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As Self-Important Sweden's Image Cracks

Löfven Emphasises "Image Management"

Gjeebes
post 17.May.2018, 05:33 PM
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Ah, poor Sweden. It's all coming apart and now Swedes in general are in a tizzy after realising that no amount of tax revenues paid will be enough to continue propping up and perpetuating its false image of perpetual glory for export to the world.

That's right Sweden, the cracks are showing, and the more you desperately try to fill them in, the more attention they receive. A perfect result.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/09/the-no...-policy-crisis/

1) Sweden is a restrictive society:

"“Sweden’s strong consensus culture has meant that the government’s narrative has been supported by the political opposition as well as by much of Swedish media and other sections of the establishment,” Neuding adds. The struggle over Sverigebilden has thus revealed its dark side. Anyone who attempts to highlight shortcomings of Swedish domestic policy is easily deemed unpatriotic and risks ending up ostracized. “Your name gets associated with ‘illegitimate opinions’ by polite society,” Neuding says."

2) "Sverigebilden", translates as “the image of Sweden":

"On the one hand, communication around Sverigebilden is part of Sweden’s so-called nation branding, which is directed at outsiders, including the tourists and investors who support the Swedish economy."

3) "On the other hand, it’s also about shaping the conversation and media reporting about Sweden at home. As negative images of Sweden spread abroad following the 2015 refugee crisis, and the apparent challenges the country was having integrating its new arrivals, the Swedish government made it a priority to engage in what Neuding refers to as “image management” aimed at foreign audiences."

I really must say, suffering life in Sweden really was unbearable, but after you leave, you just see it, more and more, for the ridiculous farce it really is.
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Saywhatwhat
post 17.May.2018, 09:21 PM
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Hejjjj!!! You figured it out!!!! Sweden is ridiculous!!!! Don't tell anyone or... Aww shoot. Is national hari Kari the next step. Of just Stefan lofven?

But how about that black guy on barnkanalen who occasionally pops up during a network advertisement eating a big juicy watermelon!!!

Nothing wrong with that in the super duper socially and worldly humanitarian politically correct consciousness of us all.
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Cheeseroller
post 29.May.2018, 02:26 PM
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Yesterdays FT:

Ulf Kristersson, leader of the opposition Moderate party, told the Financial Times that integrating the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have arrived in Sweden in recent years was a “really tricky thing”, and one of the main areas where his centre-right bloc would try to stand out from the governing centre-left coalition.

He said that changes needed to be made to the welfare system, such as limiting the total amount of benefit payments a household can receive, to encourage immigrants to enter the labour market.

“If we don’t change the level of welfare, how will immigrants enter the labour market? Sweden is a very equal country with a very high level of trust. That is being challenged,” he said in an interview ahead of September’s national elections. “If you don’t do anything at all you have a problem.”


Integrating the new arrivals into the labour market, as well as high-profile shootings in immigrant suburbs continue to colour the country’s politics with the anti-immigration Sweden Democrats, who are not allied with either bloc, set to become the big winners of this year’s election.

“We will not negotiate with them [Sweden Democrats], we are not going to co-govern with them. My belief is that the four Alliance [centre-right] parties should say we will take our responsibility and do the best we can out of a difficult situation,” Mr Kristersson said. But he called the situation “a new game in Swedish politics — nobody has the answer”.

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So his answer is to reduce welfare - which will probably increase crime. Nothing about changing the xenophobic attitude of Swedes or Swedish employers - of course, the failure to integrate is the immigrants and children of immigrants failure!

Good luck!
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Bsmith
post 29.May.2018, 02:35 PM
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I don't want to seem pessimistic but I think the problems will grow exponentially worse in the next decade. The idiot miss-leaders have led Sweden down a dark path all in the name of some grand, feel good, social engineering experiment.
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Gjeebes
post 30.May.2018, 03:47 AM
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"If we don’t change the level of welfare, how will immigrants enter the labour market?"

Swedish denial brought to you by Meatballia's ignorant/amateur politicians.

"Sweden is a very equal country with a very high level of trust."

Sure, on paper anyways. But I wonder how long the Swedes will keep telling themselves this in the face of all the evidence contrary to such virtuous notions?

Looks like they're going to need a "New Country" sequel video to appeal to its ilk once again, since the first one wasn't pushy and in-your-face enough.
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Svedallas
post 31.May.2018, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (Bsmith @ 29.May.2018, 03:35 PM) *
I don't want to seem pessimistic but I think the problems will grow exponentially worse in the next decade. The idiot miss-leaders have led Sweden down a dark path all in ... (show full quote)


The hole has been dug in too deep, this time.
Who will dig us out of this mess?!

Ulf? Jimmie?
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Bsmith
post 31.May.2018, 03:15 PM
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I suspect historians will look back upon this time as a pivotal time in Swedish history.

