have medical conditions I should guess it should be even harder.
Are you really sure NHS gonna pay this???
Best thing if you gonna have a swedish personal number is, GET A JOB!!! More or less fastest and mybe one of few alternative that can help you about your health.
Not sure a "sambo VISA" could give you all if they find out you got medical conditions too.
Skatteverket is very hard when it comes to that part. Not sure how hard Migrationsverket are.
But don´t count with that you gonna get anything for free and without a lot of red lines. That expressions came from my englishman. And we struggled over 8 months before he finally got a personal number. And only cause he then got a job. His private health insurrance from Cigna wasn´t accepted by Skatteverket.

And you can search for living with a partner even as an EU citizen. But it´s better getting a job. But we don´t know what happen in future when Brexit comes...
I should advice you to really ask NHS and get documentation that they really help you, else I think they didn´t get that you gonna move more permantly over to Sweden. Plus if they help you even if you gonna live here more permanent you gonna need that documentation as a proof to Skatteverket and mybe even for Migationsverket.
And even if you got job and personal number you still gonna have to fill in papers for dental care and EU card (if you wanna travel abroad in the future)at Försäkringskassan...

Good luck and learning swedish before is a great idea! smile.gif
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BhuBhuKaZoo
post 10.Oct.2017, 12:30 PM
Post #6
Location: Uppsala
Joined: 29.Jun.2017

QUOTE (sanniz @ 9.Oct.2017, 04:37 PM) *
I want only to tell that there is no helth insurance that covers UK citizens moving to Sweden, not even private ones. That´s impossible cause all have some little thing they ... (show full quote)



I must say - the first part - is categorically not true. I moved from the UK, and my health insurance was accepted. I didn't need it in the end for a personnummer (got it within 3 weeks of moving over).

And yes, as long as you have your European Health Card, you have access to healthcare across the EU. The NHS picks up the tab as you (in their mind) pay your taxes there - the NHS is still paid for by the taxpayer. Also, I assume that the OP gets their medicine through the NHS so why wouldn't they continue to grant it to them as long as they are a citizen?

I would however echo what you say Sannz about getting a role out here before coming out or getting your company to move you (if possible). This will 100% help you get everything set up much more easily. It really is important especially in your situation to have the safety and knowledge that everything is covered and having a personnummer opens up a number of avenues to you - particularly in healthcare.
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sanniz
post 10.Oct.2017, 04:48 PM
Post #7
Location: Borås
Joined: 10.Mar.2016

QUOTE (BhuBhuKaZoo @ 10.Oct.2017, 01:30 PM) *
I must say - the first part - is categorically not true. I moved from the UK, and my health insurance was accepted. I didn't need it in the end for a personnummer (got it ... (show full quote)


Then you must had something else to get that accepted. Cause I don´t known of anyone without job or sambo visa that could get personal number that fast. Or you were lucky cause they are much harder now on Skatteverket.
We tried 2 times with no, but the third time my man had job and then he finally got the number.
And I was even in contact with Solvit about this thing.
Reading other posts also show how hard it is to get a private one approved by Skatteverket. And then you still not have a cheap insurance. That insurance we have for him cost a lot every month and we are now waiting to see if he gonna get his dental things approved here too. Then we can cancel the insurance from Cigna and save a lot of money.
And mybe it depends where in the country you end up in. Here we got lots of asyl seeking immigrants... So mybe harder then even for EU citizens.
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Solith
post 12.Oct.2017, 09:04 PM
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Location: Uppsala
Joined: 9.Jul.2006

QUOTE (BhuBhuKaZoo @ 10.Oct.2017, 01:30 PM) *
And yes, as long as you have your European Health Card, you have access to healthcare across the EU. The NHS picks up the tab as you (in their mind) pay your taxes there - the ... (show full quote)


That's not true. As soon as you register as being resident in a country other than the UK, the UK no longer covers your healthcare. When I moved my company had to fix temporary private health insurance so I could register with migrationsverket and skatteverket, then as soon as I was in the Swedish system the company removed the private coverage. It's a nasty little loophole of the E111, that each country extends different benefits to its citizens.
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BhuBhuKaZoo
post 13.Oct.2017, 12:31 PM
Post #9
Location: Uppsala
Joined: 29.Jun.2017

QUOTE (Solith @ 12.Oct.2017, 10:04 PM) *
That's not true. As soon as you register as being resident in a country other than the UK, the UK no longer covers your healthcare. When I moved my company had to fix temp ... (show full quote)



Well it was true for me?

I disagreed with the assertion that it's not true as - if it worked for me, then how can it be not true? If it works for one person and not for another, it's just how the system sometimes is regulated.

This point is beyond what the OP is requesting help with.
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Cheeseroller
post 15.Oct.2017, 11:12 AM
Post #10
Location: Germany
Joined: 10.Apr.2007

The European Health Card only works for 2 years when you migrate to a new EU country. It is possible to extend this to 5 years, but the issuing country and the immigration country have to agree - and that decision is unlikely unless you will return to the issuing country after that period. It's intended for tourism and for workers sent to other countries on a temporary project.
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