Or maybe not...too racist.
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nativeswedishengineer
post 31.May.2018, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (Cheeseroller @ 29.May.2018, 03:26 PM) *
So his answer is to reduce welfare - which will probably increase crime. Nothing about changing the xenophobic attitude of Swedes or Swedish employers - of course, the failure ... (show full quote)


Of course his plan is to reduce wellfare, he is simply bringing the plan of his predecessor Reinfeldt to fruition. Flood the Swedish wellfare system with the most ill-functioning people that can be found to starve the wellfare system into being privatized. And regarding the rascism of swedes, I once asked one new swede to keep his voice down in a public library, he threatened to beat me up for it.
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Cheeseroller
post 31.May.2018, 11:03 PM
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Meanwhile in Germany:

Germany is making progress towards integrating its large refugee population into the labour market, with new figures showing the group’s unemployment rate has fallen 10 percentage points over the past year, according to a study.

The report by the state-funded Institute for Employment Research (IAB) said refugee unemployment has dropped from 50.5 per cent to 40.5 per cent. One in four refugees is now officially registered as having a job, a significant improvement from the numbers one year ago. 

“We are on a good path,” said Herbert Brücker, a professor of economy at the Humboldt University and lead author of the IAB study. The study’s findings suggest that Germany is on track to put about half the refugee population that arrived three years ago into work by 2020, he added. 

The data offers encouragement to policymakers in Berlin, but also highlights the scale of the challenge facing Germany after the 2015/2016 refugee crisis. More than 1m migrants from war-torn Syria and other countries arrived in the space of two years, putting intense strain on Germany’s asylum system.

The influx sparked a political controversy and was widely viewed to have boosted support for the far-right Alternative for Germany ahead of elections in September.

Critics argued that the vast majority of refugees — few of whom spoke German — would be unable to support themselves and would live off state welfare for years. However, others pointed to the swelling refugee population as a possible solution to the country’s growing labour shortage problem. Germany’s unemployment rate currently stands at 5.1 per cent, the lowest since reunification in 1990. 

"Getting the refugee population into employment is one of the great social, economic and political challenges facing Germany today,” said Prof Brücker. “We know that integration into the labour market is the key to integrating migrants into society as a whole. This also has significant economic consequences, because it reduces the burden on the government budget." 

The IAB study examined the labour market performance of refugees from war zones and countries blighted by instability, including Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Eritrea, and drew comparisons with other migrant groups. It found that, despite the recent improvement, the refugee population is still far less likely than other foreigners to find work in Germany. The unemployment rate across the entire foreign population is 13.8 per cent. Among EU nationals, it is just 8.4 per cent. 

Language skills and relatively poor levels of education are widely seen as the main factors holding back jobseekers from Syria and other crisis-hit countries. About 80 per cent of adult refugees who came in 2015 arrived with neither an university education or vocational training, limiting the range of jobs that were available to them. 

About half of refugee workers are employed in auxiliary jobs, said Prof Brücker. The other half work in qualified labour positions, for example as car mechanics, cooks or factory workers. Only a small minority have found employment in high-skilled, university-graduate level positions. 

Germany’s traditional crafts and trades, which have long complained about labour shortages, have been particularly active recruiters of refugees from war zones. ZDH, the German confederation of skilled crafts, announced this week that the number of refugees doing a crafts apprenticeship had risen more than 140 per cent year-on-year. 

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Zero chance of industry in Sweden collaborating to integrate immigrants!
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Svedallas
post 1.Jun.2018, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE (Cheeseroller @ 1.Jun.2018, 12:03 AM) *
Meanwhile in Germany:Germany is making progress towards integrating its large refugee population into the labour market, with new figures showing the group’s unemployment ra ... (show full quote)


Nice post Cheeseroller! And I agree.

What these politicians do not understand is the process of integration.
It will take up to the second or third generation of the immigrants to integrate.
That is at least 30 years from now.

New immigrants will not integrate. And with all these political changes, and negative light, it will be even harder at least for the next 5 years.

The only immigrants that will be able to integrate, have good education and work experience, and will be at the same "level" to be able to integrate.

It is the same here. Integration just will not happen. They just want to make it sound good and politically correct. But in reality, it will not happen, but will cost billions of Euro on attempted projects.
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Gjeebes
post 1.Jun.2018, 01:48 PM
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I wonder how virtuous Swedes feel now? Where has all the "overwhelming" support for stupidity gone?

Was it really worth looking down your noses at everyone who, for completely obvious reasons, did not follow you down the rabbit hole, to hell?

Where is all the Swedish smugness now?

And more funny, is that once you grab hold of "political correctness", and exploit it for all it is "worth" (for lack of a better word) and use it as a weapon for manipulation, you end up in the, again, entirely predictable "text-book" case of "ignorance-leads-you-nowhere, from which, there is no going back, lest you really enjoy looking like an idiotic hypocrite, on the world stage.

Way to go Sweden! You are merely an exercise in futility!

Totally predictable result from the world's most retarded social experimenters.

There is unfortunately, no bowl of popcorn, no bottle of Fanta, big enough, to last for the entertainment that is on the way with Sweden's so-called "elections"...too entertaining, too long lasting...

The Swedish model: in stupid we trust.

Let's see how the next episode plays out, in the Nordic region's only "soap-opera" country...

Will Jimmie take the reins? Will Löfven jump from the bridge? Will Margot go for gender reassignment surgery? Will the existing "elite" self-combust in their own frothing toxic mix of pop-culture "political correctness" and outstanding achievement in the field of excellence?

Tune in next time...
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nativeswedishengineer
post 1.Jun.2018, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (Gjeebes @ 1.Jun.2018, 02:48 PM) *
I wonder how virtuous Swedes feel now? Where has all the "overwhelming" support for stupidity gone? Was it really worth looking down your noses at everyone who, fo ... (show full quote)


You need to get out of your lab more. It is obvious that the toxic fumes are getting to your mind.
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john.boy
post 1.Jun.2018, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (Cheeseroller @ 1.Jun.2018, 12:03 AM) *
Germany is making progress towards integrating its large refugee population into the labour market. Zero chance of industry in Sweden collaborating to integrate immigrants!

Let's put in the data that you didn't include, and then decide if Germany is succeeding or not?
Despite your attempt to criticize (blame) Swedish Industry.

In July 2016 Germany changed the law so asylum seekers must attend integration courses, otherwise they lose their benefits and right to stay in the country. Very different from Sweden who struggle to pass any relevant legislation.

They also introduced language skill courses, unfortunately the pass rate is less than 60%, and those that do pass are the ones that have an education and most likely to have found work anyway.

Germany introduced the so-called One-Euro Jobs initiative. Where tax money is used to subsidise employers so that employing immigrants is extremely cheap. The initiative costs approx 300 Million Euros per Year!!! so far only less than 5000 refugees were reported as employed in One-Euro jobs.

In January 2017, 129.000 refugees from the top 8 sending countries were officially employed, an increase of 45% from the year before (Hurrah!), however, 189.000 remained officially unemployed, an increase from the year before of 86% (Oh!, you probably only saw the employed rise in the media!)

Then there is the private initiative, where 300 Companies got together to create Network of Businesses Integrating Refugees who employed 2500 refugees, mainly in temporary contracts, internships, training programs. Those are many many years away from being paid fulltime salaries.

In 2015, Social welfare alone for asylum seekers cost 5.3 Billion Euros.
In 2016, Costs for asylum seekers was 21.7 Billion Euros.
In 2017, Costs were budgeted at 21.3 Billion Euros.

Let's not forget that in 2017 a survey showed that 42% of Germans believe refugees to be a threat to their culture.

Is the picture really that rosy in Germany?
Does Industry in Germany actually do more that Swedish Industry?
Or is that tax payers are still not fully aware of the consequences and cost of their immigration policies?
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Gamla Hälsingebock
post 1.Jun.2018, 11:16 PM
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From the tone of these last posts, it appears that Germany will become the role model for the replacement of European native populations...

There goes the neighborhood...LOL!!!

Eurabia becomes more real every day!!!
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Gjeebes
post 2.Jun.2018, 07:00 AM
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Actually, the way I see it, is that Sweden is coming to terms with the "terrifying" reality that there are "consequences" for "actions", which then can not simply splain away.

This is a very new thing in Sweden. Normally, pretty much anything is 1) "forgiven" followed by 2) "promotion". This way, Swedes can defy nature, and ensure "no-one-ever-feels-bad".

This new "consequences" thing eats at the very core of the "consensus" society, which in the majority of cases can spin things in its own glorious favour (image wise).

Swedes have lost control of the "fairy-tale" narrative they have been hiding behind, and now are faced with the harsh repercussions of their actions. This is a "new" phenomenon for them.

And after decades of complacency, paying their way out of this and that problem, they now start to realise, they will not simply be able to sweep this "monster" under the rug.

They are stuck with it. And that is the fact, which the Swedes, who've never had to deal with "consequences", are now coming to terms with.

They simply don't know what to do with the mess they have created for themselves. No where left to hide, and the picture facing them (i.e. a non-unicorn, non-rainbows one) is somehow incomprehensible to them (whilst obvious and predictable to pretty much anyone else).

Let's not forget the rhetoric of 2014, 2015; the early days of importing the "New Country" unemployment. This happened with HUGE public support. And anyone saying, "hold-on", or, "wait a minute, is this really a "wise" thing to do", was marginalised, and made out to be "racist", "bigoted" etc etc.

When the SD spouted discontent with decisions made at the time, they were racist. Yet when the current coalition starting "borrowing" SD ideas and implementing them for "damage control" and justification for serious u-turns in policy, they were "being responsible".

Yet they never acknowledged that what actually forced this hand, was their original "irresponsibility" of creating the mess to begin with.

And judging from comments here, it seems this little gem is just too jagged a little pill for the Meatballs, and their admirers, to swallow.
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